Would you like to know the benefits of being a Christian?

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  1. AFriend2005

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    What's in it for me? This is a common question in our modern world. I will try my best to explain the benefits of being a Christian. When I say "Christian" I do not mean it in the common watered down way, as just a form of religious practice, i.e. being Christian as opposed to being Buddhist. Here Christian means the same as it did nearly 2000 years ago in Antioch, Syria where the term was first used. Then it meant, "followers of Christ," the risen Savior, the Son of God, followers who have entered into a personal relationship with God through Jesus.

    Death

    When most people contemplate their death, they have difficulty visualizing what will happen. The grave seems like a black wall, an end of existence, or a great unknown. It is difficult to contemplate and makes one shudder at the possibilities. It seems impossible to accept the end, the finality of our existence.

    The benefits of being a Christian are numerous. As a Christian, a born again believer, I know what there is beyond the grave. The Bible tells us that "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him." This tells me that no matter how wonderful I picture eternity in heaven, it's even better. This gives me, as a Christian, a great peace, knowing that the future is better than the present.

    Life

    Have you ever wondered why people who seem to have everything, mess up their lives with artificial happiness, or commit suicide? I used to, until I realized that it is because their lives are empty. They have money, fame, looks, health, attractive companions, yet their lives are so empty that they turn to drugs, alcohol, illicit sex, and all other manner of worldly stimuli to find relief from the emptiness. Some, who find no fulfillment at all, take their own lives. Everybody who does not know Jesus as their Savior knows this emptiness to one degree or another. It is especially noticeable when one contemplates the meaning of their life. When a person understands that no matter how famous they are now, how loved by their family, how big their bank account, what they built, even how many children they have, a hundred years from now the mention of their name will bring a quizzical, "who?" as a response. Then, it is realized that fame, family, and fortune are all fleeting and life has no meaning beyond now.

    In Christ we have a fullness and a purpose in our lives. No matter how mundane our present life is now, there is still a heavenly purpose if we are walking close to Jesus. Galatians 5:22 tells us that, "the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. In Philippians 4:7 the Apostle Paul tells us that, "the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." We have an inner peace and joy that comes only from knowing Jesus as Lord of our lives. Its called a joy inexpressible in 1 Peter 1:8 and is given as a promise of our life in Him. "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy." (1 Peter 1:8) I can absolutely testify to this joy, it is true, words do not describe the joy I have in knowing Jesus in a personal way. It far exceeds any happiness I ever had from any outside sources.

    Views of Life

    The Evolutionist View: If one accepts the common evolutionary view of life, then life really doesn't have any meaning. We as humans are no more than the result of an indeterminable number of chemical accidents and reactions, nothing more. Our existence is strictly here and now, there are no later consequences for anything one does on this life. There is no right or wrong, these are just concepts that were thought up by some other human or humans. The only thing a person must do, is avoid getting caught, and paying for what society says is one shouldn't do.

    The Christian View: The world and everything and everybody in it are the creations of God. We have been put on this Earth for the purpose of serving and loving God. There are eternal standards of right and wrong, and we will bear the consequences of our choices in eternity. We can come to know Jesus in a personal manner and thereby secure our existence in heaven for eternity. We live in the peace, joy, and forgiveness that was purchased by Jesus on the cross.

    The Great Gamble: I hold the Christian view. If I am wrong, then I have lived a life of peace and joy. I have given some of my time and treasure to a church in the belief that I am serving God. These personal sacrifices only add to my joy. I don't miss the time or money spent in service to my God. When I approach death, it will be with an sense of anticipation for what lies ahead. When I die, I die without fear, because I have faith that I will be in the presence of the one I worshipped for eternity future. If I am wrong, I have lived in peace, died in ignorance, AND I WILL NEVER KNOW THAT I WAS WRONG.

    If I held the atheist view, I may be able to live in peace. I may help financially and physically with some charities, for the betterment of mankind. I will always know, that my life has no real meaning beyond today. No matter what I do, I will eventually just be forgotten history. The only way my existence has any meaning is in the genes that I pass on to my progeny. When I approach death, I will be approaching the end of all consciousness, but I may have fears and doubts because of religious people I have met, or religious material I may have read. When I close my eyes for the last time, that will be it. If I am wrong, I WILL KNOW FOR ALL ETERNITY THAT I WAS WRONG. I WILL REGRET FOR ALL ETERNITY NOT MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION.

    There is the great gamble, as a Christian, I am in a no lose situation. My beliefs and faith give me peace and joy that is inexpressible. If I am wrong, I don't care now, and I will never care later.
    The atheist non Christian is in a no win situation. He has no joy, because his life is, in reality, without meaning. He has no peace, because of the infinitesimal doubts that he may be wrong. In eternity he will forever have to pay the consequences of rejecting salvation through Jesus Christ.

    So my question to you is, do you know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

    Is that your "final answer?"

    Makes "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" seem inconsequential.

    You can become a Christian and share in all the benefits that come with it.

    This passage in the Bible says, "For ALL HAVE SINNED, and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23)

    Let's see if you have ever "sinned." We will do so by looking briefly at the Ten Commandments. Have you ever told a lie? If you have, then you are a liar. Have you ever stolen something (value is irrelevant)? Then you are a thief. Jesus said if you look with lust, you have committed adultery in your heart. If you hate, then you have committed murder in your heart. Have you loved God above all else? Have you made a 'god' to suit yourself (having your own beliefs about God)? Have you used God's name to curse, kept the Sabbath holy, honored your parents, or been greedy? Judge yourself--have you broken the Ten Commandments? Knowing that God has seen your thought-life, and every deed done in darkness, will you be innocent or guilty on Judgment Day? You know you will be guilty. So, will you end up in heaven or hell? Don't look to God's "goodness" to save you from hell. If God is good, He will punish murderers, rapists, thieves and liars. He is so righteous, He will punish all sin.

    The only thing you can do to be saved from His wrath, is to repent and put your faith in the Savior, Jesus Christ. When He died on the Cross, He took the punishment for our sins. He stepped into the Courtroom and paid the fine for us. Then He rose from the dead, defeating death.

    The Bible says, "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5 : 8 )

    This passage explains how to be saved, "For if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9)

    You can be saved right now and on your way to Heaven if you will open your heart to Jesus and pray the sinner's prayer out loud.

    Sinner's Prayer

    (Say out loud) "Jesus, I need You. I agree with You that I am a sinner. I believe You love me and want to save me. I believe that You bled and died on the cross to pay the penalty for my sins. I believe God raised You from the dead. I open the door of my life and receive You as my Savior and Lord. Thank You for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life."

    If you prayed the prayer and meant it, God heard you and has come into you. He has saved you and has given you a new life, because you've been born again and your name is written in the lamb's book of life. You are now a born again believer and a Christian son or daughter of God and you will spend eternity in heaven. Welcome to the family of God.

    Here are some websites with free online Christian videos.
    http://tbn.org/index.php/8/1.html
    http://media.christiananswers.net
    http://myfaith.com/Listen-watch.htm

    Here are some more Christian websites for you.
    http://www.christjesus.us
    http://www.biblehelp.org
    http://www.tbn.org
    http://www.ifcj.org
    http://www.iiw.org
    http://www.lwf.org
    http://www.jhm.org
    http://www.carm.org
    http://www.biblegateway.com
    http://www.blueletterbible.com

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  2. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    This is a very good post. However, I do not agree with a simple prayer leading to salvation. Born again believers must first be baptized and filled with the spirit before they can call themselves children of the Lord. I talk about that in the link on my signature.
     
  3. smlchance

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    i really liked your post. up until the part about "who wants to be a millionare" I HATED that show. and the tone of the whole thing changed. Jesus did save us tho! Except not for crap like that. Thanks anyway.
     
  4. Sebbi

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    ...and a Christian forum for you...
     
  5. tiki_god7

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    you don't have to be christian for those benefits to apply
     
  6. smlchance

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    after all, Jesus saved everyone, didn't he? Didn't His death and resurrection save all of creation??? Didn't you see The Passion?
     
  7. BlackBillBlake

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    Let's turn the question round a little and ask what's in it for the modern world?

    The answer may well be not very much. As long as people's minds are dimmed by the medieval superstition that only this particular religion is true, all we are likely to see is more conflict and war.

    But what seems to appeal to the ego's of many is that calling themselves christians induces a sense of moral superiority which they assume gives them the right to criricize everyone else, even other christians very often, if they happen to follow a different 'denomination'. And very often, this criticism is based wholly on ignorance of what is being criricized - this is esp. true where other religions are concerned. Too many christians are busy telling us all that they are false, but actually, they have very little knowledge of them.
     
  8. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    That's why God humiliated the catholic church by showing that they do not know everything.
     
  9. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    damn they brain washed you good there
     
  10. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    Quote "The atheist non Christian is in a no win situation. He has no joy, because his life is, in reality, without meaning. He has no peace, because of the infinitesimal doubts that he may be wrong. In eternity he will forever have to pay the consequences of rejecting salvation through Jesus Christ."

    ummmmmm...have you ever been an atheist non-christian...most of them are stuck in their beleifs and i acctaully respect that, unlike the few who g inotreligion for the "benifits"...

    i bet most athiests are quite happy cause they belieive they are right, as you do...and i doubt your coming back...so meh...have fun with your life buddy :)
     
  11. ChiefCowpie

    ChiefCowpie hugs and bugs

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    Benefit to being a christian:

    Tell the person who asks if you found Jesus that you did and you are spared a relentless badgering of biblical quotes.
     
  12. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Would you like to know the benefits of being a Christian?

    nope
     
  13. SunshineTheAngryHipi

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    benifits of christianity? whats the benifit to being wrong?
     
  14. TheStoon

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    I have no difficulty visualizing what will happen, i will cease to exist and my corpse will be eaten by worms or burnt... either way it won't matter to me because I will be dead. The end. No more. Nada.

    You know nothing..

    The bible also tells you that there was a great flood about 4000 years ago, but evidence suggests otherwise. The bible says that the bat is a bird - it is not. The bible says that rabbits chew the cud, they do not. Just a couple of examples of bullshit in the bible.

    So you believe in a coupla thousand year old book written by a number of people of questionable intent, translated by even more people with even more questionable intent which is already proven to be wrong on a number of basic facts, and you think you can give ME advice?? Think again...

    I'll give you some of this, religion can help troubled people out of difficult times, buts its a crutch, nothing more. One of the only benefits of religion I can see but hey ho...

    People don't screw up their lives due to a lack of belief, people screw up their lives because they are unlucky, or they get ill, or they are incompetent, or in some cases they are just dicks. Religion sometimes helps people recover, lack of religion doesn't send them downwards.

    Correct, life has no deeper spiritual meaning. Life continues in our offspring, and in the memories of the people we leave behind.

    I don't know about any other atheist, but i certainly would not want to die thinking that the memories people have of me were bad! I wouldn't want to be remembered as a murderer, or a rapist, or a thief, i want to be remembered as a decent, well thought of member of society, who contributed what he could.

    I think being an atheist inspires me to do MORE in this current life that if I was a theist who believed in an afterlife. Being aware that I will live on only in the actions I take in this lifetime inclines me to behave in a generally moral manner - trying where I can to make a good impression. If I was a christian I would have the crutch of forgiveness and the afterlife to fall back on if I cocked up.

    By the same logic as you use above it could quite easily be claimed that a christian will tend to rely on a belief in god and somewhat waste the life they are living, why not murder someone, just beg forgiveness for my sins and i'll still be ok. Whats the point trying too hard, as long as I believe in god i'm set for heaven.

    The problem I have with christianity is the lofty heights it raises humans to.

    We are exactly the same as any animal on earth, we have evolved a skill which allowed us to gain a niche, and our population grew from there, just the same as all other animals did!

    Unfortunately our skill has allowed us to make up gods and religion. One of which is christianity, which has a pretty screwed up view of right and wrong!

    If you can explain how the crusades were examples of peace, joy and forgiveness then i'll turn christian tomorrow....

    Explain this http://in.news.yahoo.com/050116/139/2j1rp.html in that context and I'll get up on a cross the day after that.

    Life would be so much easier if we had night vision and cool claws instead of human intelligence.

    TheStoon
     
  15. keowyn

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    Here's a suggestion...



    Every one who finds this personally offensive, lets all go into the christian forum and trash their religious beliefs. Betcha that would go over real swell. I mean really we are just trying to save their soles.

    LOL, whatever, I think we are better for not doing that, but the urge to spiteful is pretty strong sometimes.
     
  16. Sera Michele

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    I think the original poster must be a used car salesman turned christian =:p
     
  17. BlackBillBlake

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    Bet they didn't sell many cars!
     
  18. SilverClover14

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    My life has more meaning than most Christians because I do good for the sake of doing good, not to appease some nonexistant deity in order to gain his approval to go to a nonexistant place after death. ^_^
     
  19. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    War is hedge clippers trimming off non productive branches so the rest of the vine is healthier.
     
  20. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    *sigh* this is worse than christmas at my mom's house. bicker bicker bicker, bitch bitch bitch.
     
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