as if you don’t partake in conversations or debates. I know 6 For a fact has changed his mind. Have you ever changed your mind? Don’t think so. That is another thing about socialism, the collective thought, they believe so strongly in it ... to the point where they become blind, unable to actually express themselves without regurgitating what they have been told. Too much faith in it and believing the lies of their socialist leader. the leader of the party will blame everything on the opposition and the socialist drones believe it. you can look at this thread, read back in it and clearly see it. Vlad blaming Boris and the right for what he calls house arrest by the right for covid19 Meagain believing and reading Newsweek as a source and calling the right liars when this isn’t true. Newsweek USA far left source and considered untrustworthy Newsweek - Media Bias/Fact Check. I offer up a less biased source and she says trump controls the DOJ and they are biased. I gave her a Reuter’s article. Wasn’t socialist biased enough, untrustworthy enough. So read back in the thread. When I countered, the names began to fly. Memes that made no sense, but for some reason it did to them, Name calling. They couldn’t believe what they were reading, like something ignited in their brains, popped, everything I was saying, from life experience and knowing first hand, being able to see the changes and the control the government took, the loss of free thought and speech. When we have been shamed by a government who promoted hate. Acting American like back in the 70s and 80s. This was/is considered bad, by many! Not I. Not others as well. Our voice is becoming stronger here, but I can tell you as well. We have been silenced! In socialism people who disagree with the government are put on a list. Thrown in jail for long periods of time without being allowed a lawyer or trial, or even a bail hearing. Under pure socialism in Ontario, see bob rae (NDP) look what happened with the laws he changed. Liberals here are socialists. They take over your thoughts and rights. Under socialism businesses are told who to hire. Businesses are told who not to hire. Rewards for hiring who they tell you to, punishment for not follow their dictate. Under socialism everyone is poor, except those who follow what they dictate are less poor, thrown some apples perhaps, the government is Rich. Favouritism is given by the government, those are the ones who get to prosper in socialism. While the rest struggle, As I said earlier, you see it in real life and see it in on forums. It is like watching people self explode . They start calling someone names, getting angry. They just can’t stand it when evidence is presented to them that proves that what is happened or is happening, is not what they think. History is repeating itself and hope they wake up out of the trance, because it is not in a good way.
Every one of your posts almost immediately devolves into a general rant about people you dislike in which you assign motives and characteristics to a straw man and then even fail in your arguments against your own construction.
not true, but I guess that is your argument, as I said previously, I don’t dislike anyone here. Very true. Straw man, nope, a straw man sells guns in a shady manner. They are definitely not like that. Maybe you can explain why someone blames the right for this virus? Why the right is blamed for Puerto Rico being in a state over a hurricane and their failed economy, even when the right isn’t responsible? That is just two examples, there is many more.
No, I said the Trump administration DOJ, as in the DOJ under the Trump administration, not run by Trump, run by his appointee William Barr. If you remember Trump fired Jeff Sessions becasue he recused himself from the Russian investigation as was proper as he was involved in the Trump election campaign. In response Trump said, "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I'm fucked."[138] This ended with Sessions "resigning" so that Trump could bring in his toady, Barr. Barr believes in the unitary executive theory, basically the President as president can do whatever he wants. Barr has been investigated for approving an illegal surveillance program without legal analysis.[53], he covered up Iraqgate ("Coverup-General Barr."[64]), supported the bogus Uranium One conspiracy theory, was found to be in contempt of Congress and was held in criminal contempt of Congress but the DOJ refused to prosecute (I wonder who lead the DOJ at that time), he misrepresented the Mueller report, disagreed with his own DOJ findings that there was no political bias against Trump in the Mueller investigation, claimed the investigation of Russian interference in our election was a setup by our own intelligent agencies On and on..I haven't even touch the surface of this clown's behavior. Trump and Barr are joined at the hip.
are you regurgitating someone else’s words without quotes? You have a lot of links there in the text and footnote numbers. Looks like a wiki copy and paste. Point made! Check
The only non original words in my post are linked by using "hyper text" (words in purple depending on your color settings) or are paraphrased and/or quoted and footnoted as such with little hyper texted numbers...like this [1] in purple, depending on your color settings. Or put in a quote block. That is called citing sources. Do you have any germane response other than pointing out I consulted Wikipedia? As in, do you dispute what I have posted and can you cite sources to back up your claims? You may Wikipedia if you wish. (I found the cartoon using a DuckDuckGo image search.)
two sentences are yours, the rest not. Got it. And this is what you call citing sources, did you check the source? Read it or just go with wiki as the truth? Yes I dispute your source material and don’t trust wiki, Anyone can go in and change it. Do you understand this? citing sources would be reading the source and writing things in your own words. You did not do this either, just copied and pasted, most likely without reading it over, scrutinizing it yourself, checking source material, etc. It is not your thoughts, it is someone else’s.
I'll have to get back to you after the next meeting of every leftist in the world. What the fuck are you talking about, "explain why someone blames the right for this virus?" You can find someone who believes in anything if you look hard enough. If I had to guess, I'd say that whoever you're talking about is blaming the right for the inability to properly respond to the pandemic due to years/decades of underfunding and eroding our social institutions (especially healthcare), not that they think that a right-winger is sitting in a lab somewhere creating a virus to unleash on the world.
yeah and I just have a really hard time believing you. If you had researched it yourself, you would have used your own words and not copied and pasted from wiki. See above? My words, have offered you references for people, events, etc... You simply rely on wiki and news week. Not trustworthy by any means.
yes the right is responsible for the isolation people are asked to do, for everyone’s safety. The state of Puerto Rico is also blamed on trump, there is many other things.
Ha. Don't believe me, duh, that's why I included references. So, did you check my citations or are you just going to comment on how I construct sentences?
What the fuck are you talking about? I swear that when you used to post here a couple years ago, you could at least string a coherent sentence together.
you still don’t get it. Wiki is not a reliable source. You did not read the sources cited, nor do you know what those sources read, duh. It isn’t your source, it is not your thoughts, it is not true. It is far left biased, I could go in now and make changes to it. Duh! Wiki is not reliable, When you have read all the source material and had a thought of your own, instead of regurgitating someone else’s biased analysis, get back to me. Until then you are simply a drone, who believes everything you read and are told.
Yeah. It is amazing how unreliable sources are that don't agree with your own world view. I'll check back with you after I personally interview Barr and all concerned and do in depth Phase I research at the Library of Congress. Meanwhile let me know if you do any of your own research.
Also, just to be clear - this is a strawman argument. You are constructing a fictional person to argue against. Straw man - Wikipedia a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.
You constructed a fictional person to argue against (in this case, a fictional person named 'someone'). If you're talking about a specific person, then just name them.
The thread calls out socialism at a time when America, and other countries, need big government intervention in the economic sector. I feel like there are valid arguments, namely the conflict of interest between it and a free-market approach, against having even a democratic-socialist government. But isn't that sort of what we have to begin with?