Post news reports that show wisdom of citizens carrying guns

Discussion in 'Politics' started by sunfighter, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. Bud D

    Bud D Member

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    Isn't there a story floating around about a drunk kid who knocked on the wrong door and was shot dead?

    People feel big with a gun.
     
  2. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    How was the homeowner supposed to know that? I'm not sure of the story or the details but going by what you said people aren't obligated to know the intentions of their intruders.
     
  3. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Your welcome.
     
  4. Bud D

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    Knocking on a door is not an intruder, as most paranoid people assume. Knocking on a door is an assumed privilege in a sane world, a normal world.

    The kid was drunk and didn't know where he was at, he knocked on the wrong door. No reason to shoot first and now the guy who shot him is waiting trial.

    My Dad pulled a hand cannon on a pizza boy that knocked on the wrong door. He didn't shoot first then wait to go to jail, he wasn't that God damn stupid.
     
  5. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Please post the story. If your details are true then I would agree with you. However if its true that doesn't reflect on all gun owners just like the violent Muslims doesn't reflect on all Muslims.
     
  6. Bud D

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    I heard the story on the local news and there are so many reports online like it. Most of the reports are on pro-gun websites and carry that flavor of 'you deserved it'.

    My Dad kept a few guns. A .303, a type 56, some sort of hand canon and he had no idea how to raise kids. Just left all that loaded ready to rock n roll and drank heavily.
     
  7. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Please provide a link.
     
  8. Bud D

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    squeeze your trigger
     
  9. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    What's that supposed to mean? Anyway the closest I found was this.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/drunk-teen-shot-stumbling-wrong-house-father/story?id=18764652

    As it turns out he DID entered the owner's home, this justifying the owner in shooting him. Like I said originally its not the homeowner's job to know the intent of someone breaking into his house. In fact he has every right to assume the worse and think that the intruder is there to do him harm.
     
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  11. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Do you have any evidence for your claim about police? What if I said the same thing about Muslims?
     
  12. Bud D

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    Perhaps not. I don't really trust Muslims or any religious group. I find ideas and motivation can result in bad results. I kinda like Osho but even he motivated followers to be terrorist. Not directly but there is something trippy about life that the ego gets tripped up on.

    I will say that I have had my fair share of military fantasies as a youth and I thought nothing about killing someone. I've learned that I am just not that way. I looked up to a lot of movies about Vietnam and soldiers because my dad said he was in Vietnam. Sorta trained as a youth being a swimmer, a boy scout and Culver summer school graduate. I wanted to be a combat swimmer and used to play make believe in the pool. I never really got into feeling or morale debates but it set a lot of people off. Now that I am an adult and not like that anymore, my fantasy is totally more. Now I am like that it seems everyone is pro-military when I was a kid they hated that. They got concerned and pretty much said I was mental in some way or from a defunct family, but without words.

    So now I am mental and am progressing to be more illuminated. Without the complications of illegal drugs, but oh yes I sure do have some tempting fantasy daydreams.
     
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  14. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    She's not afraid to shoot, often. I personally think she should have used both hands, that gun was all over the place. Doesn't she know you're only supposed to shoot to wound? Maybe she should take more time at the range learning to shoot at feet. That way people who don't know shit about guns or crooks can feel better.

    Imagine what this lot may have done to her had she been unarmed. How long do you suppose it took the cops to get there? I'd say she's lucky to be alive, but she's not. She's alive because she had a plan all along. Unlike these losers who broke into her place.

    Personally, I'm a very good shot. I know where to hit a crook so he has to shit in a bag for the rest of his life. As long as he gets down on the floor and waits for the cops like I tell him, he'll survive intact.
     
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  15. pensfan13

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    damn i just read the first post, i didnt know there was rules to posting the shit that i did...by some miracle i managed to accidentally hit all the requirements. phew...
     
  16. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    You can't guarantee a shot like that and you certainly can't guarantee that shot would stop him in his tracks. You don't shoot to kill and you don't even shoot to wound. You shoot to stop the threat and it just so happens the fastest way to do so and still give you a bigger target is the high chest area. If he dies so be it, if he lives so be it, the fact remains is that he immediately stopped whatever actions he was trying to do. I would also add that the court system might actually use your "shoot to wound" tactic against you. They will either say "no, you're just a bad shot and tried to murder him" or "if you felt you were safe enough to not end his life then why did you shoot?"
     
  17. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Oh indeed, if it's a real threat smashing in my door, it's all about the center mass and rounds that seat themselves snugly. I only make fun of the whole "why didn't they just shoot him in the leg, they didn't have to kill him" wailing I hear from time to time. A leg shot can hit an artery and kill them almost as quickly as a chest shot, so it's pointless. If a bullet comes out of the barrel, somebody could end up dead.

    The lower intestine shot is for psychotic assholes who have the drop on someone stupid enough to lunge at them after it has been explained. I make no claims to sanity.
     
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