Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Aug 21, 2015.

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  1. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I've got it! With all his anti-Muslim rhetoric, the countries of the Middle East should get together and say they won't sell oil to America if Trump is elected! Even if it's a bluff!
     
  2. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    They already did it. The US capitalized on oil shale technology and managed to ride it out without hitting European style fuel prices. Production was so good that sales of middle eastern oil dropped. They're still feeling it today. Back in the 70s the US wasn't prepared for the OPEC embargo, a hostile economic tactic, basically extortion.
     
  3. newo

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    Maybe, but the implied threat of an all-out Middle East oil embargo would dissuade a lot of would-be Trump chumps. Then again, Trump could probably convince his followers that we don't need the Middle East anymore.
     
  4. Tyrsonswood

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    Actually Trump has already covered this. He thinks we should invade and steal their oil....


    The Trumpetes think this is a great idea
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    What do you mean? Who did what?

    Not sure that's the only reason that globally oil prices dropped.
     
  6. Flagme15

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    We will see.
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/04/poll-a-quarter-of-republicans-say-they-would-vote-for-clinton-in-2016/
     
  7. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Overproduction did it. For a short while oil was actually plentiful enough to knock the wind from electric cars, which I think are the only kind of cars we should be driving. The US consumes a lot of oil, not just for fuel, but for all the plastics they are burying us in.

    During most of this political season it seems like oil has taken a back seat as have many of the wedge issues. I barely hear the usual whining about abortion and such. I'm glad to see the economy getting more play, but I still don't hear any real solutions. I see another Hold Your Nose vote on the horizon.
     
  8. GeorgeJetStoned

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    I remember when he said that. Pure arrogance and gall. There's no way Washington would approve such a plan. Americans don't like losing sons and daughters to oil wars. But we do like cheap fuel, an issue that doesn't get nearly enough airplay. Gas prices always seem to go down as the presidential election nears no matter who's in office.

    Trump's casino logic will ultimately betray him. The world already suspects the US of shady deals. Americans are always caught in the middle.
     
  9. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/17/trump_you_will_find_out_who_really_knocked_down_the_world_trade_center_secret_papers_may_blame_saudis.html#ooid=FwYnMxMTE69JY37WPkekCU7RuRqrGPuf


    Trump says if he is elected: "you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center."

    "It wasn't the Iraqis," he explained. "You may find it's the Saudis."

    "They have papers in there that are very secret," he also said, referencing the 28 still-classified pages of the 9/11 commission report. "But you will find out."
     
  11. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    I find it funny how many libs and independents are switching to vote for trump, yet the media won't cover it.

    No way in hell any sane person would vote hil liar y, lies so much she believes her own stupidity! Only two chances, slim and none, and slim left town!

    But keep up the 'high hopes' and false one sided polls that give you a small glimmer of hope. You will not stop punitive progress! If it comes to a riot, well I'm pretty sure you know what side has more fire power per household!
     
  12. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Yogi, do you really believe this crap you keep spewing, or are you just an internet troll?
     
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  13. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    Numbers don't lie, only libs/dems and hrc do!

    I see you spew pure bullshit all the time on here, mostly butt hurt posts and off the wall stupidity!

    I'm only a 'troll', because I don't buy into the free bernie bullshit or a lier who has blood on her hands already.
     
  14. monkjr

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    I'll say this, when "Anonymous" declares war ON Trump. I'd rather not be on their bad side, and if Trump counters them by calling "Anonymous" as part of the establishment...we're in some very weird common-man political territory.

    And this is a loosely organized group that definitely has a voice in the conspiracy theory, 'government has too much control' crowd.
     
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  15. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    But you buy into a snake oil salesman who says he will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it , be the greatest jobs president that God ever created, deport the almost 11 million immigrants illegally living in the United States, save Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security without cutting benefits, defund Planned Parenthood and yet take care of women, bar Syrian refugees from entering the country and kick out any who are already living here, and strengthen the military so that it's "so big and so strong and so great" that "nobody's going to mess with us." And he will pay for all this by imposing a tax rate of 10 - 15% on millionaires, a tax which has no loopholes.
    How do you plan to defend him after he doesn't make good on any of this?
     
  16. Tyrsonswood

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    Nope... Numbers don't lie. There's a shitload of fucking stupid people in the US.


    Trump is one of the biggest scam artists in the world and the Trumpetes eat that shit up and think it's real.


     
  17. GeorgeJetStoned

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    I still find it perplexing that the democrats chose to run with 2 old white people. It seems like Obama would have made the development of a successor a top priority. They'd surely win with a "Wise Latina" instead of two old white people. I wonder if these odd estimates about turncoat democrats is just a misuse of the dramatically lower number of minority voters at all this time around. In 2008 and 2012 records were set for minority vote participation.

    The real question for me though is where the fook is "The Clinton Machine"? Sure, Obama waxed them, but he had more popularity. And popularity often Trumps (pun) logic in politics. Face it, Hillary was more qualified in 2008. Oh well. So far the Clintons are using some of their old fashioned campaign strategies, like avoiding commoners and pissing off minority groups like BLM and LaRaza.

    As for Trump I wonder if I am looking at Alexander the 6th. Today's speech in Arizona, where protesters illegally blocked a highway, was full of Trump being full of himself. It was a recap of his victories and only lip service to the problems. He had sheriff Joe sitting behind him, of course. His Mob name would be Baloney Joe for the diet he feeds prisoners. And through the speech Trump referred to his dealmakers as "killers" and suggested they would "go after" these businesses (like Carrier) who move operations to Mexico for a 35% tariff. He referred to Mexico as "Little China" for the economic impact potential it has on the US.

    I think people should listen to what this guy actually says instead of shouting from the hills that he's Hitler, David Duke and Mussolini with a side of Hugh Hefner and Bobbie Brown. The character assassination is so loud you can barely hear him making a fool of himself. He says some seriously disturbing/stupid shit. I'm positive Trump will march us to war either overtly or covertly. He bragged about making the military into an even more bloated white elephant.

    I don't think any democrats would jump ships to support someone with his attitude about our nation or the world. At least Hillary will bribe the radicals into leaving us alone (worked for Bill).
     
  18. GeorgeJetStoned

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    While I don't think he has a chance, I do think Bernie is right. At the rate automation is dissolving jobs from existence we will absolutely need a national safety net to avoid economically-driven famine and the variety of internal conflicts that run parallel when a nation starts to lose it. I personally think life on the dole would basically be a boring slow death. Which is why I only stayed in the Navy for 1 hitch. That was 4 long years as a government-owned slave. I feel sorry for teenagers who enlist today.
     
  19. *Yogi*

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    Obama has done nothing but fuck shit up in this country, it can't get any worse! More so when the man himself has the $$! Obama didn't have shit and has scammed $$ out of fools for 7 years!

    If he follows through with only one thing, that's a lot more than can be said about hussein! But, it will be nice to see all the illegals shipped back to whatever shit hole they came from. The wall, just use all the drug money the Mexicans hope to get back to build the wall. Stop and scan anything going into mexico, there's the $$ in a year. Nothing out of pocket of an American.

    Many dem/libs are jumping. I know a lot personally and have always talked shit too them for being stupid. They are tired of working, so a bunch of lazy as handout lowlife can sit at home. Fuck them, hope they starve, but you will see jobs filled.

    That's all hrc can do, is pay off and bribe her way to ??? Prison most likely! She is a whole ball of stupid, her followers are not much better and or worse. She has the full backing of the Grand wizard of the klan and other racist organization's.

    If he don't come through like he says, well another all talk potus, like obama. I'm more than certain he will get shit done, or at least the stuff that counts. Strong military, dump the illegal trash and build a wall, I'd be happy with that!
    If you want peace, prepare for war! Or bitch out like hrc would and obama and pay them off many times over. Either way, it's going to get very interesting, America is tired of lies and scams, it needs a person with balls who will tell it like it is and have the $$ to put where his mouth is.

    Other than JFK and his family's moonshine/bootleg money, there has been no other person with balls and break up the bullshit and blow a whistle.
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Ugh, this back and forth is entertaining, but only to the point where I get a headache from it.

    I have to laugh at all the people who hate on Trump, yet express no concerns about that disgusting, warmongering, corporate criminal pig Hillary running the country. But of course presidents don't actually run anything. They simply say whatever their target audience wants to hear (all lies) to gain your support while they're campaigning. Once they're in office they simply get on TV and read off a teleprompter, and you're supposed to believe they're the person running the show. When do politicians ever stick to their promises? Almost never.

    If Trump gets elected (or rather selected) as the next president, he will not build a wall, and he will not bring jobs back that have been sent to China. Anyone who believes this is naive at best, and downright ignorant at worst. If it's not in line with what the REAL controllers want, it simply is not going to happen. Bringing jobs back to America and ending illegal immigration is not in the cards among the ruling elite who are hell bent on destroying what's left of this country.

    I have no doubt that the next president has already been chosen, and they simply put us through this phony debate leading up to elections to make us think we have a choice. I laugh at all the morons getting riled up who either LOVE Trump or HATE him. Both sides are completely moronic in my opinion. The people in power want this division. They want the masses polarized and arguing over this irrelevant, inane BULLSHIT!!

    Regardless of who gets into office, nothing will change for the better. When has it ever? Things will keep progressing in the same direction as they always have while we keep losing more of our freedoms to this creeping fascism.

    I said the same thing before Obama took office, and I was right. Obama is by far the most authoritarian, fascist puppet president this country has seen to date, and the next president, be it Clinton or Trump, will be even worse.
     
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