Pro wrestling announcer fired after racist joke

Wrong it's one of the funniest movies ever made

 

The only scene i found funny was the baked beans fart scene - "you've had enough"

 

OK I think we've established you have no sense of humor

 

This one would offend today:


"Mongo straight"

 

Background on Mongo......

 

Billy Corgan compares 'social justice warriors' to the KKK

Smashing Pumpkins were actuly the first band I got really into. It was past their prime I guess at that point. Sad to see this. And I guess he does not see how silly this argument is. He says it was good to just let the KKK march when he was kid yet the story also states they were challenged in the same way he has an issue with now. Free speech means you call a Nazi a Nazi. If that upsets you then you are the issue.

Corgan owns the NWA and probably could have edited the "joke" and did not. So it's a company culture.

Corgan said he remembered growing up in “a liberal Democratically leaning Chicago that was about tolerance”, and not “shut it down because it’s unpleasant”, citing a 1978 Klan march in the heavily Jewish neighborhood of Skokie, Illinois, near where he grew up.

“We may not like it,” he said, “but it’s better to have an America where these idiots get to walk down the street and spout their hate.”

The march Corgan was probably referring to, which was actually planned by neo-Nazis, not Klansmen, initiated a protracted legal battle that went all the way to the state supreme court, but wasn’t much of a march at all. According to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, about 20 neo-Nazis appeared for about 10 minutes before being shouted down by counter-protesters and going home

 

It's not that people suffering from starvation is amusing, it's just that a lot of people enjoy 'faulty' humour, like making fun of something terrible or something very serious. You can crack a joke about anything and be funny if it is indeed ment to be funny. Sometimes the intent is primarily to offend, which the 'joker' and those who laugh about it find humorous. But in that instance they're laughing at the fact they have offended someone there, not because they heard or cracked a funny joke. A subtile difference

 

You do realize that these kinds of events are quite rare, a small miracle in a country with such a massive population. The klan is a joke, barely 8,000 of them in the whole US and then only in small, disorganized and disconnected groups (including some who only seem to be around cameras are in use). To see them as a national threat is laughable, they have no support from Americans. Even when the KKK was at their zenith, the majority of Americans wanted no part of them. Church shootings are very rare, regardless of the color of the people being shot (which appears to be just about everyone). Attacks on synagogues are far more common in Europe than the US.

What they see, is what's being shown to them by media outlets. The reality on the ground is far more boring. I live in Georgia, outside of Atlanta. We SHOULD have crosses burning every week and white robed freaks on every corner. Only, we don't. And this is considered the "deep" south. To be honest, it's not very deep at all. Things are rather simple around here. But outside of Georgia, the basic idea is that we are living like the characters from Mississippi Burning and Deliverance. Some are shocked to learn we have indoor plumbing, nuclear AND renewable energy (hydro, wind and solar).

It's all a matter of what plays better in the media. In the 80s they sold a lot of ad space by reporting on the exploding inner city gang problems brought about by the Crack epidemic. But that was later deemed insensitive to the people who lived in these turf war zones on the basis of economic and racial disadvantages. So, the media simply stopped reporting it for the most part. Drive-by shootings still happen, but you have to dig for the stories. Even then they give very general information and nearly never admit it was a gang issue. Crack is still a booming business as well.

It's important to avoid buying into some of these media perceptions. They sensationalize their product to score a buck, they are not in business to "serve" the rest of us.

 

It's all I have been hearing about since the 60s. Are you always so inclined to make rapid assessments on people from a few paragraphs? Or do you naturally assume that everything is a racial matter?

A racist term on its face. It makes thew sweeping assumption that a substantial number of white people think in the same manner and have no relevance as individuals. Why is this sort of racism acceptable to you?

Another broad statement that doesn't require a shred of proof, it's just accepted as an axiom because it has been repeated for so long. It's kind of a stupid assumption since it would mean that "whites" are never subjected to insults or derision because of their color or any other reason. As if they go through life with no insults, on a cloud of pure joy on the way to easy street.

I also come at this from a different perspective because I was a sailor in the late 70s. We didn't have time for racial shit on our ship. White or black and we caught plenty of it from the Hawaiians . Before that my own grandfather, who used to sell liquor as a distributor, drew the ire of the KKK back in the 60s, so I know a thing or two about the kinds of assholes they are. Their issue with him was that he was selling to black clubs. He didn't discriminate.

Racism as applied by Marx, will be with us for quite a while, like thousands of years to come. That's the whole point of his exercise. It creates a position for achieving political control and dominance. It trades oppression back and forth since there is no actual possibility at reconciliation. Which is why it's driven by so many marxists. So it comes down to what we're willing to tolerate and what we're willing to accept. One thing I kind of miss about living in Florida was the 3-way polarization of racists. Instead of being just black and white, there was a substantial and varietal Hispanic population, so the "hate" was spread into 3rds instead of halves. Here in Georgia it has been 50-50 for decades and it's obvious sometimes.

What's also obvious is that it flows both ways. Anyone can hate. And anyone can be irrational about who or why they hate. Suggesting that one "color" has more potential for hatred than another is ludicrous. However, there is something to be said about the effects of population balance/imbalance. The majority, regardless of color, generally becomes more and more discriminatory and oppressive. But it gets murky there because class plays a significant role in this as well.

 

Where does this actually occur? Seriously, there would have to be a legal framework to support this. Where in the laws of the US are there legalized discriminatory policies or procedures spelled out? I never seem to get a straight answer about this, so I don't expect one now.

The lectures on how "horrible" the US is, especially all the white people, are boring. I'm supposed to believe we're even worse off today than we were in the 60s. I'm just not buying it from you or anyone else. Bleat on if you must, but I'm not going to entertain this much.

 

Just chiming in about the announcer being fired. The joke wasn't that bad, it wasn't racist, and he shouldn't have been fired for it. I didn't hear about this story back when it happened, but I've come across a lot of race related issues/stories on facebook lately. IMHO, in most cases it's just over sensitivity, perhaps even reverse racism by some in the comments sections. I'd also guess that as much as 90% of those claiming it's racists are black, and about 99% on the other side are non black. Most of the debates boil down to race, as far as which side people take. I really feel like I go into the story with an open mind, but in most cases I just can't agree with the other side of the issue because they so often seem completely irrational and fueled not by a good argument but by their own history and prejudices instead. I'm a bit tired of seeing people get criticized, and even fired for things like this, where the accusers are always being given the benefit of the doubt first, and wrong doing is always assumed without being proven. And sorry to say it, but ditto for me-too.

 

I agree it's pretty retarded to deny there's a racism problem in the US, but... do you think the announcer in OP's happening was righteously fired? Wouldn't a dialogue or something have been better? I mean it could in this instance really have been primarily faulty humour.

 

It is a FEW white people in power, the rest are NOT in power at all. Most of the poor in the US are white people, in real numbers not percentages.

Also yes, I think the KKK is irrelevant. They don't actually DO anything. Unless you count dressing in costumes and posing for news crews. Or publishing misspelled, childish "literature" on the web. Otherwise, where are they?

 

I think it's good to keep a cautious eye out on a group like the kkk, but you're right, theyre really just not relevant at all. It's a very small amount of people doing all they can to make a little noise

 

A dumbass sits in the White House. That's all.

 

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Thanks for coming through..

 

I'd agree if they had financing, military vehicles, weapons, massive compounds and training grounds. But they don't. Only the media makes it seem like they're on every corner looking for someone to lynch. Most of them can't get the 89 Trans Am off blocks.

 

Hmm, I think I'd you read my post again you might feel like I'm actually agreeing with you, more or less. I mean, it wasn't like I was saying we should keep 24/7 fbi surveillance on each of their members lol. I just said we can just keep an eye on them, that's all. Despite not being all that active, they are still a hate group and that group does have quite a history.

 

Your still trying conflate isolated events and kooks with a coordinated movement that is simply not happening.

 

He won the democracy vote of the most powerful country in the world.
At the end of the day he can only be in office for 4, or 8 years max. So clearly not a dictatorship. Those in the know - know how to play the system, as with everything in life since the year dot.