Trump's Response to COVID-19

You were probably the only person that watched them though

 

Lol at this guy, still hasn't learnt how to use quote tags

Vlad that is, not Balbus

 

Cov19 is losing its umph..

 

Lolz, individualistic Social Darwinism eh?


Three main points ( nothing to do with whatever the hell you think "individualistic Social Darwinism" is)

1. Early April, I was waiting for people around the world to get stir crazy with the lockdowns, dissent, rioting etc by now, early June

But that didn't happen, what did seem to bizarrely happen is that the world seemed to just collectively go past the limit of its attention span it was ever going to have for Covid 19. Most if not all countries are opening up now even though the threat hasn't gone away or diminished in some cases

2. One of the more alarming parts of the whole saga was just how quickly power of federal government's disintegrated and all the important decisions were made at the state / province / county, even local council level

So I don't know what the hell neo-liberalism has to do with any of this when the mayor of one rural town in some cases can tell his residents they can't go fishing by themselves as somehow mysteriously that will spread the virus whilst he/she is claiming to be backed by the "science" whilst never actually referring to any scientific studies

3. The science is there, there is just a bunch of stuff no one is ready to say out loud. 95% of the victims are going to be over 70, half of those under 70 are obese, most of the rest underlying conditions

If the virus ever had any chance of spreading through all the worlds populations equally, it would have already torn through India, Mexico, anywhere in Africa etc etc

You are always going to want to blame right wing federal governments in the US and UK for supposedly not acting fast enough, or not spending enough on healthcare, even though they have some of the best health systems in the world

It's very cold, and it's not very nice to say out loud, but I say, meh, all the regions in the world that did get hit just had too many old people, too many fat people living in close proximity...which is exactly what happened

People arent dumb, at least the 10% of our respective populations that are actually in charge of everything aren't dumb. Just because they are not prepared to say that kind of stuff out loud, doesn't mean they don't get it by now

 

Experts dispute reports that coronavirus is becoming less lethal

The consensus among other experts interviewed Monday is that the clinical findings in Italy likely do not reflect any change in the virus itself.

Zangrillo’s clinical observations are more likely a reflection of the fact that with the peak of the outbreak long past, there is less virus in circulation, and people may be less likely to be exposed to high doses of it.

 

VG

Again your argument seems all over the place, contradictory and comically lacking in knowledge or insight

You seem to mock Social Darwinism only to go on to support its ideas. Let the weak people in a society die even unnecessarily for the betterment of ‘the fittest’.

But the question is why, when and how. Have you looked at those questions?


What is the difference say between Germany and the UK or South Korea and the US? Many countries reacted differently and with differing results but are the policies been followed in the UK and US seem less about trying to save lives and more about the economy.

Well first there is no federal government in the UK which reveals a very large hole in your knowledge of UK government.


And second have the UK and US some of the best health systems in the world?


I think the NHS was once one of the best but after years of neoliberal defunding and privatisation I think the covid-19 emergency only revealed what many had been warning that it was a service in crisis.



As to the US it was always been top rate as long as you had the money to pay for it, its deficiencies for those that can’t have been well documented.


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But your main argument is the neoliberal Social Darwinist one that the weak should die that those disadvantaged by age, by ill health, by being poor, those that might need help or assistance; they should die for the betterment of the advantaged.

 

A quick definition from Wikipedia

Social Darwinism is any of various theories of society which emerged in the United Kingdom, North America, and Western Europe in the 1870s, claiming to apply biological concepts of natural selection and survival of the fittest to sociology and politics.[1][2] Social Darwinists argue that the strong should see their wealth and power increase while the weak should see their wealth and power decrease. Different social-Darwinist groups have differing views about which groups of people are considered to be the strong and which groups of people are considered to be the weak, and they also hold different opinions about the precise mechanisms that should be used to reward strength and punish weakness. Many such views stress competition between individuals in laissez-faire capitalism, while others were used in support of authoritarianism, eugenics, racism, imperialism, fascism, Nazism, and struggle between national or racial groups.[3][4][5]



You first need to clarify which version of social darwinism you are talking about, and what on earth "indivdualistic social darwinism" and "neoliberal social darwinism" is

But I fully expect the usual tactics of giving me a link to a book you havent read that says it explains it rather than just simply clarifying your position

 

Why is that missing a link?

Is Zangrillo no longer an expert now that other experts dont agree with him/her, or because she/he is saying what you dont want to hear?

 

VG

Well which version of social Darwinism do you think fits in best with your statements? You’ve supported free market views, nationalistic views, and that you think that the old and those with ill health should be allowed to die in this pandemic.

He is something from that great champion of Social Darwinism Herbert Spencer

It seems hard that a labourer incapacitated by sickness from competing with his stronger fellows should have to bear the resulting privations. It seems hard that widows and orphans should be left to struggle for life or death. Nevertheless, when regarded not separately, but in connection with the interests of universal humanity, these harsh fatalities are seen to be full of the highest beneficence…the same beneficence that brings to early graves the children of diseased parents, and singles out the low-spirited, the intemperate, and the debilitated as the victims of an epidemic. . .

Or pandemic you could add.

And LOL I take it from that that you haven’t read any of the books I’ve suggested. I can’t say it is surprising since you are still pushing the same arguments you’ve never been able to defend from criticism.

 

For all the radical right-wing Rump supporters who buy into the "strongest / fittest / smartest / richest / well-placed / youngest should be the ones to survive" theory ……………. how in God's name does that square with being a Christian, which most of them claim to be??? Bible-thumping, hands-in-the-air "believers" ……………. believers in what??? Where in any Scripture does Jesus teach, " Ignore the hungry, the sick, the poor, the widows & orphans, the homeless, the mentally unstable, the old & infirm, and those handicapped from birth ………….. they're going to die anyway. They don't add value to the economy, they only drain from it - so let them die off and free us to profit more quickly. A robust, prosperous economy is what the world needs …………… not wasting time on those who are defective, old, and no longer contributing to society."

Where does the radical right-wing Zeitgeist (thinking or feeling of the time - for those who don't know what Zeitgeist means) appear in the Bible??? "Me first and all others who are unprofitable / old / sick / useless - get out of my way" kind of thinking. Where does Jesus teach anything like that in Scripture????

Some things he DOES tell His disciples," …….. take care not to be deceived." - and - " ……… do not be deceived ….." - and - "Love one another, as I have loved you." - and additionally - "People will know you are my followers by how you love one another."

Boy …………. I don't know ………. "Love one another??? " Sounds kinda weak and liberal. I'm a "Christian" ……….. and I'm not into this group-hug, love stuff. Why should I love someone who isn't contributing to society and the economy. The economy is what really matters! (I'm being sarcastic - for those who can't distinguish).

But this is an illustration of how many claiming to be "Christian" are talking and acting.

 

Now look who's calling the kettle black......lol...

 

Agent Orange's latest treatment
Tear gas
Stand in front of White House
Get it for free

 

No, I have a big family who watched Biden. I also took time to watch that stupid guy with the Boris Yeltsin hair do.

 

Just like that, everyone forgot about COVID-19. Or at least it has taken a backseat to civil unrest.

 

I read something about 'no next bailout' in terms of relief checks.
I was hoping they would do another one...

 

Muck-mouth Moscow Mitch McConnell (REPUBLICAN Senate Majority leader) said no financial relief checks. You know muck-mouth Moscow Mitch ………………… the REPUBLICAN SENATOR who engineered the huge tax bill that gave hundreds of millions of dollars back to the very richest, top 1% or 2 %. After giving all those rich people a huge tax break ………………. Moscow Mitch tells the regular, average American people ……… Democrats and Republicans ……….. "No!! NO HELP FOR YOU !!! " (While fighting a global pandemic, and over 40 million Americans out of their jobs because of Trump's denial and delaying of action against the corona virus in the beginning).

How much more DAMAGE can the REPUBLICAN PARTY do to this country before people realize their policies are failing ?????? And that Rump is an idiot??? And that muck-mouth, Moscow Mitch is a hypocritical, corrupt puppet of the rich corporate interests???

 

I doubt they even extend unemployment benefits past July, either.

The fact that 99% of humanity has probably spent their stimulus money already is a tough pill to swallow as we come out of this COVID-19 lockdown.

 

Just for a few hours. I didn't forget. Unemployment has gone up by 43 million people during the last 11 weeks. Trump wants the economy opened up at the expense of more than 108000 American lives. Trump is such an evil and undesirable leader. I truly wish he does not get re-elected. His hair-do reminds me of Boris Yeltsin.

 

If they don't help the poor in the next 110 days, no Republican will get elected or re-elected to anything. I live in a red state and can see everyday how the locals are reacting to Mitch McConass and Donald Dumbshit.

 

The trump administration is using Covid 19 as an excuse to clear the streets of protests.