Hillary Clinton

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  1. Wu Li Heron

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    The American people have decided they want bread and circuses and I'll be damned if they didn't get what they asked for.
     
  2. Moonglow181

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    I did not ask for bread and circuses.....why did I get them?
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ok, but this guy is an idiot.

    Just his general demeanour in this last debate, who are the people on his team prepping/advising him on this? Are they doing anything, or just sitting by the sidelines sipping chardonnay?

    At least advise him to smile once in a while, throw in an "it's an honour to serve the public/ I'm so grateful for the privilege" once in a while like Hillary does.

    He just came off sounding like sour miserable such and such most of the time
     
  4. monkjr

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    Those who voted for Trump are directly tied into supporting his shenanigans, and the blame must be shared due to their lack of foresight into what he'd do at the current stage of the campaign. It's embarrassing for the Republican party, and I bet you it's really making Republican politicians really question what values their electorate really holds.


    On the other hand, Obamacare largely doesn't work as well as it could have because too many states opt-ed out of the system (mostly Republican controlled states) mind you.

    However in my personal case, I have to only pay $100 approx a month for a very decent plan, and also I personally put myself in decent health too compensate for what my lifestyle need in terms of number of trips to the doctor etc.

    Given that in an alternative number crunch pre-2008, where Obamacare doesn't exist, I would have had to pay about $1000 a month with very high deductible for coverage, at this same point in time in an alternate 2016.

    Sorry but for someone who works approx 38-40 hours a week, the former is much more preferred and shows a benefit because of the Affordable Care Act. So when people complain that it's bad for them, I have to disagree, it's made the situation better.
     
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    Thabks, i'm glad she's addressing the issues that still exist
     
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  8. MeAgain

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    Cherokee Chief Attakullakulla's question to the English colonists at a negotiation meeting in 1759.

    Nanye'hi, one of the Cherokee women negotiators demanded that the colonists allow their women to be part of the negotiations.
     
  9. Asmodean

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    Just like with feminism there is a sensible variety and a variety that takes it to the extreme. It is not really right or helpful to portray the whole left as people who think everything is sexist, racist and overplaying the guilt card.
    Well it could be helpful, depending on what you are trying to accomplish with it. If one is convinced the right of the political spectrum has much better ideas for instance. If not, and you're not a convinced 'leftist' either it is better to look past a left vs. right depiction of things. Well, if one would be clearly leaning to either the left or the right it would still be the wise thing to do. Seeing things strong enough like that is bound to cause distorted or oversimplified convictions.
     
  10. storch

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    It appears that the Judiciary Committee has some questions for Attorney General Lynch regarding Hillary Clinton's unauthorized use of private email server during her stint as Secretary of State.

    "As part of the Judiciary Committee’s ongoing oversight of Secretary Clinton’s unauthorized use of a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State, the Justice Department (DOJ) provided in camera review’ of certain immunity agreements. After a specific request from the Committee, based on references made in the immunity agreements to certain “side agreements,” DOJ subsequently provided in camera review of those “side agreements” between DOJ, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and Beth Wilkinson, the lawyer representing both Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson. Like many things about this case, these new materials raise more questions than answers. Please provide a written response to the below questions and make DOJ staff available for a briefing on this matter no later than October 10, 2016."

    http://politicalcult.com/letter-proves-fbi-colluded-hillary/
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    The actual document can be seen here:

    https://www.scribd.com/document/326263616/100316-Goodlatte-Letter-to-AG-Lynch#from_embed
     
  11. unfocusedanakin

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    That is not the message of the left at all. That is "safe space" liberals. They take it the extreme you mentioned. The thing Republicans get wrong is believing those kind of people are accepted on the other side. In general they are not because what they want is for free speech to sacrificed for the sake of their feelings. Like it's too difficult to deal with people who don't agree with you so they are not allowed to disagree with you.

    Does it work any better to pretend these things NEVER happen? That is the vibe I get sometimes. Like you are a racist because you said racism exists. If we don't talk about it or see then it's not real. That is the way an ostrich deals with things. People need to be honest about were society is. And that is some people still hold racist or sexist views. Some of these people are white some are not.
     
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    Anonymous releases video on Clinton:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK2K5v5bm0Q
     
  13. Moonglow181

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    Beloved/ Savior? no....I am not delusional to think anyone is....I am not delusional to think anyone will fight for me...Bernie came the closest to fighting for everyone, though.
    What is left are two people fighting for themselves and their own agendas....
    I vote Hillary as I do not think she will make the world much worse than it already is...like the other one will.

    So the strategy now from trump....is....and I quote from what i heard on the news and it is obvious anyway...."1,000 little cuts will bring her to death..."

    Seems to be your strategy, too, but I can think for myself, thank you.
     
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    Leaked emails...that is what wikileaks is? I am not into wiki leaks...How do you know these hackers don't change things, like words too, to leak.....They would have the capabilities to do that , too, I would venture to think....Prove it to me that they don't to sway elections or whatever in their favor....
     
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    I do not trust it....anything hacked can be anything changed, too....

    so people don't put in emails what you don't want the world to possibly see or change.....
    I was aware of someone watching mine, so i said things to entertain them solely, knowing they were watching, and I got very nasty ,too, on purpose...and then watched them. they think they have it all over me...too...HA!
     
  18. MeAgain

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    Good Lord!!!

    So we put pressure on governments that are supplying clandestine aid to ISIL and people see that as funding and arming ISIL?

    Message to Earth 2: Ever think the pressure was to get them to stop???
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzSh4lc35I
     
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  21. Moonglow181

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    I know that....so i watch people...listen to them...straight from the horse's mouth...their real mouth......in real time....and I have a bull shit meter built in me...always have.....and can pretty much determine who someone really is, myself....
     
  22. Aerianne

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    Here is some information on the scope of WikiLeaks, if you care to read it. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/421949/everything-you-need-to-know-about-wikileaks/
     
  23. Okiefreak

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    It bothers me a great deal. Russia and Iran have decided to go all out to destroy the opposition to Assad. The potential for further human suffering, cold war, and hot war is clear. The Cold War "fears" are very real and well-founded. That Russia is willing to try to meddle in our elections shows a frightening level of adventurism that could lead to catastrophic consequences.
     
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