Socialism is like life in a pandemic

Discussion in 'Socialism' started by 6-eyed shaman, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I know homeless people down on Bandini Blvd in Vernon who make more sense that that one.
     
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  2. Beach Ball Lady Balls

    Beach Ball Lady Balls Banned

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    yes they did. It is why there was an apology and lots of money paid out to those who were targeted. The word patriot and tea party, amongst other words were heavily targeted and delayed, right wing was the target. You will say that the irs is separate right? No, not really. The IRS is overseen by The Department of the Treasury's Office of Inspector General aka OIG which is is headed by an Inspector General (appointed by Obama in this case). The Inspector General reports to the Secretary of the Treasury(Obama appointed) through the Deputy Secretary (Obama appointed), provides the Secretary with independent and objective reviews of the department's operations. I would say this falls in the lap of socialist democrats who at the time was OBAMA, the top dog. Mighty shady.

    Who gave the executive order for this? Not trump! Not republicans that is for certain. Where is the objective review?

    if this was done by republicans I would be equally as outraged. Not sure why socialists aren’t or pretend it didn’t happen?
     
  3. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Jesus … I think that I'm gonna let a more senior member address these points.
     
  4. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    ok, I am not outraged really that socialists did this. Expected as much from socialists tbh. That was the dramatic part. I would be outraged if right wing did it though. I Will wait with you. :). I thought you were senior? What does it take to become a senior member? How long? Is it time based? Status? Etc...
     
  5. Flagme15

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    Jesus Christ!!
     
  6. everything bagel

    everything bagel Banned

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    Not even he can save you from... that
     
  7. Flagme15

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    There are certain people in this thread who rant incessantly. Reminds me of trump trying to write a twenty page speech. At the end of the day there are still twenty pages of blank paper.
     
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  8. scratcho

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    There are NO rights given to humans other than those granted by duly elected legislators who are supposed to be representative of their constituents. And they are given when common sense, empathy and care for the well being of the citizens , takes precedence over the destructive "rights"given themselves by kings , dictators, religious despots,and that have shown to be inimical to those they wish to harm , usually by murder, torture, banishment , imprisonment or other nefarious methods. Proof? What was the state of human rights a billion years ago? And one might ask: what was the state of religion a billion years ago? The answers are rather obvious. The conditions with which humankind has been forced to live on this earth ,could have been and could be, anything humans of good will would institute, for the benefit of all sentient beings. Sadly-----we have what we have--exactly that which those whose grasp for power, money and control have allowed this beautiful planet to become a miasma of suffering, for the most part. What's next?
     
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  9. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Imagine having such a fascistic worldview, to believe that the only rights you have as an individual are granted to you by a higher power such as a governing force.

    If rights are gifts from the state, then the state can LEGALLY deprive you of these rights on a whim whenever they want.
     
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  10. Gul Dukat

    Gul Dukat Kanar, anyone?

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    No one thinks they are gifts, though. This is just wordplay you use for your strawman arguments.
     
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  11. Depending on the state, rights can be deprived on a whim.
     
  12. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    Oh man, the deeper you get into this thing, the longer and less coherent the rants get.
     
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  13. Gul Dukat

    Gul Dukat Kanar, anyone?

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    People gonna just keep sitting at their little computers telling us what we think. Such a joke.
     
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  14. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    He didn't understand my point at all. Which is par for the trump -suckers. They're just like their love, the chito. Fuckin'DUMB,
     
  15. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Yes?
     
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  17. Gul Dukat

    Gul Dukat Kanar, anyone?

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    My Lord!! But... but you are a sheep?
     
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  18. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    :laughing:
     
  19. Vladimir Illich

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    So are all the other neo liberal republicans !!!
     
  20. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    if rights are given to you, A gift, how can you be free? If it is a gift, then it can easily be taken away. This has been seen in history, by people like Hitler. If someone says free speech is your right, but then says, but you can’t say this, or you must speak like that, then you don’t have free speech. Communication and being Curbed.

    Free speech is not a gift, it is a natural thing that a government can not dictate on. Socialists want to curb that, it starts out small, little things, cutting off people natural voice, natural expression of thought. Remove their right to defend themselves in order to have more power, take away the power we each possess, everyone. It isn’t reserved for a collective thought or one way of thinking only, This is what hitler did. This is what Pierre Trudeau did and this is what Obama has brought about,

    Socialists like to shut up when it Doesn’t serves them, just ignore and not address it, sweep it under the rug As if it doesn’t exist. -looks up-

    Pierre Trudeau took away out right to free speech in Canada, when he tossed out our constitution. Freedom of speech no longer exists here, We use to have free speech, but not anymore. That is what socialism does.
     
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