Spolied rich kids? Sure... that is why I cannot afford college tuition Child labour is wonderful for the country... read my other posts to see how I support it. I personally do not exploit anyone, my money does not come from exploited workers. Backpacking costs nothing, if you would backpack... you would know it Believe me, I care, and understand the situation much better than you do Yes... I will not be bothered by little kids... you must face reality, the world is cruel... but like I said, those kids are better off working... the only other alternative is hunger and death... I do not know why you cannot understand it.
That is exactly the problem. Like I said, many countries like that are intentionally kept from developing as much as they could because of the cheap labor they provide. Then there are people like you who try to make it sound okay by saying "at least they're not starving." The point is, they shouldn't HAVE to starve, or work their asses off to just barely keep from starving. There are billions of dollars in profit being made off of their labor, and I think the very least they deserve from if is decent working conditions, decent housing, and decent wages so that they don't have to send their young children off to work all day just so they can have enough food to make it through till the next work day. You speak of college tuition....even though it's expensive, at least it is an option you can pursue...there are alot of people out there who are lucky just to learn how to read and write and do basic math. You say that the world is cruel, but it doesn't have to be THIS bad. There will always be suffering, I'm not disagreeing about that, but if people like you would stop making excuses for big greedy business men there could be a lot less of it.
Stop your idealistic rhetoric. Ofcuorse it doesn't have to be this way, but it is impossible to fix it in the current roll of things. The country's economy is strongly dependent on the sweat shops. They cannot be closed down... GET IT! This is not about excuses, this is about letting go of your brainless hippie rhetoric and relizing that reality cannot be all roses!
'SirRubin' You need to relax and build better karma. Your whole economical dependancy argument is rediculous because there ARE things that can be done to fix this problem. If the north american consumers begin buying more 'social' friendly items then that can easily shift the problem of child labour. The companies will consider other options like fabricating in the country itself creating more jobs etc. The problem is the ignorance and apathy that has taken hold of the people into buying these sweatshop items. A national boycott could work if you really think about it.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that thinking of the well being of others was "brainless hippie rhetoric." Though I must say I like my brainless rhetoric better than your snot-nosed spoiled kid attitude. And yes, this is ALL about excuses. Even you admitted above that it doesn't have to be this way. But doing anything to help might require you to think about someone other than yourself, and lord knows we don't want that. As long as you ALLOW this shit to continue and make excuses for it, it will continue to happen. Your economy is dependent on your sweatshops.....so what? Does that mean that the people working in them don't deserve better than that? Jeez, child, no one is saying that people should just stop working. But at the very least their working conditions could be improved. Call me names, call me unrealistic, but it could happen if people like you would get over your "I'm better than everyone else" attitude and demand it. THAT would be the only unrealistic thing here. Just imagine that, dear rubin giving a shit about someone other than himself and the things mumsy and dadsy can provide......right, and then hell would freeze over. And don't think that just because you give might old clothes or blankets to charity proves anything otherwise. Any old shmuck can do that. It takes something a little deeper than that to actually DO something for others, and I'm afraid thats a quality you just do not possess.
My attitude? The only thing it is is realistic. Ofcourse it does not have to be this way... nothing in the world HAS to be the way it is. Better conditions? Get this: The only reason sweatshops are established here are the cheap labour... the conditions are godo enough as they are, I've visited enough sweatshops to tell you that. Bettering them, for no reason, would cost cooporations money, and then they would leave... distroying the economy, and making thousands die out of starvation. I give much more shit than any ignorant American out there, but I am also way more aware of the restrictions and conditions... get it! Logic and common sense are qualities you do not posses
whoever started this thread needs to get a grip. This a a public forum on the internet. You think starting a thread bitching about some guy that doesn't affect you at all will help? You've created more drama in the process. Next time if you have a problem with somebody let it go or prepare to debate yourself to death. You can't fix or change anyone or anything on the internet. This place is a hell of a lot better than some public chat room. If you think you and your opinion are so much better then him and his, why do you care so much?
Child labor exists primarily because most of everyone besides the countries that have and support child labor complained about getting off their asses to work to make the same products. You can't say we didn't already have our chance... now they've gotten their chance and they're making use of it. The only way that could provent this is globalization of the monetary systems. But the problem is, there's a lot of shit behind that in religion and nobody would back it anyway because they say that's one more step towards the apocalypse and all. hmm. I don't support child labor, really. But I realize there isn't a whole lot that can be done for it at the present time, and it's just going to get bigger and bigger. You really can't help what country you're born in and it's not just snap your fingers and immigrate. To tell you the truth, I'd love to have a job right now, but right now my town is going through a big growing phase and I'm going to wait a year or two because most of everything is going to close down and new businesses and stores are coming in. It's just a big pain in the ass living here. I imagine I could live in Syria, Kuwait, Israel, Palestine, Iraq, Iran... etc. etc. but I don't, and it's kind of hard to help something you can't control.
I don't support the abuse of children or overworking them, but in some countries, you need your kids to work to help support the family. A lot of countries like that don't have enough jobs that require education, so sometimes school for them is pointless and a waste of money. Some places don't even have schools! So I think having them work isn't a bad thing. It's when they are overworked, abused, given dangerous jobs, and used for prostitution that needs to be stopped.
