I have his problem that when I snort anything, my nose gets really stuffy to the point that continuing insufflating, sometimes even days later is still affected where i feel I am not getting the best possibe bioavaliability from this route. I recently tried smoking it but havent been able to (IMO) get a good hit from the 5 or so times i tried. I followed methods and videos on the internet, virtually exactly, and didnt get any results. I just feel like Im burning away my dope, sniffing it even with a stuffy nose would have been better. and Ive been smoking weed for almost 15 years, so I know "how to smoke". I would know if I got a good hit. And also, injecting is out of the question. I am mortified of needles and syringes and blood, I have a legit phobia and am extremely squeamish to that kind of stuff, so you couldnt pay me money and provide the dope in exchange for me mainlining it. Its that serious. So my question is do I have any other alternatives? Only thing I think Ive heard of, atleast with pills. is plugging (rectally!), and Im simply not that desperate lol. Am I screwed? snorting this stuff to me is the only way to enjoy it. Please suggestions welcome! But Im also not trying to bust a mission (i.e. do it via some complicated, expensive, dangerous etc.. way). Thanks in advance guys.
***The title of this thread should have been H ingestion routes rather than injection routes, as I stated previously, I dont even consider it as an option. I couldnt find a way to edit the title or even delete the thread and start a new one with the correct title! I dont recall that being an issue before, or am I mistaken?
functioning pill heads use various maintenance techniques to unclog there nose....there is many types of nasal spray available for this problem.....by the sound of your post you will be having this problem for the rest of your life just like all the other pill snorters out there....good luck because it only gets worse.......lokk forward to yoiur thread about nasal ulcers in about 10 years or so....... nasal ulcers blow out your nostril in a massive blob of blood and snot....it is unavoidable with a poor nose maintenance routine
Depending on your tolerance and I would think by reading your post its not that high at all because most who uses dope and hard opiates will do so by shooting,snorting or smoking it and 99.9% if they use long enough will start intravenously using.So if I am correct and your tolerance to opiates is low or you have none what so ever you would probably get high from just licking that shit but be warned powder dope taste just like nasty bitter chalk, I use to hate the taste but now I love it. And by swallowing it you should easily get high but nothing like the normal administration routes named above. If I wanted to preach I should say don't even fuck with dope at all or hard opiates its not even worth the risk of possibly loving that shit and becoming a addict but you already know that I would think and nothing anyone says on a message board is going to change your mind anyways. That being said why not just clear your sinuses out with some steam or something and then sniff that shit up ? Good luck man and please from someone who is a long time heroin addict no matter what you do just please be careful heroin especially powder heroin is no fucking joke ! You can easily OD if you have little or no tolerance so just use a little at first and wait. Hope all goes well ?
I'm not much into opiates but you've pretty much mentioned all feasible ROA's with Heroin I think. I know some opioids can be taken transdermal, that is they get absorbed by contact with skin, but I'm not sure how or even if that's effective for Heroin. I get the impression that you are chasing the high though and it seems like Heroin has lost a bit of a luster for you. If you aren't going to Bang it, might be time to find a different drug or thrill, or just use with less expectations. What I've seen in recent media incidents, seems a lot of H is cut with fentanyl, I don't know the qualitative differences between different opioids but I know fentanyl can be lethal, so purity issues may be another problem.
hey whats up schoc its me kilo, just changed my screenname! good to see a veteran from these parts still around. anyway, my opiate affair is on and off, but always controlled and contained. as much as i like all drugs, i like my life and career more so i never let it get to the point of jeopardizing it. I like drugs to have fun, when you are doing it because you need it and not to have fun, then for me it defeats the purpose. with opiates, i guess i got lucky for having that needle phobia, because that probably is a different beast entirely, but i am certainly not new to it or have low tolerance as much as i wish i did, I've ran through bottles of 80s and capsules of dope in my days. and my tolerance depends on my use because i dont always have it around, until a week or two ago i had not touched anything since christmas time, but right now i have a good amount of dope so at nighttime or on weekends, i like to dabble. my nose isnt even messed up from abuse, its literally that ive been using moderately everyday for about a week, and it must be the cut or something but something is clogging my nose, because i still have dope that i wanna use but my nose is saying no lol like i said above, that luster was lost ages ago, to this day the highest i ever got was from oxy and tramadol lol, my problem is really from wanting to use for extended periods of time. i have no problems if i only snort one night, its that ive done that for several nights in a row and i still have dope i wanna use, but the stuffy nose is making me think Im not getting the full effect. Im not even entirely blaming it on that, i know the fact that ive been using makes my tolerance rise, i just usually know what to expect from that, this time it is seeming somehwhat unexpected and my only other theory is that perhaps the stuffy nose is preventing some absorption. in any case thanks for the answers guys, im just gonna stop for a few days til my nose clears up. its just that i dont have time or access to do shit like this often, so when i do i like to enjoy, and last night this idea was pissing me off lol
Kilo DAMN man its been a long ass time years actually ! So glad to hear from someone I use to BS with a lot on here back in the day. You are really the only old school member I bumped into since I started posting again. A few months back IDK maybe a year now I got a bundle of dope and during the few days I had off work I just started going through all the old places I would hang on the net and decided to start posting again from time to time on the old hip forums. Yeah Kilo from what I can remember you were never one who had an addictive personality even when it came to using hard shit.You unlike most realized the horrible consequences and ramifications that came from it and I can only imagine probably witnessed it also first hand with a lot of your friends.Fuck man I envy that and wish it did not take me 20+ years of misery & bullshit to get to that point myself now. Like I said in another post I still fuck around once or twice a month on average shooting my dope and sometimes I go months with out using it all depends if I have the funds or not. The difference is now I send someone into the Ghetto for me to get my shit. My ass is done going into ghettos to cop hard drugs.Fingers crossed I am determined I will never spend another day in a jail cell again and going into the Ghetto to cop drugs is the easiest way it will happen,so I pay a shit load extra now sending someone for me when I want to fuck around.Hey it cost a lot more but its well worth not ending up in cuffs.Anyways man so happy you are still around on here, I hope that dope you have no matter what way you use it gives you a fantastic high. You will see me around these parts again and like usual it will mostly he in the opiates thread :crowngrin:
I've started using a toilet paper roll cardboard cylinder instead of a straw and smoking it I think is beginning to work. Side question, if you get some H that's REALLY sticky for some reason, anyone has any educated guesses as to this may imply?
Kilo - If you are west of the Mississippi where its mostly all black tar heroin I thought black tar heroin is usually a little sticky,or am I wrong about that ? I truly have no idea since I have only seen black tar in person on the east coast one time and that was in the early 2000's. That 1 time it kind of reminded me of black hash though,it was a little sticky but not over the top and like I said kind of like a gooey like hash that sticks to your fingers and stains them resin. Yeah I don't know about black tar but smoking powder dope will work great off tinfoil with a straw or pen tube,etc. I know a lot of people when it comes to powder would rather sniff but before I started shooting I actually liked smoking my dope off tinfoil after I got home from scoring.Yes it does not last as long as sniffing but I use to get real good and fucked up from smoking and catch a solid nob. The only thing I found was smoking dope chasing that old dragon made me feel more nauseous then sniffing.But it really did not matter because for me puking from opiates was not that bad,its nothing like getting sick from drinking or puking from other drugs, You just feel it come on it comes up lol and then you are more fucked up after it comes out and feel fine.Shit I wish I could get that fucked up now to where I puked the more I think about it ; ) PS - The more I actually thought about it IMO I think smoking dope/heroin especially for new users or people who were not very opioid tolerant is so much safer then sniffing. Its because you do bumps and your average $10 stamp bag could not be smoked in 1 or 2 bumps.It took time and you could sit and then gauge just how fucked up you were after smoking a bump or two and know if you wanted more or were good. On the other hand 9/10 most users who sniff would just rip that bag open dump it out and just sniff the entire bag or half the bag and then see what happens.If it was strong high quality shit or even cut with fentanyl its too late.
Seems to me the only option is to smoke it. You need to learn how to chase properly. On foil with a strap or pen. Just because you didn't do it properly that doesn't mean you can't learn to. It's quite simple. You burn one end if the foil and follow the stream of smoke with the straw.
