Donald Trump

You must have missed all the pre 2014 rollin vs rat tirades. Mostly about gym and appearance stuff though.

 

Asmo & Balbus,

The whole white privilege concept is based on labeling and divisionism. I suggest you both read up on the psychological/sociological concept of the Labeling Theory. When you tell white young adults and children that they are born with an inherent privilege, you are planting the seed of a very toxic idea that all their personal success and accomplishment is due to the color of their skin. Same for non-white young people; the concept of white privilege tells them that their life's success stories will be limited by society due to the color of their skin. When you apply such labels like this to people, it turns into a self fulfilling prophecy. Why try to succeed if you've been brought up to believe failure is inevitable? But hey, I guess this is the liberal agenda to ramp up the victim card as much as they can.

Guess what, your outcome in life is NOT determined by: your skin color, your gender, your religion, your sexuality, or wealth. Minorities are NOT held by ball -and-chain from succeeding in life. It doesn't matter what statistics say; we all make personal choices.


Further, I will not marginalize my own career and academic success based on my Nordic/Slavic appearance. All my successes were based on my talent and hard work I put forward to stand above the rest in a competitive dog-eat-dog world. It took a long time to finally get recognized as the designer that I am. But it all started when someone I barely knew hired me to work on a project that would help him grow his company. He was an African American man who recognized me for my work and talents. He is the most brilliant computer and business genius I ever had the honor of meeting and working for. The discussion of race never comes up in my interactions with my boss. But I can tell you he never allowed a toxic victim mentality to keep him from starting a successful business from the ground up, and go on to invent many amazing high tech gadgets and computer software that he hired me to design.

But if you guys wanna marginalize all your accomplishments, or attribute your life's failures to the color of your skin. Be my guest.

 

But what's Trump going to do about it? What indication do we have that he gives a crap about it? Perhaps jobs will give people something to do instead of whining about chalk and Milo. One of the things that people thought was off-putting about Perot was his position on jobs. He was convinced there were already enough vacant positions which was numerically true. But few of them had upward mobility or even a full time schedule. He was too far above the street to understand that a teacher (they were having a job crunch as well) should not have to work in fast food. Many won't. The ones who did absolutely did not need a job lecture from Perot.

Trump has hung jobs out like a banner, but speaks little of a plan beyond strangling every corporation screwing Americans (a sophomoric idea of the sort that got Huey Long killed). It's misguided because no matter what tariffs he wants to put on corporations who export jobs or their products will just be passed on to the wholesaler and customers. I haven't heard Trump say anything that sounds like an investment in the sort of infrastructure that grows 21st century jobs. We've lost the 20th century, pull the lever all day, kind of jobs. Automation has created the employee who can do the work of 3 people without dropping dead on the shop floor.

His wall will make jobs for a couple of years while he attempts to squeeze Mexico for the bill. I actually can't wait to see how that goes down. It might even rival the political debate drinking game I love so much! Pop some freakin corn folks.

 

So Bernie was being racist against white people? You're grasping at straws if you think Bernie assumes that there aren't impoverished white people. It was a slip of the tongue, and one much less severe than saying Mexico was sending rapists across the border. There's something wrong with Mexico if it's sending rapists across the border, so if it wasn't outright racist it was at least xenophobic.

I think referring to black gang members as superpredators is symptomatic of racism when it's coming from the mouth of a privileged white person who is a part of an agenda that keeps African Americans down. As I said, I don't think Hillary is aware that she is being racist. She just doesn't appreciate how privileged she is and how difficult it is for African Americans living in the slums. First the system you are a part of dehumanizes a group of people, then you go ahead and call some of these people superpredators? That's racist.

What the hell was wrong with Michael Brown? He was an ordinary kid (when viewed from non-racist eyes) who was murdered by a cowardly piece of shit. Michael Brown was worth a damn. I don't know what you're talking about, but I think you watch too much Fox News.

So anybody is allowed to say any racist thing they want and we can't call them out on it because to you it's overused and rings hollow? Good luck with that.

 

I liked Bernie till this and a couple of other gaffs convinced me that he's even further removed from the "average American" than Hillary. And she's a wealthy elitist snob. His sophomoric take on correcting Wall Street must have had his campaign manager chewing his nails to the bone. He proved he survives in a bubble at the generosity of others. Much like John Kerry and Jeb Bush.

I'm curious where your measure of "ordinary" includes robbery. And the blood trails confirmed what happened, so the "cowardly piece of shit" was well within his rights to defend himself, cop or not. Brown was not a saintly little cherub on the way home from choir practice and you know it. Even "Hands up, Don't shoot" was proven to have originated on a lie. Do you still hold that slogan up? So what's "racist" about discussing his life of crime that clearly led to his death? Hold him up as an example of how NOT to live. It's a shame what happened, but that is how he chose to live.

 

Only white people are racist.

 

Fucken cis gendered honkeys!

back in high school i was walking to a class once and i kinda glanced at a white chick and she was like "what the fuck are you lookin at white boy!?" it was so odd

 

At Costa Mesa there were hundreds of protestors....at Cleveland there will be thousands, maybe tens of thousands. You ain't seen nothing yet!

 

If these scumbags don't like America they need to get the fuck out and go back to whatever shit hole they came from


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlWdlJGFsA4

 

You've already told me that you think a raise in the minimum wage will lead to unemployment, so sorry if I'm not buying your support for Bernie. He has always been for that increase in the minimum wage, so I don't think you ever supported him. And yes, the minimum wage is already being raised in places to $15. (And Hillary is trying to take credit for it, even though she's always been for $12 at most. She is a compulsive liar.)

From what I have read, Michael Brown had no criminal record, but people were trying to justify his killing by blaming him for the crimes of a completely different Michael Brown, and this is probably what you're referring to. What we do know about Michael Brown is that he was 18 years old, heading to college, unarmed, and Darren Wilson had no idea who the hell he was when he shot him.

Explain to me how the blood trails confirm what Darren Wilson says happened. Blood trails can't confirm that Wilson was fearing for his life. Michael Brown was running away from Darren Wilson when he was shot to death.

Finally, I didn't say there was anything about discussing his alleged life of crime that makes one a racist. But I do think it's wrong to say a person isn't worth a damn, even if they have committed a robbery (which there is no evidence that Michael Brown did.) Maybe if he was a serial killer or a rapist I could appreciate a privileged white person saying he wasn't worth a damn. In a country where black people are treated as second class citizens, though, I think it reeks of racism to say a cop is justified for killing someone because you don't think that someone was "worth a damn" because you think they stole a soda or something from the 7-11. I'd like to see a similar case with the same amount of evidence of a white college student being shot by the cops who you can refer to as being "not worth a damn."

 

Well I'm just gonna sit back and watch this all play out.

I swear though the subversion and anger really demonstrates how people are manipulated through their emotion and their attachment of their identity to things like status, job, friends, etc.

The general election is where I now turn my sights.

 

You're confusing his comments with mine. I said a minimum wage increase would lead to unemployment. I also made the "worth a damn" comment. I'm black. Am I being racist against Michael Brown?

 

In some circles it does. That's where we are now. Once someone has been adopted as a public figure, especially a martyr, any study of the obvious will be seen as an attack on their "spotless" character. Remember how critical everyone from Al Sharpton to Chris Rock was of Michale Jackson while he was alive? He was often portrayed as a traitor for "wanting to be white". But when he died, he became a "saint" somehow (for the record, Prince really was a saint).

You're absolutely right about the minimum wage. Had it been gradually raised to keep pace with inflation, the shrinking job base would have normalized. Instead, the greed of employers and their government lackeys delayed progress on wages for 30 years (or more). It made the correction to $15 inevitable and so sudden it will literally destroy many small businesses because they too fell for the cheap labor cost model as if it would last forever. What will happen now is that $15 will have people doing more work, much of it the cleaning and housekeeping that the old minimum wage people did. Suddenly secretaries and bookkeepers will be collecting trash and operating compactors. And guess who will be doing the landscaping?

As "conservative" as I have been accused of being, American wages are one place where I agree that the government and American businesses have dragged their asses and fattened their families while the rest of us endured punishing recessions. I'm convinced we'll see at least 1 more bad recession before the economy slides into a full depression that lasts more than a decade. It will likely cascade around the planet.

I think that's why Trump ran. He knows people like him won't stand a chance in a Bernie economy. Trump NEEDS the old, corrupt system to keep slogging along.

 

No, I'm not, he said the same thing. And I said you made the worth a damn comment. No. I can't say what you're being or I'll get in trouble.

 

Wow! So if you can't say something nice .......................

 

Excuse me, I think it's terribly wrong to say that Michael Brown wasn't worth a damn and so deserved to be shot and killed by the police. It's not like he was a sociopathic serial killer or a child rapist. I feel like thesamantha has a really cold heart, saying something like that.

 

This is what I call the social-economic policy, elastic-effect, delaying something when such a policy, even though a powerful minority group wants to delay it in their own interests, ends up hurting the world rather than accepting the inevitable and managing a smart smooth and graceful transition.

I'm really beginning to get annoyed with humanity's psychological flaws at the moment...like beyond pissed.

 

Our social programs suffer the same effect. Instead of waiting for the nation to integrate organically after the Civil Rights Act was passed (even though the democrats tried to block it, Strom Thurmond read the phone book to filibuster it) the decision was made to force integration and a major target was the schools. But there was another, more sinister reason for integrating the schools. With the stroke of a pen underperforming schools began to show improvement. This caused a flood of federal dollars to keep up the momentum since they now had "proof" that integration was working. They also got awards and prizes for turning schools around and making all the numbers look like they were improving.

All they did was move white kids into black schools and black kids into white schools. No special programs or efforts were made. All they did was transfer the grades around to boost the lower schools. They didn't give a crap about education, just making the numbers look good. The thing is though, much of that mindset is still in place, particularly in the schools. It's not about REALLY educating people to their fullest potential. It's about making a spreadsheet look good to get more government money. It creates a breeding ground for people like Beverly Hall.

 

Here's my most optimistic forecast: Hillary names Bernie as her running mate an beats Trump by a landslide. Then with the influence of Bill and Bernie she turns out to be a much better president than expected. Also the Republican majority is voted out of Congress, putting an end to the gridlock. Then our government starts getting things done.

Does it sound all naive and hippy dippy? Maybe, but like I said it's the most optimistic scenario I could come up with.