I understand you’re doing it to be kind but yea, it would be awkward if at a business lunch, I stand up and only one guy does. In family and friends situations, it wouldn’t bother me.
The don't see them as offensive. Aside from the third one mentioned i would think more people would find the opposite offensive. Holding the door is something i do naturally regardless of gender. I don't offer my seat on a crowded train unless the person is handicap or pregnant or appears fragile. I've seen men give up their seats on a train to a young woman and not the elderly man who might need it more. Doesn't make sense to me.
is it wrong to open a door for a lady even if you don't know her? as far as i know, it's pretty much universal for anyone to open the door for anyone. i've had ladies hold the door open for me when i'm so far away i had to run to get to the door before it felt completely awkward. is it wrong to give a lady your seat on a crowded subway train? no, but you should probably offer her your lap first. is it wrong to get up out of your seat when a lady excuses herself from the table? of course you should get up. you get a better view of her ass that way.
1. Opening a door for anyone is a given, but if you only it for women then it would stand out. 2. I would expect you (or myself, for that matter) to give up a seat on a crowded subway train for an elderly, injured, or disabled person. For a lady specifically seems unnecessary. 3. Standing up when a woman excuses herself--what does that accomplish? This one, above all, would stick out as strange to me. I would that you were old fashioned and it might (to be perfectly honest) secretly irk me a bit that you found this necessary.
I'll generally hold the door open for ladies or old people. There have been a couple of times, however, when the person behind me was handicapped, once a guy in a wheelchair and another on crutches. I held the door but it made me, and them I think, uncomfortable. Thank God for automatic doors.
Opening doors has never been uncomfortable for me. It happens all the time. All this kind of talk has put the question in the back of my mind, though. I don't really care about anyone's opinion, though. You are getting the door held open for you whether you like it or not. And I can't remember what else this thread was about. Oh yeah, standing up when a woman leaves the table...I assume that's just an offer to travel with the lady should she need assistance, perhaps if she's going somewhere dangerous. Nowadays you know you can't trust anyone, including the people seated at the table. And oh yeah, I can't remember what else. You mentioned a third thing. Oh yes, offering your seat. I'm never on public transportation.
Oh ok, I understand. Keep doing what you’re doing, women really appreciate that. It’s a lost art, I swear. I jokingly (with a bit of seriousness), told my wife that I was dating at the time, that after we get married, she’s opening her own car door and she gave me this crazy look- then I said I was just joking!
If you get up to go to the bathroom,D, I’m gonna stand on top off the table in front of everybody at the hipforums thanksgiving dinner with my hands on my hips!
I agree with your balanced view On the third point, etiquette of this type should be preserved for formal occasions, particularly when heads of state or members of the royal family are present, but in everyday life it is outdated in the same way as formally dressing for dinner. I have worked on 14 film premiers attended by the Queen and the protocols of everyone being seated and then standing as she enters the auditorium prior to the film are always observed as soon as the trumpet fanfare commences. Likewise, the audience remain seated and stand while she leaves he auditorium at the end of the performance. When she attends the theater on informal occasions. We wait until the audience are seated for the start of the performance, then an announcement is made. "Ladies and gentlemen, the curtain will not rise for a few minutes, due to the attendance of her majesty the Queen" It always goes without a hitch and the audience stand as she is escorted to her seat. For security reasons, the theater are only informed 10 minutes prior to her arrival, so she does not expect a polished welcome. Other members of the royal family arrive and mingle with the audience. Needless to say, they are escorted by a few security staff.
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More like everybody who has the sense to feel slightly awkward at such a convention shuts up while the "cool kids" talk about how creepy or "queer" they are. That's all that would happen.