If you knew me at all, you'd know I have quite the disdain for republicans and right wingers. But my patience has been growing pretty thin for bleeding heart PC liberals as well. Funny thing, it's almost like I have this strange capacity to THINK for MYSELF on an issue by issue basis.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/ Well, what do you know..there IS a Pew poll, and it is very nuanced. It seems according to this poll the issue of Shari'a law is far more complicated than, "90% of all Muslims support it." The actual percentage of people who support it varies widely by country too , and the interpretation of what Shari'a law actually is and what parts of it should be applied to modern society varies as well.
Thank you Mel, Sharia is a very complex set of rules that are intended for Muslims in their daily lives; for example, it is used when getting married, divorced, born, and in death and inheritance. It is used to regulate diet, prayer, and home mortgages. In the case of mortgages, Sharia requires a Muslim to seek out a flat fee contract, as opposed to a percentage rate one. The rules in Sharia are essentially Talmudic rules, and mostly straight out of Leviticus.
I can tell you dont know anything about Islamic metaphysics or doctrine. You aren't in a position to know what drives the inner lives of anyone other than yourself. By generalizing from your own experience of "just trying to get by" you assume that this is the reality for the vast majority of people; the problem with atheists sometimes is that they are so removed from religious thinking that they can't comprehend how someone can actually believe the literal word of their holy texts and devote their lives to an invisible god. You should read this book, by an extremely brave and talented woman who spent the first half of her life in the midst of orthodox Islam: Maybe you should actually learn about what you are speaking about, because like any domain of knowledge, walking through this world with just assumptions and fantasies will lead to nothing but fallacies. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427439/muslims-terrorism-and-president-obama-josh-gelernter Muslim support of awful, awful behavior is actually quite high. How do you explain the fact that muslim violence today is exactly as it has occurred since the time of the prophet? I think you should open a history book and stop listening to the propaganda of Saudi Arabia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo Islam has been destroying entire civilizations since it began. Where are the buddhists of afghanistan? Where is the great coptic civilization of egypt? Trampled to death by Allah, Muhammad, and Sharia. I didn't "cherry pick" those videos; I picked those videos. I also picked what to quote for you from the the Quran and Hadith to prove your points about Islam wrong. You cannot provide counter-evidence, and only seem to enjoy slandering and ad hominem when someone says anything bad about Islam. Yeah, why don't we look at this nuanced poll, objectively, and carefully and quietly use our thinking caps to really chew on the results. Be sure to definitely not be a racist because that would be really bad!! : That is definitely not something to be happy about. Have you READ Leviticus?
No, not all muslims are terrorists; but the vast majority of terrorists are muslims. "According to the Country Reports on Terrorism 2011 published in 2012 by the U.S. National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), "Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year. More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities."[24] The report said that in 2011, a total of 10,283 terrorism attacks across the world killed 12,533 people. Terrorism was also blamed for 25,903 injuries and 5,554 kidnappings. According to the NCTC, of the 12,533 terrorism-related deaths worldwide, 8,886 were perpetrated by "Sunni extremists", 1,926 by "secular/political/anarchist" groups, 1,519 by "unknown" factions, 170 by a category described as "other", and 77 by "Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist" groups.[24]"
Now that you have brought in Hirsi Ali, I am convinced that you are driven by hate. I have known about her for years. She is a part of a long line of fakes who have been supported by the right wing talk show hosts of Clearchannel and Permier and fox. One right after the other they are paraded on Hannity, on Levin, and on Cunningham and they puke out all sorts of fake life stories and outright disinformation. Walid Showbat, Bridgeet Gabriel, and a troop of others all are presented as experts on Islam when in fact they hate Muslim people. These talk show hosts claim that Nickoula Nickoula is a great guy who meant nothing by producing an inflamatory film about the Muslim Prophet. Geller, Emerson, and Jasher are all supposed to be experts. And they all have these charts and sats to support their position. And they all get their Koranic quotations from Jerks like Robert Spencer and David Jerushalmi and Victor Mordachai and Avi Lipkin and God knows who else...all fakers with an agenda. I'm not impressed by your fake charts, fake graphs, and overt hate.
So how did your KKK go about and collect this information about leaving Islam and getting killed for it? Did you have a long distance calling card? Did Robert Spencer tell you it is a fact?
Appendix C of the Pew Research report details their methodology. (http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-appc/) If you don't know what a "sample size" is, or what "statistically significant" means, you aren't in a position to critique an excellent poll done by one of the best social research organizations on the planet. If you think this poll is bogus, because of "reasons", you should also not brush your teeth, or look both ways before crossing the street, because data on an arbitrary number of realities in human life are derived from surveys and studies like this one, and often they are nowhere near as rigorous as this. Notice that in a dicussion about an ideology based on literature, I am providing direct quotations of the literature, statistics, and news stories. My opposition in this thread is providing . . . insults from a 15 year old. I'm being smeared as a KKK member, a Mossad agent, a republican, a racist, etc. I love how you level the playing field by automatically calling any ex-muslim a "fake" and an "agent". That's suspiciously convenient for you; should anyone leave the mafia of Islam and be brave enough to speak out about it, saying things that we already knew, you would simply silence them by smearing them. I think it's plainly obvious who is being ethical and honest in this discussion and who is not.
Islam is a violent, backwards religion and the world will never be at peace while it exists. (I'll show myself the door now...)
I also could have predicted a thread against anti Muslim rhetoric would have been taken over by Mr. Writer's anti Muslim rhetoric. Yawn
So many people here think we as a culture and religion play nice, nice together. Shall I post a video of people being thrown off a 10 story building and landing on their heads, then getting kicked as they die by the crowds. I have one. Christians and gays, or anyone against sharia laws, etc. Want to see it? If you are not muslim, you will be raped and killed. Their book says it's OK because you are an infidel. But that's only a super small percent of muslims, right? No! Wake up!
Your video is put out by MEMRI Corporation of Israel. They are haters of Muslims and always produce fake stuff to be used in defamation of Muslims. I have a video of Israeli soldiers killing unarmed Palestinian women. I have a video of US troops gunning down and killing seventeen unarmed Iraqi civilians from a combat helicopter. That video has good sound and you can hear what the pilot and gunner say to eachother as they murder Muslims.
I wasn't talking about Israeli soldiers. We are importing 'refugees' at an alarming rate into the West. And seeing heads pop open like watermelons on the bloody steps of a building after they were thrown from the roof didn't look fake to me.
Mr. Writer I expected someone would point out the wars outside the middle east. That is nothing but fighting for borders. Almost every single country has done that...that is how borders are established. (Yes even before the imaginary lines the brits drew in the sand after ww1
your video about guys being thrown from the roof allegedly took place in Syria, gay men being thrown off by ISIS, who claim to be Muslim but in reality are from France or Chechenia. Your video was made by MEMRI of Israel. Neither of these two facts have anything to do with you importing refugees into the west. You and Trumpy need to understand that refugees are for the most part poor people who are escaping wars. These wars were started by GW Bush and the Republicans who gave us a cock and bull story about weapons of mass destruction.
The borders of Israel and Palestine were created by the United Nations in November of 1948. That is how borders are established. They sure as hell should not be established by radical Christian extremists who live in a trailer park.
Not really a subject I am interested in but maybe if the Muslims fought a little more for that land and less so for all the land that mr. Writer mentioned. They just might have kicked the Israelis out.