The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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  2. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Big demand for soy milk in the blue states ;)
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    See, again

    What, too hard to type African Americans?
     
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  5. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I have two big items to report: (1) The Top Democrats are saying they are going to investigate Devin Nunez pursuant the reports from Lev Parnas and his lawyer.
    (2) Top Democrats now know that Trump has been raising money for Republican Senators WHO WOULD BE HIS JURORS.
     
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  6. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    And Sen. Linday Graham says he's opening an investigation of the Bidens. So we may be in for an infinite regression of investigations of investigators, investigating investigators, investigating investigators, etc.But ultimately who will investigate the investigator of the investigator of the investigator of the investigator, of the investigator, etc. God?
     
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  7. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    And some Top Democrats have become aware of Trump raising money for Republicans who will serve as his jurors.
     
  8. I’mtheonlynudistIknow

    I’mtheonlynudistIknow Members

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    So the American public has a 3rd grade education? And they’re stupid right? You just demonstrate the extreme bigotry that is the left and why I’m proud to stand against it.
     
  9. I’mtheonlynudistIknow

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    This reply is unintelligible.
    Are you suggesting that some people should not be permitted to vote?
    God help us indeed. The bigotry is stunning.
    No. It doesn’t ‘depend’.
     
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  10. egger

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    Giuliani returns to the public.

    He disappeared for a while after his dunderhead wrong number telephone call where he inadvertently gave away his shadow government activities.



    Giuliani attacks foes, claims again to have 'insurance' to stay in Trump's good graces
    By Phil McCausland
    Nov. 23, 2019, 4:32 PM EST / Updated Nov. 23, 2019, 6:54 PM EST

    Giuliani attacks foes, claims again to have 'insurance' to stay in Trump's good graces

    excerpt:

    "When asked whether he feared that his associates' criminal charges would extend to him, Giuliani became fiery.

    "You think I'm afraid?" Giuliani said. "You think I get afraid? I did the right thing. I represented my client in a very, very effective way. I was so effective that I discovered a pattern of corruption that the Washington press has been covering up for three or four years."

    The interview at times became contentious, particularly when Giuliani claimed he was being used as a scapegoat by the media and various political figures.

    "Damn it, the mafia couldn't kill me, your colleagues are not going to kill me!" Giuliani told Henry, referring to his time as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York in which he worked to indict members of New York City's organized crime families."
     
  11. egger

    egger Member

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    Giuliani used to prosecute mafia activity. Now he tries to defend it.
     
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  12. egger

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    Nunes, Giuliani, and Parnas were involved.

    Trump said Barr would be calling the Ukraine president.

    Attorney General Barr has been visiting various countries for Trump to try to dig up conspiracy theory dirt on Trump's domestic political rivals. Barr is supposed to be independent and neutral.

    And Trump complains about a Deep State.



    Devin Nunes was directly involved in the push for Biden Ukraine investigations, says Lev Parnas

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    "Parnas has said his efforts, as described in the Daily Beast article, bore fruit — and that Nunes eventually met with with disgraced former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin in Vienna in December 2018.

    Congressional records show that Nunes and members of his staff travelled to Europe in late November and early December 2018. The records do not specify whether he went to Vienna, however, or who he met with."

    “I can confirm that Victor Shokin told Lev Parnas that he had met with Nunes in Vienna in late 2018, and that [Nunes aide] Derek Harvey informed that they were investigating the activities of Joe and Hunter Biden related to Burisma,” Bondy told NBC News.


    "This meeting would suggest that efforts to discredit the Bidens were well underway before Giuliani began to publicly discuss them this spring, and that attempts to launch some sort of investigation into the Biden family went beyond executive branch officials."
     
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  13. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Its legal to fund the election of judges, while the supreme court has even allowed the lower courts to compel people to testify against themselves and has supported the right of cops to bust down any door they want in Arizona is they simply claim they smelled pot. Democrats need to stop relying upon the house of cards they call the law. Republicans are going for the brass ring and prepared to overthrow their own government, and democrats will either rise to the occasion or be flushed down the toilet. Fucking lawyers, that's all they are anymore, just fucking lawyers and crooks more interested in protecting their own asses than defending the mindless mob.

    Seriously, Donald Duck is a draft dodging wannabe used car salesman who is destroying our country, and is the last fucking person on earth that I would fight a war for, much less, the 80 fucking million Americans who insist he should be above the law.
     
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  14. egger

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    All in the family.

    The Trump administration has been trying to distance itself from Parnas. Trump said he didn't know him. Giuliani made it seem like the activities of Parnas had nothing to do with him or Trump.

    Parnas was a VIP guest at Trump's 2016 election night gala in Manhattan. A photo shows Parnas behind Trump.

    Add to the family list Fruman, Dowd, deGenova, Toensing, and Firtash, Barr, and Nunes.

    Parnas has now implicated Devin Nunes in Trump's conspiracy-hunting capers.



    It’s not just Giuliani: The intertwining team focused on Trump and Ukraine
    Philip Bump
    October 21, 2019

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...iani-intertwining-team-focused-trump-ukraine/

    excerpt:

    "In that letter, Dowd — himself once part of Trump’s legal team — established a specific relationship between Parnas, Fruman and Giuliani: Fruman and Parnas assisted Giuliani in his work for Trump while also enjoying his representation in their own business interests. The neat effect? They had attorney-client privilege with Giuliani and, potentially, with Trump. (Dowd recently stopped representing Fruman.)

    But Dowd also connected them to other attorneys: Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing, a husband-wife team who are Fox News regulars. The pair had been rumored as possible additions to Trump’s legal team earlier this year, but that never came to fruition. Parnas and Fruman, Dowd said, worked for diGenova and Toensing, too.

    That’s interesting in part because diGenova and Toensing also represent a Ukrainian oligarch named Dmitry Firtash. On Friday, Bloomberg reported that diGenova and Toensing were working with Firtash as he worked to fight extradition to the United States. Bloomberg’s report identified at least two useful connections in that regard: diGenova and Toensing’s relationship with Giuliani (and therefore Trump), and their son Brady Toensing, who now works for the Justice Department."
     
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  15. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Does this guy know anybody?
     
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  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Yes, some people should be restricted from voting.
    In the United States, the federal constitution did not define who is eligible to vote, that was left up to the states. A number of amendments changed some of that.
    For example residents of the District of Columbia could not vote for a president until 1961 with the 23rd Amendment.

    Currently those under eighteen are not allowed to vote, some states do not allow prisoners to vote, some states place a lifetime ban on anyone who has ever been imprisoned for a felony, some states do not allow the mentally incompetent to vote, and citizens and nationals who live in American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, or the United States Virgin Islands are not allowed to vote in national and presidential elections.

    So there are many people who can't vote and some justifiably.

    But that isn't what I was referring to.
    Your statement was:
    All I was saying is that I value some peoples' opinion more than others, certainly in the case of voting. I never said anything about restricting voting.
    If an eighteen year old crack addict that has never held a job and is incarcerated for a felony tells me who he or she is going to vote for, and an established university professor of political science or constitutional law offers their opinion, I tend to value their opinion over the crack addict's.

    Hope that clears it up for ya.
     
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  17. egger

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    Rudy now sounds like he's engaging in blackmail.

    He claims he has secret files of the Biden family from years ago that supposedly show criminal behavior and that it would be released if anything happens to him. It sounds like Giuliani is threatening to release damaging information about Biden if he is prosecuted.



    Giuliani Says Biden Documents to Be Released ‘If I Disappear’
    Ros Krasny, Bloomberg
    November 23, 2019

    Giuliani Says Biden Documents to Be Released ‘If I Disappear’
     
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    Rudy should also use blackmail on Trump by saying that he has secret incriminating files about Trump that would be released should Trump decide to throw him under the bus.

    Maybe that's what Rudy meant earlier when he said he had an insurance policy if Trump disposes of him.

    The way Rudy talks, it's difficult to make any sense of him.
     
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  19. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Rats don't have coherent thoughts, and Rudy's mind and brain are both long gone. There's nothing left except a bundle of bad habits and worse attitudes, which is why he gets along so well with our glorious leader.
     
  20. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    This sums it up so well. I like this passage the most since it fits into their whole "I'm not a racist they are all corupt anyway" argument.


    Opinion: I grew up in rural, small-town America — and I can tell you the real reason why people love Donald Trump

    So, when those rural Americans not coming up with ways to make their own problems worse, they’re looking for out-groups to blame. Like the minorities who live in those thriving urban centers, and have an increasingly equitable share of power in Washington, DC. Rural voters are far more likely to believe that black and Latinx people are abusing government assistance programs, for example. The racist resentment is vast, and a growing body of research has found that support for Trump is fueled almost entirely by hatred of out-groups: In 2016, the strongest predictors of Trump support were bigotry and lack of education.


    All of this is coded in political language, of course — which is why simply being female, or a person of color, is enough for voters to view a candidate as more left-of-center than their actual policy positions. To far too many, the word “liberal” has become a slur for anyone who doesn’t look like them.


    If you asked rural Americans how they felt about people of any particular minority group, most would pride themselves on having an unassuming, open-minded acceptance. And, for the most part, that is true on a personal level. But, to them, racism is a Klansman in a movie. It isn’t a contemporary power structure, or an implicit bias that gets black teenagers killed. They don’t see that. They can, on the other hand, see themselves struggling. They just very earnestly do not get it. The minorities they do know are — like that little girl in my third grade class — pressured to fit in, to stay quiet. They’re not talking much about racism
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    All of this is exacerbated by the fact that rural teens are stubbornly less likely to pursue higher education than their urban counterparts, even as the low- and middle-skill jobs in their areas disappear.




    So, Trump’s attitudes really aren’t any different from the actual feelings of many rural Americans. How can they condemn him for it? Even if they don’t agree, they can identify him with people they love, in spite of those attitudes. He is their father, their uncle, their boss — and his re-election slogan may just as well be, “I don’t see what’s so racist about that.”
     
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