how do i buy?

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by jeffersonairplane84, Feb 8, 2005.

  1. jeffersonairplane84

    jeffersonairplane84 Member

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    my mother is very open minded about this kinda stuff, exept lsd and the such. is this like lsd and if so, how do i order it without her? (i am 16, buy the way, so i dont see what the problem is) anyway, do they accept money through mail? help please. i would like to try this stuff before it becomes illegal. thanks!

    PEACE!
     
  2. oOflyeyesOo

    oOflyeyesOo Member

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    I doubt it will become illegal any time soon. Search google and you will find MANY results.
     
  3. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Salvia divinorum, while it is far from LSD, is similar to it in the fact that it is extremely psychoactive, extremely potent, and induces visions and a "trip"-like state if you consume enough of it. It's a common opinion among psychonauts that Salvia is as powerful as, if not more powerful, than LSD, because of the seeming realism of the experience, and the fact that on higher doses, one loses the ability to control their body, and may even lose consciousness or harm themselves.

    Traditionally, it has been only used in healing and spiritual rituals by the Mazatec Indians in Mexico. It is not illegal in the U.S., though there has been a bill in Congress for several years attempting to have it banned. But it hasn't happened, and probably won't for a while. For this reason, it is incredibly important to use Salvia divinorum RESPONSIBLY, and with great respect for the shepherdess that dwells within; otherwise, it could be abused like any other drug, though I personally wonder if the intensity of Salvia divinorum experiences would be too much to use recreationally, as there are a distinctly few number of people who really abuse Salvia divinorum in any way.

    If your mom is open to things "except LSD and such," I don't know that I'd consider Salvia divinorum to be in a very different category. It's quite powerful and quite mind-opening, though it hasn't gone through the abuse that LSD has (and as a result, isn't illegal in the U.S., though it is in several countries, including Australia). Both Salvia divinorum and LSD are chemically non-hazardous to the body; neither cause brain tumors or anything of the sort; if they did, there would be a lot of braindead hippies out there right now, but most of them are still extremely intelligent and wise. So unless it's because LSD is illegal, I don't understand why your mom would object.

    You're 16, but the majority of good, reputable Salvia divinorum sites only sell to adults. The ones that sell to minors are often low-quality shops or frauds. Nowadays, Salvia is even being sold as a legal "marijuana alternative," which is why it caught the eyes of the government; there just hasn't been a strong enough push to schedule it.

    If you want to order from a site that sells only to adults, then have a friend or someone other than your mother order it, and have it sent to their home, and then just give it to you. Otherwise, there really isn't a way, unless you go for a smaller site that would be questionable and probably unsafe to order from.

    The sites that I know do accept money in the mail, but as I said, they do not sell to minors. =( The ones that do, usually require credit cards (!!) or PayPal only. At least of what I've seen ... there may be some exceptions out there, of course. You'd have to look hard.

    'tis also not "becoming illegal." That's bullshit. If it ever does become illegal, then it'll be done overnight using the Emergency Scheduling Act and Analogue Acts, and it won't be because of some bill in Congress.

    Peace and good fortune.
     
  4. oOflyeyesOo

    oOflyeyesOo Member

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    Just dont tell them you are 16, shouldnt even of told us.
     
  5. Dazed4now

    Dazed4now Member

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    i used eGay to buy salvia 10x extract
    it may be the stuff
    it may not be the stuff
    but oh well im happy
     
  6. gnrm23

    gnrm23 Senior Member

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    many sites will accept money orders...
    most will have you click a discalimer asserting that you are 18 or over... (& you wouldn't want to lie, now, would you?)
    a gram of extract is often mailed to the customer in a regular letter envelope...
    if you look at some of the vendors over at www.gliderspen.net you could see which one suits your fancy...
    play safe, mmmkay?
     
  7. jeffersonairplane84

    jeffersonairplane84 Member

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    well, the reason why my mom doesnt want me to try lsd and things like that is because back in the 60's, she had a VERY bad trip. i guess she is just trying to protect me from a bad trip. but anyway, thanks for the advice, you guys are very nice here!
     
  8. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Places that don't sell to minors either use a credit card to verify that you are over 18, or they require a fax or other copy of a valid driver's license or other form of U.S. identification. So if you're under 18, there really isn't any way you can lie about it. =\
     
  9. Foppful

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    I used my credit card when I was 17 and everything went well. Depends on where you go.
     
  10. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Aye, some places don't care how old you are. You just have to find them; I have seen few ones that weren't fake.
     
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