Mass Shooting 13 Dead Thousand Oaks California

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I wouldnt bother, all these stats have been presented before and will just be blatantly disregarded again

 

Some interesting data in this article. The University of Washington compares the United States' rate of gun violence to other countries. A couple of things stood out for me.

One is the comparison between US gun violence and countries with similar standards of living based on income per person and average education level. In Japan the rate of violent gun deaths is 0.04 per 100,000 people; in the UK it's 0.06, 0.15 for Denmark and 0.47 for Canada. In the US it's 4.43 gun deaths per 100,000 people, the 28th highest in the world. Other countries with similar statistics include South Africa, Afghanistan and Thailand--the butt awful places of the world.

This leads to the second thing in this article that got my attention. Based solely on the socioeconomic status of the United States one would expect violent gun deaths to be 0.46 deaths per 100,000 people. Instead it's 10 times higher. We are an outlier.

Deaths From Gun Violence: How The U.S. Compares With The Rest Of The World

 

Mexico and Guatemala only have hollow rights that don't really count.

Marco Rubio says Second Amendment is unique in speech to NRA

I'm going to try to combine several replies here instead of making a dozen short replies. Hopefully my post will make sense.

There is no "rest of the free world". The US is the last free country on the planet. Everyone else gave up their right to carry guns.

Which stats are we ignoring?

Improving our social safety net so that we don't have areas of high poverty would eliminate most of our violence.

Don't forget to factor in the high poverty of those areas of the US where there is a high crime rate.

 

No. I don't believe in confiscation. Just sensible gun control, like Maryland's.

 

There is no "rest of the free world". The US is the only remaining free country on the planet. Everyone else gave up their right to carry guns.

People who want to commit a violent crime will just choose a different weapon if they cannot get their hands on a gun.

The parts of our country that have a high homicide rate are not exactly first world. The poverty in those areas is atrocious.

Nothing is wrong. We just value freedom in America.

I find that people who are killed with knives are just as dead as people who are killed with guns.

Yes. Mass shootings are a very small part of our homicide rate.

 

I will not "like" news about a powerful post concerning the death of an innocent human being. But your post is powerful! Everyone needs to read this one!

 

Anyone who wants to kill a lot of people and doesn't have access to a gun can just make a bomb, or steal a truck and plow it into a crowd at high speed.

When addressing a statistical matter, yes.

Luckily my facts are all on target.

Maryland's law unconstitutionally bans assault weapons without justification.

If you don't believe in confiscation, then is it all right for people in Maryland to disregard their state's law and continue to possess guns that it forbids?

 

Nonsense. On the human freedom index for 2017, the U.S. didn't make the top ten. It was #17--below Australia (#5) and a bunch of other countries with tough gun laws.Human Freedom Index

Great. We should try it. That would mean though voting out the Republicans. Gun rights propagandists like to play a little game. People are killing people with guns. "But we shouldn't do anything about the guns because mental illness and poverty are the root causes." Okay, let's do something about those. "Sorry folks, can't afford it. The Republicans gave the money away to the rich people."

 

Thailands figures are heavily skewed by muslim insurgencies along its southern border

 

I couldn't find anything specific to violent gun deaths, but here are the ten US cities with the highest murder rates per 100,000 people:

• St. Louis, MO - 59.29
• Baltimore, MD - 55.37
• Detroit, MI - 43.82
• New Orleans, LA - 41.68
• Birmingham, AL - 37.21
• Jackson, MS - 31.08
• Baton Rouge, LA - 26.23
• Hartford, CT - 25.69
• Salinas, CA - 25.29
• Milwaukee, WI - 24.15

AVOID THESE PLACES!!

 

The rate fluctuates, much like all things do. But that does not justify a nationwide gun confiscation operation as proposed by some people in this thread. Any gun-control proposition that infringes on my right to own a gun for home protection indeed infringes on my rights.

And calling this chart "gun-rights propaganda" would be a propagandist's trick.

 

I like number eleven. Once people understand the issues involved it's easier to remedy.

 

So if I understand you correctly, you're confirming the fact that the right to own a gun has been established. Good.

I'm afraid you're going to have to explain your #1 fact; it's a bit confusing.

And your #1 solution indicates that you share with others the mistaken belief that the term "assault style weapon" means "actual assault weapon." You need to learn the difference between something that looks like an automatic weapon, and something that actually is an automatic weapon.

 

But that's the thing. Up until recently, a semiautomatic gun was a semiautomatic gun, and not an assault weapon. But now, the thing that distinguishes an assault weapon from a regular semiautomatic weapon is a cosmetic fearture. If the legal definition of an assault weapon doesn't pass the reality test, then it's faulty.

 

That's a bogus list. Free people have the right to carry guns.

Unfortunately we need to have the Republicans in power in order to protect our gun rights.

I'd love to be able to vote for a party that supports both gun rights and a strong social safety net.