They ARE concentration camps

Always has to be one person...

 

Was hast du in deiner freitzeit?

 

Intentional misrepresentation of source material, and ad nauseum references to Trump.

Neither matter. Our detention policy is inhumane.

 

Fahrvergnugen

 

Thats what the thing says, local government ignores ICE, your federal government just pays privates, then they get stronger, their stock price goes up, then people get detained for longer

 

That doesnt really say anything:

Appoint more judges, process claims more quickly, detain only those with a criminal record.....The number of judges wouldnt be the main bottleneck, they dont have enough information they are just going to set a later date, detainee gets detained again.

Only detain those with a criminal record - how long do you think that takes if they dont even have ID. Lots of cross checking to be done. Its not going to be done overnight

And even with the ones that have never committed a crime, at over 100,000 a month, where are they going to go, where are you going to put them?

And most importantly, why? Why would 100,000 hondurans get preference over 100,000 Syrians, Egyptians, Filipinos, Punjabis, Rohingyans etc


And why do you think they seperate kids from their families? Just to be mean, for the sake of being mean?

And that last part - take responsibility for the role the US has played in creating a migrant crisis- why god oh why arent we talking about the role those countries themselves have in creating the migrant crisis and the people themselves

Why the hell is it racist to say, you know what, how about you just go back fix your own damn country?

 

because half the world is exploited by the other half.
we are so connected and integrated that we cannot just "fix our own countries"
it HAS to be a collective effort.

 

When you put it that way, it doesn't sound racist though.

Can't be racist, if we are all connected.

 

true! just mean : )

 

Well yeah I think it's pretty unfair to tell a family to go fix their country lol. Unless they're Polish, cause them folks were born with a brick in one hand, and a sword in the other and after the war, they will rebuild.

 

And yet there are plenty of examples, even in recent history of groups that did just that

 

But the polish did fight tooth and nail, both just after the first world war and again in second world war in warsaw, ended up getting screwed by the russians. But that Seige of Warsaw is why there is still a Poland


More recently, China wants to deport a few criminals to the mainland, Hong Kong explodes. Meanwhile in Venezuala, inflation gets so ridiculous a kilo of rice is a weeks wages....and 4 million people just walk away....

 

Yeah that's what I mean. But they always rebuild and come away with their identity. Most of the modern history of Poland you learn is more of a tragic story unfortunately, but Poland has always been a strong fighting force in Europe until the past few hundred years. They were critical in stopping the Mongol invasion. The Mongols went through Poland slowly and were then defeated at... Some Polish named town. with help of the Germans too as they were nearing Germany at that point. And they held them off and there and the Mongols retreated.

When the Turks tried to come through Europe, they were stopped in Austria and the Turkish had backing by Mongol allyship. Germany and Poland were also involved together and when the Mongol cavalry lined up and saw the Polish heavy cavalry line up on the opposite side, the Mongols withdrew from the battle and the Turks subsequently did not win that battle.

So basically what I was saying was, they have a history of being invaded, and at times beaten to the point where there was not a country Poland anymore and they've always managed to rebuild.

Brick in one hand, sword in the other. After the war they will rebuild.

And Poland at times was a really good trading country especially in the Viking times as it was a port for across the Baltic into the heart of the Vikings of Denmark and Sweden. So with all the invades and trading, good trading out of the middle ages and the cool thing is the diversity of the people because if you stand in a group of Poles you'd swear sometimes they're all from different countries. You got tall Nordic white poles and shorter dark slavic poles and mixes of both and this is why Poland is known for its gorgeous women.

 

The international sanctions against the Venezuelan government led by the U.S. is also not helping matters. It seems the common people there are taking the brunt of the economic stagnation rather than the government.

India and other customers has also stopped buying Venezuelan oil, due to heavy pressure from the American government having a major grudge against the Venezuelan government and wanting to block its access to oil money.

India Stops Taking In Venezuelan Oil | OilPrice.com

If the Americans want to impose economic sanctions on Venezuela on the behest of the Venezuelan people as the American envoy clearly states over here, why are they reluctant to give political refuge and humane conditions to these immigrants fleeing economic collapse in Venezuela created by the Americans themselves !!

 

There you go again, making out its all Americas fault.

Well, if India stops buying their oil, from now on, it will be partly Indias fault.

But, its mainly Venezualas fault, and the fault of Venezualans for not doing enough

 

I seriously doubt whether you have the intellectual fitness to be discussing these things in a holistic perspective .

 

Every now and again someone posts something worthwhile of keeping and I think to myself, I should save that. And I never do. And that was one of these moments.

 

Over The Years I Have Thought The Same Thing.......When I See A "Gem"..... Write It In My Notebook

To Be Used Against Someone At A Later Time And Place.......But.....Alas I Never Do.....



Cheers Glen.

 

This is another hilarious misinterpretation, or gross oversimplification at best. Hong Kong protests are not so strong because they care about those criminals or any kind of deportation or immigration, but about the threat of China gaining more control. Hong Kong may be part of China now but they have unique privileges and laws compared to the rest of China and not eager to lose any of it. Thanks for playing

 

People usually go argumentum ad hominem when backed into s logical corner.

Its true isnt it, if India stops buying their oil, they are partly responsible for what follows