Mass Shooting 13 Dead Thousand Oaks California

Not exactly. Control and regulation is allowed only so long as it can be justified with a good reason, and only so long as it is not so restrictive that it prevents people from defending themselves.

Control and regulation that does not meet this standard is very much unconstitutional.

That is incorrect. The right of free individuals to carry arms was established 2600 years ago.

The left has promoted some mythological interpretations that are contrary to this, but this leftist mythology has never been embraced by the US Supreme Court at any time in US history.

That is incorrect. It can be banned/regulated/confiscated only if there is a good reason for doing so, and only if doing so does not injure people's ability to defend themselves.

Many of these cases are outrageous civil rights violations. The fact that the left is out to violate our rights is why we must never allow background checks to be mandatory at gun shows.

Unconstitutional. There is no justification for such a ban.

That is incorrect. Civilians use them for self defense and hunting.

That sounds pointlessly draconian. Why couldn't they be sold or given to relatives?

Any pricing beyond what would be justified by legitimate gun ownership risks would be unconstitutional.

Spend tax money on anti-American propaganda?

We've already been doing that for the past 50 years.

We've had background checks for 20 years. Waiting periods beyond what is required to conduct a background check are unjustifiable and therefore unconstitutional.

Unconstitutional. The gun control movement has already undermined this sort of insurance.

People can't be required to fulfill impossible demands before they are allowed to exercise their rights.

That is incorrect. Many of them are blatantly unconstitutional.

 

That is incorrect. All free people have possessed the right to carry arms for the past 2600 years.

This is why it is so important to vote for Trump and the Republicans. The left is out to violate our rights and abolish our freedom.

 

This reads like something a Russian troll would post in the comment section of a Yahoo News article.

Anyway, the left gave me a freedom the right constantly tried to deny me. I thought us younger voters could win a culture war within the Republican party, and shift from a mid-20th Century mindset into something much more modern. But the GOP was tarnished by homophobes, evengelicals, and social conservatives who were all more concerned with restricting my freedoms and rights, and not in expanding them.

It was the Dems, specifically Obama, and his SCOTUS upholding the 14th Amendment that gave me the right to marry.

If you want to make blanket statements about right and left, cool. But for some of us, these aren't just talking points. This shit affects our daily lives.

 

Maniac control is likely to be more effective than gun control in the long run. It would also help us deal with non-gun maniacs who prefer bombs, swords or acid.

 

Anyone who has visited the top ten know that's not true. To say that Australia, New Zealand, the UK. the Netherlands and the Scandanavian countries are somehow not free or less free than U.S. citizens is absurd. And the source of the index is the Cato Institute, ultra- libertarians.

We could call it the Oxymoron Party. It will never happen. Guns are inimical to social safety. Republicans are inimical to safety nets.

 

I love the Cato Institute.

 

It is a wonderful source of confirmation bias for conservative thinking.

 

Why isn't the CDC allowed to study the causes of gun violence? It is allowed to research violence prevention in areas such as elder abuse, youth violence, sexual violence, etc. but gun violence and prevention is off limits. In 1996 Congress passed the Dickey Amendment. Basically it says the CDC can't advocate for gun control. The law was passed along with a cut in funding and research stopped.

If the Republican party wants to be taken seriously on gun violence matters then this situation should be corrected. For one thing we need all the good data we can get when it comes to stopping gun violence. For another thing the appearance is that the Republicans don't want the public to know the causes of gun violence or how to prevent it.

 

It's a privately owned Libertarian organization after all.

Meanwhile, Okiefreak just cited it as his source in a discussion where he was promoting liberal thinking.

 

Hey nose, you ain't wrong.

 

Awesome script bro.

 

Don't play that game. The NRA tried it thirty years ago when BUSH 1st passed the assault weapons ban. There are lots of assault rifles which are used by armed forces all over the world which are semi auto. Examples are the M-14 used by the USA during the Viet Nam war. The M1 Garand used by the USA in Korea. The SKS used by China and Viet Nam and others. There is a big list of semi auto guns which are assault category. Even the Egyptian semi auto Maadi .50 cal is a semi auto. Just because you have a semi auto does not prove it is not an assault rifle. The SKS can be easily converted to full auto and so is the AR15. The main issue on this thread is the mass killing of innocent people and the type of guns used by the right wing crazies who most of the time are cop wanna-be and out to save their white race from migrants. The guys who took over that bird sanctuary in Oregon even brought high dollar HK NATO 7.62X51 assault rifles...in semi auto again! One of them had an Australian FAL NATO 7.62X51 with big mags. You see semi auto and others see weapons of war.

 

How so?

 

That's not true. The Dicky Amendment barred the CDC from using biased sources like Mother Jones and Everytown. In fact Obama ordered the CDC to do a study (which was after the the amendment passed) and found that at tge very least there is no evidence that gun control laws work.

 

It's false. And the link I provided earlier shows that.

 

As tragic as the story is, appeal to emotion will not trump statistics and facts.

 

Post number?

 

Where does it say that?

The amendment said "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may be used to advocate or promote gun control." In the same bill, Congress pulled $2.8 million aimed at gun injury research and this was interpreted as a shot across the bow of the CDC. This scared everyone and ever since the CDC has been reluctant to devote funding to gun violence research without a specific appropriation from Congress. The fear is that the NRA will pressure Congress into cutting public health programs that are viewed as more central and critical to CDC's mission. Given the powerful hold the NRA has on certain members of Congress this is, in my opinion, a valid concern.