"right To Work"

It's impossible to be lazy on an assembly line. You either install the part/s you are supposed to --or you're soon in the parking lot wondering what happened.
Of course it was fine to come around with their stop watches and their suck-asses to try and add work to one station in order to eliminate other jobs. And to turn the line faster and faster until they were caught, among other things. That's just one union job I have had. Fortunatly, the days of employers hiring goons to rough up/beat/kill men for just mentioning unions, is past.

There are many reasons why employees benefit from being organized, the litany of which is known and shall not be repeated here.

Lazy people don't last in my trade and those types would be lazy in any job.

And I NEVER,EVER shop at Wal-fuck-Mart.

 

Can't get fired if you are union, I have watched this first hand many times! The backhoe capital of the world is in my backyardand father was a union bitch there. Fall down drunks, meth heads, lazy fucks etc can do as the please because of the union. The line slows or stops, the 'union' brothers stand together as a cluster fuck of dumb! You would never find yourself out of a job, you are union! The whole point of them, a couple smart run the lazy and stupid!

The company has to call union, get meeting set up, then they can attempt to fire you. But, being a lowlife unionite, you get countless chances plus rehad, the drunk tank, PTO to go on a bender and come back to a job! That's the union way!

The quality has already went down from lazy ass union, then after the relocate and it's outsourced, it's either same or worse. Reason it went down hill in the first place was lack of skill and motivation from American union worker! They deserve what they get!

Who cares if they exploit third world shitholes. They should be happy with anything that gets thrown their way! Why not exploit the fact, this guy did the same job a union lazy ass did, for a fraction of the cost and quality is usually the same. Or, ever less quality, you can still buy twice, and save money over the union part time worker!

Soon, there will be more and more mexifords on the road! Mighty white of a company who boasted no handouts, but are building another plant in mexico because, well it's a fucking ford and they need any advantage they can get compared to anything else! Yep, them unions are smart and strong! LMFAO!!

 

I don't know how you come up with this shit. I've been working since I was 14 at a gas station after school and on weekends. I worked farm work, surveying (union), a bank, plastics molding company, the oilfields (union), the auto assembly line, standard oil, driving truck,etc, and damn near 50 years of roofing. In EACH AND EVERY JOB, the useless, the lazy, the incompetent, were weeded out as soon as they were discovered. It's nice you're so pleased about jobs going overseas-----I'M NOT.
And if what you say is true about drug use--the fucker should have been shut down. I don't know what it is about you--I HAVE MY OWN SHIT--I CAN THINK FOR MYSELF, etc.
Not everyone is as wonderful as you, I think we can see that, but you, pal are on the wrong side.

 

I remember my 5th grade math teacher was way too disabled and incompetent to teach a class, but somehow the school system let her keep her job; she was blind as a bat and disorganized. She had to put all the math worksheets on a transparent sheet of overhead projector paper to magnify them on the pull-down screen so she could actually read the problems. It was unreal how blind she was. The school (possibly her union) paid to have a fancy reading machine that magnified the words on paper big enough for her to read; no other classroom had that. Students would get out of their desk and walk around when they weren't supposed to, and she wouldn't notice. I remember getting incorrect check marks on my assignments when the work was clearly correct. She would lose track of who turned in their homework, and then write detention slips to good students who didn't deserve them. I recall getting a detention slip from her, I tore it up, never showed up, and faced no consequences.

This may be a rarer case of a teacher staying on despite all her problems and disabilities. Maybe it's because she was old, been there a long time, and knew the right people to keep teaching when she should've been retired.

 

I think you'll find over the next century many countries will move to universal welfare, as unpalatable as that may sound initially

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4734445_The_Universal_Welfare_State_Theory_and_the_Case_of_Sweden

 

I think we will have to start planning beyond normal definitions of ‘welfare’ a lot quicker than ‘the next century’.

Technology is moving at such a pace that its strongly predicted that unemployment due to software and hardware improvements are going to grow increasingly likely. This will not just effect manual task but moving on into ‘professional’ jobs. It seems to me that we need to start think about what that type of world will be like and how its economy would work.

Because if we don’t I fear a return to some type of feudal model, with the vast majority of people with very little scraping around for what they can (peasants) a small well paid security and surveillance level to keep the peasants in their place (knights) and on top a very few very wealthy families living in their ivory towers(lords)

In fact the very way it's going at the moment…

 

10 hour work week for everyone! :cheers2:

 

I thought Unions were mafia controlled?

What's the FBI's position on Unions? They have a position on everything.

 

[SIZE=12pt]Unions that tried to improve the conditions of some of the poorest in society often found themselves the object of state repression from the very beginning. Demands for such things as an eight hour day were ignored or suppressed with force by private police forces, state militias and even the National Guard, there was the suppression of public meetings or free speech, the imprisonment of people without charge, many people including women and children were beaten up and others killed.

Also it was difficult for left wing groups to break into the political mainstream. The Democrats and Republicans have often joined together to exclude other political groups or party’s, since these are in the main right wing in outlook it has meant that the groups most often excluded have been left wing.

(That is why many people in the US don’t vote for what they believe in or want but just to keep out something that they see as worse.)

Against such opposition it is amazing that in 1912 the US Socialist Party had over a thousand elected officials in local government and that Eugene Debs got a million votes in that years presidential race (6 per cent of the vote, the envy of many socialist around the world at the time). It was able to get over thirty Majors into power as many legislators and had large numbers of loyal votes in many urban areas. It was a growing force.

But the repression of trade union groups and left wing political ideas continued.

For opposing WWI Debs was arrested and convicted to ten years in prison, from where he stood for President in 1920 receiving 913,664 votes (Nader got about half that in 2004 and Perot about double in 1992)

Another socialist opponent of the war was also sentence to prison Victor Berger however he did get elected to Congress but was refused entry this caused a re-election that he again won, but he was still refused entry.

In other areas like New York openly socialist representatives to the city and state - who had been democratically elected - were also barred from their posts.

Around this time many states passed laws banning the display of red flags (a communist and socialist emblem) and the federal government set up the General Intelligence Division headed by none other than J. Edger Hoover to monitor (harass) left wing ‘radicals’.

This harassment turned into repression during the late 1930’s with the establishment of the committee for ‘Un-American Activities’. This was set up to root out people whose view didn’t conform to what was thought of as American (basically thought policemen) and what the US political elite that had a grip on the system came to see those with left wing views as un-American.

It began by targeting those that advocated the overthrow of any government in the United States. Now think about that many people here have advocated the overthrow of the US’s government. As I’ve pointed out above it is the justification for many to have guns so they can overthrow the government of the US if ‘needs’ must.

It made it illegal to advocate or teach such ideas or help disseminate them in any way also any group that the government didn’t like could be targeted and forced to give the names and address of its members and the FBI illegally was authorised to tap phones and mail open peoples mail.

This suppression was stepped up after the war, and to give an indication of the mentality of those in charge of the ‘un-American’ purge this is a quote from Albert Canwell who was chair of the California state committee –

“If someone insists there is discrimination against Negroes in this country, or that there is inequality of wealth, there is every reason to believe that person is a communist”

And when the House Committee for Un-American Activities dropped its investigation into the Klu Klux Klan in favour of going after the left wing the committee member John Rankin said that "After all, the KKK is an old American institution."

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What followed seems very like a move by the American political elite to rid the US of what they saw as a political rival.

A loyalty programme was brought in for all government workers and anyone with left leaning views or associations could lose their job, be sacked for their beliefs.

People could appeal but the evidence against them did not have to be disclosed and accusers did not have to be identified.

Think about that – believing in equal rights or a distributive tax system could get you thrown out of your job?

Later it became even easier to sack someone for having ‘suspect’ (left wing) views, with the criteria for dismissal going from ‘reasonable grounds’ to only having to have ‘reasonable doubts’ about a persons supposed ‘loyalty’ and those that had been cleared under the lower criteria had their case re-opened.

And in 1953 departments were given the power to dismiss individuals without having to conduct any hearing whatsoever on the merest suspicion.

The Progressive Party of the time, which among other things advocated an end to segregation, full voting rights for blacks, and universal government health insurance, was branded a ‘communist’ party. Its leader Henry Wallace, along with others advocating such ‘radical’ ideas were then banned from speaking at a number of universities.

The purge spread from the government into other areas most famously the entertainment industry, but also academia were airing ‘communist’ ideas (that in practice meant many left wing ideas) could bring about dismissal and the law where the American Bar Association also brought in a loyalty oath, and lawyers that defended those accused of having un-American ideas could find themselves been accused of the same thing and put under investigation.

At the same time there was a constant stream of anti-communist propaganda but this very often made no distinction between what was ‘evil communist’ and the vast majority of left wing thought. And many Americans even today seem to make little distinction between hard line Stalinism and the wishy washy leftism of say New Labour - it happens frequently on these forums with ‘communist’ been thrown out as an insult and being directed at those with even the most moderate of lift wing views. And on the many right wing websites there are shrill cries whenever anyone says anything that isn’t firmly right of centre, and the kind of attack and slander once directed at commies has now expanded to include ‘liberals’. [/SIZE]

 

I still see it on the net, with comments about Sanders and his "dirty commie ideas." Some entertainers, such as John Wayne, Gray Cooper and others, "turned in" some of their fellow entertainers as 'commies.' Many were blacklisted, such as ----dammit--can't think of his name right now-----that wrote that great anti war novel, Johny Got His Gun. He continued to write under a pseudonym.

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/04/12/1514205/-Big-blow-to-Republicans-and-Scott-Walker-Right-to-Work-ruled-unconstitutional





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