Turkey V Syria..

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    Tank wars last very long when they require a lot of fuel..
     
  2. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The Turkish government may be stupid, but they know damned well when they've been given the green light to commit genocide if they want.
     
  3. soulcompromise

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    Erdogan says Turkey will never declare ceasefire in northern Syria -NTV
     
  4. Ajay0

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    The Armenian genocide perpetrated by the Turks comes to mind in this regard.

    Adolf HItler was later to say on the Armenian genocide, "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" .

    Probably whetted his own appetite.
     
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    Double post
     
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    First of all forgive me if i spell anything wrong. I am working on my English.

    I think, i am the one who is closeset to these embrassing actions of the humanity. You can ask me anything you want or you can tell me that i am wrong in any point. I respect all opinions. Help me to expand my perspective.

    Here is some information about me. I want you to believe that i am 100 percent objective, humanist and a peaceful world citizen.

    I am an agnostic Turkish guy who lives in Istanbul. I feel like i am a green syndicalist politically. I study maritime operations and management. I hope i will become a captain in the future. I like writing, i am working on my first book while i am studying. I hope i will also become a succesful writer. I play ukulele and i play basketball. I want the same thing most of you guys want, a peaceful life which i can continue to have my beer with my friends who are KURD, ARMENIAN, ARAB, AMERICAN, GREEK, etc. The point that i want to tell you is that we are not that much diffrent here than you guys. But our goverments are. I also don't like Erdoğan like many Turks and rest of the world. I am a secular guy like the majority of our country. But at this point i support the Turkish invasion in Northern Syria in order to create a secure area for 4 million Syrian refugees who live in Turkey.

    Here are 2 most important reason why our goverment needed to do this operation:

    1- Destroy the terrorist groups like and YPG-PKK (Other people call this terrorist groups Kurds makes me and my Kurdish friends feel sorry.) These are not peace corps or liberation armies. These are terror groups who are responsible for civillian deaths including Kurds, Europeans, women, men , babies. PKK is responsible for the drug market in Turkey.

    Here are some sources for you to read:(These are just a few of many terror actions by PKK-ISIS-YPG.It is hard for you guys to found this kind of news in your medias because of some purposes. But trust me these are real. If you don't believe these news. I invite you to investigate these deaths. I will lead you. Free food and accomodation by me.)

    a-
    b-https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkey-6-civilians-killed-by-pkk-ypg-terrorists/1609422
    c-https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/a-timeline-of-the-pkk-s-war-on-turkey-1974-2019-30618
    d-https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/09/12/pkk-terrorists-sent-to-carry-out-bomb-attacks-forest-fires-in-turkey-arrested

    Deadliest recent attacks on civilians in Turkey
    20 August: Bomb attack on wedding party in Gaziantep kills at least 51 people, IS suspected
    29 June: A gun and bomb attack on Ataturk airport in Istanbul kills 45 people, in an attack blamed on IS militants
    13 March: 37 people are killed by Kurdish militants in a suicide car bombing in Ankara
    17 February: 29 people, many of them civilians, are killed in an attack on a military convoy in Ankara
    12 January: 10 people, including at least eight German tourists, die in a suicide bombing in Istanbul, thought to have been carried out by IS October 2015: More than 100 people die in a double suicide bombing at a Kurdish peace rally in Ankara - the deadliest attack of its kind on Turkish soil Source is below by BBC.

    e-https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37601196

    2. We have 4 million Syrian refugees in Turkey which destroys our economy. We are already a country which struggles financially because of our bad goverment policies. Then this refugees destroyed us. We need to send them to their hometowns.

    Here is the ceasefire agreement :The United States and Turkey Agree to Ceasefire in Northeast Syria | The White House
    I hope both goverments remain honest on these 13 issues.

    AMA!
     
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  8. ozerarda

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    In addition: I hope war industrialists pay the price. This will hopefully lead to a more stable middle east by Turkey's and allies success against PKK-YPG. (Terrorists. Not Kurds. Please don't be disrespectful to majority of Kurds who are nice and easygoing.)
     
  9. Asmodean

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    No worries, we're mainy disrespectful to Erdogan.
     
  10. Piney

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    http://m[​IMG]

    This was during the Bush Presidency when The Speaker met with Bashar el Asad, Presient of Syria.

    Glad that our boys will come home, finally.
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    No, that is standard Turkish government propaganda

    Standard government propaganda in any country to try make out the opposing side can only be "terrorists" in a territorial dispute

    You know it is not that simple
     
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  12. ozerarda

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    Here are some sources for you to read:(These are just a few of many terror actions by PKK-ISIS-YPG.It is hard for you guys to found this kind of news in your medias because of some purposes. But trust me these are real. If you don't believe these news. I invite you to investigate these deaths. I will lead you. Free food and accomodation by me.)

    a-
    b-https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkey-6-civilians-killed-by-pkk-ypg-terrorists/1609422
    c-https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/a-timeline-of-the-pkk-s-war-on-turkey-1974-2019-30618
    d-https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/09/12/pkk-terrorists-sent-to-carry-out-bomb-attacks-forest-fires-in-turkey-arrested

    Deadliest recent attacks on civilians in Turkey
    20 August: Bomb attack on wedding party in Gaziantep kills at least 51 people, IS suspected
    29 June: A gun and bomb attack on Ataturk airport in Istanbul kills 45 people, in an attack blamed on IS militants
    13 March: 37 people are killed by Kurdish militants in a suicide car bombing in Ankara
    17 February: 29 people, many of them civilians, are killed in an attack on a military convoy in Ankara
    12 January: 10 people, including at least eight German tourists, die in a suicide bombing in Istanbul, thought to have been carried out by IS October 2015: More than 100 people die in a double suicide bombing at a Kurdish peace rally in Ankara - the deadliest attack of its kind on Turkish soil Source is below by BBC.

    e-https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37601196
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Damning evidence of war crimes by Turkish forces and allies in Syria
     
  14. ozerarda

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  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    80s you say? And how many civilians have Turkish troops killed since the 80s?


    Dont think you are going to have much luck with pro-Erdogan propaganda on this site

    Erdogan says Turkey will take necessary steps against Trump's 'disrespectful' letter
     
  16. Asmodean

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    Are you replying to me there? Why did you quote me? Seems like you're replying to ozerarda
     
  17. ozerarda

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    I live in Turkey ofc i do know bad policies of our governents. I dont agree with them %100 percent. As i stated above i hate Erdogan. Why would i make an Erdogan propaganda. I just want to show my perspective to people from all over the world. This is my perspective. They are terror groups.

    I hope humanity learn not to fight in a short time. Why would i want an agression or offensive war for my country? I am not an extremist. Just read my whole text. I told you guys who i am. Do i sound like a jihadist nationalist warmonger?

     
  18. Asmodean

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    No, you sound like someone who's trying to excuse your government's military actions across the syrian border. One that brings syrian civilians in serious danger as well as is a big threat to setting thousands of IS supporters free again. The far majority of those syrian refugees your government wants to 'send home' again aren't even from that border area, so that's a bogus excuse.
     
  19. ozerarda

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    Guys there are some groups harming you with suicide bombs and stuff for years. Then draw back to the border countries with low stability because of Americans bringing liberation. What is the solution? Deal with the suicide bombers? Let them continue? What is the solution?
     
  20. Asmodean

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    Uhm, you kind of sound like the turkish army chasing away Kurds from their IS prison camps is lowering the risk of extremist suicide bombers. How so?
     

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