i tried Salvia today for the first time. 1, i took a couple of long but tentative hits off my bong and held them each for a good 20 seconds. the smoke tasted fine. after about 30 seconds i started feeling something. the phrase 'funny little plant' kept going through my head. i walked around a bit, cleaned my bong instinctively and felt very nice. a bit like getting stoned for the first time but different. if you see what i mean. i took another hit after 20 minutes to lengthen the effects. but this time my head was filled with a strong idea that something was missing and its name was 'M' i was baffled. i let the effects wear off and smoked a (weed) joint. then it hit me. the 'M' must have been marijuana. that made me think. 2, i waited a couple of hours and tried again. 2 more hits but slightly bigger and i really held this time. 40 seconds at least. i turned off the light, kept my eyes closed and stayed sitting where i was in my chair. i could see walls or streets parting and winding and i was walking throught them. a phrase 'jah loves you' was singing in my head 'love the herb' it said, 'keep rolling.' after a bit of this i opened my eyes. was i in my body? just about. i lay down on my bed, pretty impressed that i was able to coordinate this. i just had time for a few thoughts to go through my mind and then, just as quickly as it came on, i was back in normal territory again. the whole experience from taking the first hit to come-down seemed like 2, maybe 3 minutes. will this time increase as i try higher doses? was the 2nd attempt more profound because i'd done some earlier or because i really held the stuff in my lungs (and had the majic 'M' in me) any one want to guess if this is dried leaves or an extract? i loved it. amazing. totally different and sort of familiar at the same time. it really forces you to let go of everything. eyes closed was best!
the holding increases it. this could have been 5x extract or strong plainleaf - I held mine (like one toke of 10x) for 23 heartbeats this morning and it was really exotic - I found my waterglass perched on a high pile of books afterwards (5 mns later), so if there was any question about "did I wander?" the answer is yes.
i just came back from a meeting with the tree people...so your name is really very appropriate i've done it three times now and each time i've learnt something new but with none of the mystic kind of awe that i love so much in certain other 'drugs.' as you say it's very exotic.
ninjaGear: I agree with redgreenvines, you're likely using a 5x extract or strong plain leaf. I have problems getting significant effects from 5x extract, most of the time, so I use 10x myself. Hrm ... you're holding it in long enough, but are you positive you're burning the salvia all the way through? If you burn it right, then it should go from green to black, then from black to white, and then the majority of plant material should vaporize (leaving only a little bit of white residue in the bowl) and the remaining little bit should cherry for a few seconds. Ideally, you want to burn it ALL the way through, until it stops cherrying completely (MUCH longer than a hit if you're smoking cannabis). You may be able to get more potent effects if you pay lots of attention to this often overlooked detail. Yeah, I have noticed a lot of similarities between Salvia and Cannabis. While both are quite different, I feel as if there is an underlying tie between the two plants. Also ... I'm not sure exactly why the experience is only lasting about 3 minutes for you. When I have a powerful experience, come-up lasts 2 or 3 minutes, then it peaks for about 5 to 15 minutes, and then come-down lasts for 20 or 30 minutes. The whole experience can last up to an hour for most people. I'd suggest you try it again to verify; maybe buy a gram of 10x extract or something?
the bag just said 'extra strength' so i guess it's a strong plain leaf. yes i'm taking all the smoke in right down till only fine white ash is left and holding really long. the effects are totally full on. i was a tree earlier. my body was covered in leaves that fluttered in the wind. i communed with the tree entities and danced/swam with a sentient tree like lizard being. i felt they were with us all the time, watching and knowing. totally beautiful. just lush and exotic and totally different. i get the sense, right after exhaling my second hit, of having arrived somewhere suddenly, like getting off a train, but not remembering getting on the train or any of the jorney. but my peak is only lasting a few minutes with the stuff i have. i'm not really bothered as i'm seeing and learning some interesting things. i was still getting great closed eye visuals almost an hour after the peak (i can get these without drugs but they were enhanced greatly, also due to all the bud i'd smoked) i may experiment with some 10x as suggested. if i feel the need. thanks redgreenvines and hikky z
Yeah, the peak isn't very long with salvia; only a few short minutes. If your comedown is lasting that long, then I misread your post, heh.
