The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Pence may quit before it's over. Worst political move in history, being Trump's VP.
     
  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    I still think he has a shot of making it 4 years. All the things that matter to anti-Trump people don't exist to his voters. The man is just too popular for any career Republican politician to do anything about it. He's far from popular overall but the squeaky wheel gets the grease. And these wheels have guns and in general have been upset the last 8 years. As bad as he is the Republicans have the moral victory of him not being Hillary or Obama. Sometimes I think that is really all that matters to them. Even now months after both of them are long gone I hear them brought up as if was still 2016 and either of them had any say in American's lives. The war with them is never over.
     
  3. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Is anyone surprised by this?
    Firing people quickly was part of his showbiz gimmick for several years.
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I can't wait 'til he fires Ivanka
     
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  5. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    What the fuck does even mean?????

    anal-cranial impaction
     
  6. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Anal cranial, what does this mean? Seems pretty rude to me.

    Let me say it a different way. As long as it's not Obama or Hillary the "liberal fake news" kind of people nothing else matters. So there will be allowances and accommodations given to Trump that the other two would not have. He is an asshole but he's the Republican asshole. So him being where he is progress. Even if the average Republican does not like him and they seem to they will support him because they believe the alternative is too dangerous.

    Just watch in a few years that will be sales pitch. Give Trump a chance he's not perfect but he's not liberal. Many Republicans will accept it. Because that is the norm in America you vote to cancel the other guy out every politician is a piece of shit accept it.
     
  7. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    if you can't figure it out....it ain't my job to educate you.....LOL
     
  8. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    LOL can you imagine?
     
  9. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    Maybe

    But I also think Pence is a wet dream for many of the religiously conservative Republicans in Congress.

    Plus, Trump's behavior is really getting harder to pass off as normal for any sane, reasonably intelligent person. His most loyal base will certainly support him until the end but Congress will only support him as long as it is politically expedient to do so.

    My prediction is Congress will wait until Trump does something really stupid, then invoke the 25th amendment, declare him mentally incompetent and Pence will take the role of acting President

    Pence or someone like him is likely who most Republicans wanted in the first place but he isn't likable enough to run and win on his own right

    Maybe my prediction is far fetched but this presidency is far fetched

    Personally I would prefer to see Trump remain as president until 2020 because I think Pence is far more dangerous.
     
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  10. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    I think he's far less stupid though, and would refrain from forcing his socially conservative views into law.

    But, that's just a guess.
     
  11. Meliai

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    I think he's far less stupid too, which is why I think he's more dangerous. Trump has been largely ineffectual as a leader because he's a blithering idiot.

    I think if Pence did try to pursue his agenda he would be more effective at it than Trump, but hopefully you are right and he wouldnt attempt it
     
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  12. egger

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    One can imagine Ivanka leaving the administration eventually on her own accord out of frustration. She could pick up other jobs where she can be more effective outside of the Trump administration promoting causes of her interest. She's not having much success lately on issues that matter to her. Trump's ban on transgender people in the military is an example. Being in the Trump administration for a year or two would help her learn the ropes for positions later that wouldn't depend on being in the administration.

    To date she has served as a symbol to the public of something that is polished and refined, as opposed to the vulgarity and ugliness of Trump. How long she can stay interested in such a position remains to be seen. Considering she followed Jared to DC, if Jared ends up getting run out of DC due to an investigation or some other incident, Ivanka will almost certainly leave the DC arena with him.

    The same can be said about numerous other people currently in the Trump administration or any administration that is in disarray. Frustration causes many to leave their positions early.
     
  13. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    where did MeAgain go?
     
  14. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Yes. He's certainly capable of passing legislation because, unlike Trump, he actually knows how American government works. But I also think he's smart enough to realize if the Republicans want to remain relevant, they're going to have to stop being so suburban.

    Eh, never mind. I forgot. He said, "I'm a Christian first, a conservative second, a Republican third. He has no place in politics. Maybe Pence is Trump's insurance against assassination?
     
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  15. egger

    egger Member

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    Comedian Robin Williams used to say the same thing about Dan Quayle and Bush Sr. :)
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I'm back, went to a high school class reunion. Very depressing, not because everyone was old but because I ran into one of my old college roommates and found out he's a Trump supporter. He tried to talk politics but we all told him to shut up, even his wife, as she can't stand Trump.

    I didn't find out about Scarrymoochie until late last night when I checked on a tablet.
    I don't come here on tablets or phones as I like to use real keyboards.

    But, I did run into two babes from grade school, so that was cool.
     
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  17. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Where do American and human fit in? Anyhow, this is an interesting philosophical question. Competence means a lot to me, so that would be a plus. On the other hand, the Ken Doll jock persona, televangelical mock sincerity, and overall slickness would be hard for most voters to see through. He's the very prototype of what most rock-ribbed Republicans think is a model leader: a total phony. And we'd get more of the same: diversionary attacks on outgroups like LGBTs and Muslims while he'd line the pockets of the country club set with more loot. With "Christians" like this, who needs Satanists? Can't we do better than this?
     
  18. Noserider

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    That's why I'd hope he'd be smart enough to accept that it's 2017, the people have spoken, and he should keep his personal views personal. But with statements like that, he's essentially saying that his religious views and ideas of social conservatism trump (hahaha see what I did there?) political conservatism. He might be brazen enough to wield big government's hammer to legislate our daily lives while being championed by a bunch of people who claim to want small government.
     
  19. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    It seems to me he selected Pence as a form of impeachment insurance. On one hand he knows his foes are hungry for impeaching and throwing him out. On the other hand, this same people are more terrified of president Pence.

    When a candidate selects a running mate, they don't always select someone of a similar ideology. They do it to score more political points to compensate for their weaknesses. Trump selected Pence because he was weak amongst the Christian Right who didn't like him. Also for impeachment insurance. Obama selected Biden because Obama's weakeness was experience and a life long career politician like Biden compensated for it.
     
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  20. Noserider

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    Pretty much the same reason McCain selected Pailin.
     
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