the veil of reality

That is a good answer, for most.
The finer, invisible, realms use other dimensions to our own three plus time. It has been suggested. in physics, that there could be at least 12 other dimensions. These other dimenisons are within the fabric of our perceived realm (reality). The only time, as far as I know, when humans have perceived such finer realms is when they were allowed to. In other words, when finer life, or consciousness, manipulated the denser realm we call reality (opened up the heavens/portal). As far as I know, we are not yet able to use our senses, or instrumentation, to see into the finer realms.

 

whatever you "are fed" isn't reality, because reality owes nothing to anything anyone feeds anyone.
remember hug a tree? that sounds silly, but getting close enough to trees and rocks to not have to see paved streets and square houses helps a lot.
just not hearing a human voice makes it easier to resurrect your own imagination.

 

actually yes i can. fascination with stuff that doesn't have to be possessions is ok. even exploring sex is ok if you're young enough and agile enough to not run out of kinks to explore.
but those are a little like beating your head against a wall too, because its the creating and exploring that the gratification comes from, rather then the limiting yourself to cleche's,
which frequently provide little or none.

 

the thing about seeing, is that it requires looking.

 

I generally disagree that sex is so great. I think it's the most banal thing that people do. And the ones who have the most of it are the most obnoxious so we all have to center our lives around their "sexual exploration." I don't think anyone has ever discovered anything through sex. Nothing intelligent, anyway. So you've discovered that a man will let you make him bark like a dog while you finger his asshole. I GUESS that has taught you something about the human condition, but not anything I really want to know about. I wish sex were more of a private affair than it is these days. I don't like being left at the whim of people whose combined philosophy is the made-up word "yolo."

 

I feel like you're attempting to discuss 2 different things as if they are one concept here, but I'll discuss the physics aspect of what I believe you're addressing.

I think you are talking about String Theory, so let's assume String Theory with 12 other dimensions is an accurate, comprehensive explanation of reality. It still does not change our human experience of reality because we remain, while in our bodies, relegated to 3 dimensions plus time.

 

Yes if your bar on what constitutes nature is that low. Responsibility is great so long as we need it. Accountability for actions still requires actions & responsibility is paramount to achieving what some humans currently see as God-hood & for others is an enlightened state or just a god even & bringing that into fruition in the current dimensions of understanding. All that said I'd think to safely assume our terms of deification are in different places.

The other is an exceptional concept that has spurred human achievement for countless generations. Many things can be learned by understanding ego but many just gain from being the ego. Both must be done to reach the non-being of ego which will eventually lead to balance.

Well this is either going to all be equally ambiguous or with any luck we'll get somewhere.

Agreed. I would still say there is a way to perceive it all as humans but not in the currently understood sense. Logic is a fine fuckin' start though.

Perhaps but who's to say we need any more than that? We understand perception in a damn specific way akin to our understanding of nature. I don't dispute the current understanding just the potential outcomes. Believing we are already most aware is a hindrance to furtherance of understanding.

Most, certainly not. I would ask your definition of finer realms but if your ideas on nature are Wiccan by any chance I think I understand the nuance. I don't really think there are finer realms per say just other realms. We exist in all of them but we're just unaware in the vast majority of them. We influence the unperceived by a furtherance of perceptions of understanding.

Gotta love string theory. So true yet so false. Good shit. Ok I gotta go to bed you fuckers & fuckettes. G'night & may your realities be fed what the shit knows they're hungry for.

 

I agree. But the reality we are being fed IS the reality. Like it or not. Or am I being dense.

 

Good point. As Spock said, "Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end."

 

I think that depends on if you take the blue pill or the red pill.

 

Perhaps he can become a messianic figure if fed proper like. Fuck gotta get sleep. Go fuck yourselves & your matrix........ I need no pill........kung fu kuck ass.......... dammit tha was s'posed to be kick, fuck it we'll go get cuckold

 

Hahaha get some sleep brother.

 

Not necessarily so. What we see is mental imaging. Other consciousness have the ability to alter what we see/image in our brain, hence spiritual illusions. . . "Look," Stephen said, "I see heaven open . . . " Acts 7:56

 

can you explain how this in any way pertains to the point that you cannot perceive what you do not contemplate?

a point that while perhaps as metaphorical as your own, i would have thought rather unambiguous.

 

I thought I explained that. Perhaps I have misunderstood your question. I will try and answer this portion of your above post . .

Other consciousness, such as of spirit, angels, demons, etc., of another realm have instilled a thought which the observer of the illusion/vision was not contemplating about.
The observer was contemplating on something else when a vision took over their contemplation of something else.

A mild example of this, in our realm, is when a person is contemplating of someone else. That someone picks up on their thoughts, or vision, through telepathy.

People have forseen things, and then later seeing it. . .clairvoyance. Many of these experiences happen while dreaming, when contemplation is at its weakest.

 

I use this in the case of building 7. A steel building that is said to have collapsed from office fires. I have seen the videos, watched all the interviews and facts. Anyone with any kind of reasonable thinking can conclude that did not happen but yet people cling to a lie.

 

yes you can be interupted, but interuptions do not give understanding. we're still talking past each other about two entirely different things.

 

None of the WTC buildings could have collapsed in the way they did. The idea is preposterous. Yet that is the world we live in. Planes fly into buildings and they crumble into dust. Office fires cause free fall collapses. I don't know if our collective psyche will ever overcome the stupidity of this collective agreement we share.

 

We are never quite who you think we are, and our perceptions of our collective behavior reflect our own. That's because the answer to the Many World's theory is that each of us individually and collectively create our own reality. The people who surround us, tend to resemble us, and the world around us tends to resemble ourselves, because that's instant karma baby. To some extent, we all make it up as we go along and the question is how to blow this popsicle stand for something a bit more upscale.

 

There are 1000's of Architects and Engineers that agree with you. Yet, people would rather believe the media and politicians.