continued problems with salvia

I have tried salvia many times, each only getting mild effects. The first times i'd smoke between 3 and five tenths of a gram of regular leaf. I'd have a feeling of velvet on my skin and the urge to laugh. Recently I extracted some oaxican leaf into a 10x extract(rinsed in water, leaf extracted w/ acetone,evaporated onto leaf). I know my extraction worked because the leaf is much more potent. Now I smoke between 3 and five tenths of a gram and have similar effects just a little more intense. I've never had any visuals or much of anything besides the velvet feeling and laughing. I know i'm not smoking it wrong( I smoke out of a bong, clear the salvia in one hit, hold for a very generous 30 seconds after,keep the flame on it,and use either a torch or 3 lighters) I'm definatly a hardhead, but what the hell is up with this??? I read expirience reports and it seems like everyone is being blown away and i'm sitting there wondering what the fuck. Any response would be appreciated

Thanks

 

i got the same problem man i tried both leaves & 10x im going be trying 20x in a few days if i dont breakthrough im just gonna give up on it

 

Try getting some 20x, or try smoking more than half a gram. I've seen other people go through half a gram of 10x without breaking through; it's just part of being a hard-head. Also, are you POSITIVE that your 10x extraction worked? Perhaps you should buy an extract from a company that does it professionally; not to insult you or anything, but there are probably many things that can go wrong if you crudely extract it yourself, especially since extracts are widely available on the market, and are quite cheap.

 

Hikaru's advice is good, but I don't think it's necessary to keep using tons and tons of Salvia in order to achieve a break-through. The way it worked for me was just to try doing a small bowl of extract (you really don't need that much), and see if it works. If it doesn't, try it once more. Other than that I would just wait for another occasion to try it if it doesn't work the second time. Set and setting could be inhibiting your experience.

One you break through, though, pretty much ever time you do salvia you should be able to achieve the effects with just one hit from a small amount of extract. That's really all it takes once you're familiar with the effects. Even from a small amount of extract, the full-blown experience can be totally overwhelming. Just be careful, it can be horribly frightening if your set and setting isn't right (or it can just be scary anyway...).

 

Yes. Also, I know you're trying to achieve stronger effects; just keep in mind, the best solution is to probably take a few hours out of a day, and *slowly* work up to a higher dose. Most non-standardized extractions (I'm presuming that's what you did?) have varying levels of salvinorin-A content per pinch or so of leaves; you could end up accidentally dosing too high, and having an incredibly powerful experience. I mean, just move up the dose at your own discretion; I can't stress this though. =P

As well, good luck. I hope you manage to achieve the desired effects.

 

thank you for the responses, I'm 100% positive my extraction worked and it wasn't standardized,btw no insult taken , I'm not too sure about the set/setting, every time I was in a good mindset, but I've always done it in the same room. It's in my basement in a dimly lit room with white walls. I'm very familiar with the room, and it's where I usually do psychedelics. Do you think i'm too familiar with the room? I have never had any hallucinations besides some CEVs (i've done huge doses of LSA,mimosahuasca w/ 14 grams of mimosa,a lot of yopo,2 moderate doses of san pedro, about 28 grams of amanitas) thats what I can recall of the top of my head.. and still no visuals. I don't mean to have this seem disrespectful to these plant teachers, I hold them in high regard, but I haven't had good results. With all of those I started at a low dose and worked my way up to massive doses without any visuals. I extract plants as a hobby, so I know It wasn't the extractions or preparation of them. Any Ideas on what is up with this??? I know i'm a hardhead, but damn. I'll definatly try what you guys suggested. Thanks again for the responses.

 

put in a television
leave it on with the sound off
turn off the rest of the lights
relax
if you have a sitter you could have a candle

 

Yeah ... being in the right mood helps. Let us know if you manage to achieve the desired effects.

Also, I always enjoy ritual. Not because it's a "proper" or "respectful" way to smoke Salvia or do other things, but because rituals are fun! I have a little necklace I use, and I usually put it around my hands, and rub them together to make the necklace jump around my hands, and I'll usually sit in seiza and do Japanese-style bows to the plant, thanking it for what it's done for me, and asking for a good experience. =) I know that it will have absolutely no effect on what actually happens, but it usually puts me in a good mood, because it's ... well, fun. =P And that usually does facilitate a good trip. Sometimes, music helps too, but I'd recommend you play something with a very light bass, and then turn the bass all the way down. Bass can be bad, I know from experience. =P

Good luck!