True. There were even contacts between Russians and the Trump campaign. You know I actually believed for awhile that this investigation wouldn't turn up anything. Now I'm pretty certain it will. At least, it might.
As I expected people are quick to point out that Trump is not involved with all this. I would point out that is how criminal operations work. The boss does not get his hands dirty and he does not take a fall. There is very little he will ever do because his role is to lead not take the risks. When someone is busted it will look as if they act alone even if the boss tells them what to do. Kind of like how Al Capone only went down for taxes even though he ordered much more and the police knew it. But he was never there when it was done so how to prove it? Had Trump said nothing the past year or two maybe that is right. But keep in mind the fear and anger he has shown on this topic and the way he always has to speak on it. VERY incriminating considering recent events.
So So tell me, tovarishch, what do you make of Mueller and the U.S. Intelligence community, all of whom agree about this Russian interference that you dismiss as, how you say: " a wild goose chase that's so laughable I can't believe (well actually I can) the left are still chasing". Are they liars, fools, nuts, or what? And what explains the casualness by which you dismiss their assessments? Indictments in the U.S. legals system require a showing to a judge of probable cause of criminal activity. The particulars are available for our inspection. Do you have any factual basis for your assertions, or are you just blowing them out your ass? And do you think Cold War I was started by U.S. liberals? The U.S. government? Surely the good ol' Ruskies couldn't have anything to do with it. It's not just the U.S. elections that have been targets of Russian trolls and propaganda operations. Neo-Russian imperialists are following the playbook developed by Russian intellectual Alexander Dugin to exploit western anxieties over immigration with lurid stories of immigrant atrocities such as those which you've so assiduously shared with us in your numerous posts. How Putin undermines democracy in the West, chapter and verse | Opinion Here's the first evidence Russia used Twitter to influence Brexit | WIRED UK https://www.economist.com/news/euro...con-international-movement-russian-propaganda European Parliament urges action against Russian 'hostile propaganda' | News | DW | 23.11.2016 Russian interference looms over European elections What Is Russia Today? Judy Asks: Can Europe Defeat Russian Disinformation? The Russians had a name back in the day for Americans of your point of view: "useful idiots".
Russia conquered Crimea and invaded Ukraine. Nobody is saying they are nice people. Are conquered peoples a concern? Madame Secretary Clinton lost the election. She had all the money and institutional support and still lost. Russia has hijacked American politics, just read this thread. Just Watch MSNBC.
They're just subject to dubious and oppressive rule, and a certain amount believes its governments propaganda. I would say plenty of Russians are nice people.
I know, right. There were no Russian trolls or bots here. And if there were--WHICH THERE WASN'T!-- I wasn't one of them. And let's say for sake of argument that they were here--WHICH THEY WEREN'T!--and I was one of them--WHICH I WASN'T!--I would have defected. But I didn't have to defect because I wasn't one of them.
I'm just sick of war and hearing reasons why we need to escalate war with yet another country. There will always be another evil dictator to confront.
Do you want to roll over for the Russians, then, and let them mess with our elections" If people don't care, the evil dictator we confront may end up in the White House, if he's not there already.
Lol 'The Russians.' I agree there is much wrong with the Russian regime, and Putin is a bully, but I love Russia. Many, many good people there. A fascinating epic history. Some of the best literature the World has ever produced. Like the Chinese and Arabs, they just have a slightly different take on things. I wish the those obsessed with the supposed meddling, which I admit does whiff a bit, would get a grip on their outright damning of an entire peoples.