What Makes A God?

I'm not great at reading charts to be honest. I thought I would give another shot at it. Charts are best utilized on a case to case basis is what I have been saying from the beginning. Getting a rough look at someone's personality profile as a Psychologist doesn't mean the psychologist knows everything about their existence.

 

If you want to know why I can be too general, I would recommend looking up Mercury in Sagittarius.

I challenge anyone to look that up and basing off of who I am in regards to you guys knowing me on this forum, I ask you to dispute how i don't contain the characteristics of Mercury in Sagittarius.

 

Why? Whether or not mercury is in saggitarius has no bearing on how imprecise you are. It is how precisely defining your language is that determines how specific it is.

It could be that the most generalized statement is the most accurate.

 

Well I'm not really a great chart reader. When I do Writer's, I will be giving it to a real Astrologer who's been involved with it much longer than me. I wouldn't consider myself a skilled Astrologer.

 

There is no best utilized. There is utilized. Astrology serves only interest.

 

The commentary most accurate is the one is the one not at all inaccurate. If there is one inaccuracy in your commentary then you have compromised the accuracy of your entire thesis.

the problem you are having chinacat is not that you are not a good astrologer but that your statements aren't accurate in detail

 

The same thing that made Spiderman and The Incredible Hulk.

 

There's a whole lotta backpedal after that nose dive.

Might be worth taking note of.

 

I think a study could be conducted using our new, funk data harvesting technology. Compile massive amounts of data involving world events, local and global over a time span of around 50-100 years(some planets move fuckin slowly from out vantage point). The amount of data can be allowed to grow exponentially by using a modular system, so when new technology or methods of analysis are invented or discovered, they can just be plugged into the parent system.
Algorithmic analysis could present an average of all events in side a multidimensional database, allowing a clear viewing of economic crises, war, famine, peacemaking, communication spikes etc etc... and a correlation can be drawn(or maybe not) between the flux of the human situation and planetary movements. Social media would be an excellent source for all social relations.

It is a grand claim that Earthly events could be predicted by examining the relationship of our position in space with the rest of the planets, so grand that the method of enquiry should match it so. This would require such an enormous amount of data we can't even conceive of it.. but we've reached a point where technology is able to allow this, the only problem is the level of investment for an operation of this scale probably won't come around anytime soon.. but hey, who knows.. in 10 or 20 years time you could probably do something like this from home if you were granted access to(or sneak in) to other data farming projects.

You could pose it as useful for government intel. That'd work.

 

Seems like people figured that out in previous times as well and poured it into a great symbolic story:

 

Like I have said, I'm not that great of a chart reader...the actual experiment is going to regard me giving it to a real astrologer. I haven't even been told what I was incorrect on, and I haven't tried to account for the house positions. But looking at that chart I would say that with a Capricorn Ascendant and Moon that the person has a very goal-oriented mentality.

Let's first break that down, is that incorrect or is it not? And if not, please explain what this person consists of instead.

 

Here's my chart without Chiron and other specifics. A basic chart.

http://alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/astrobot.cgi?INPUT1=&INPUT2=&MONTH=11&DAY=23&YEAR=1989&HOUR=12&MINUTE=52&AMPM=AM&TOWN=Naples&COUNTRY=USA&STATE=FL&INPUT9=&Submit=Submit


Libra Moon - At the end of the day, peace, lack of conflict, and fairness is very important for me. I despise conflict in general. My internal nature wants peace and is sensitive to unfairness or negativity. Libra's key notions regard Diplomacy and fairness, and this is a very harmonic sign. Harmony is another word that would come to mind. I also have many times where I stare at something in a poetic manner, such as a garbage can on the street, and see the inherent beauty of it. It's a very personal and private thing when I go through these moments, and Libra and the Moon both imply both beauty (Libra) and your private self (The Moon).

However, I have Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio - These are the two rulers of Scorpio, so i have a very keen interest in anything dark, mysterious, esoteric. I also detect or attempt to detect what people really mean when they're saying something. I'm always searching for the hidden motives. This is also a great alignment for lifting Kundalini energy. I have read that this conjunction is specifically good for that, and read that after I already naturally got both interested in Kundalini and Astrology. I have an intense buildup of energy within. While slow to anger, this conjunction is like a ticking time bomb, especially if i sense unfairness. This is perhaps the most aggressive Scorpio conjunction. This also accounts for my brooding and dark side, and my way of scaring people and accidentally shocking them as I quietly enter the room without them realizing until they turn around and jump. I have a strange ability with this. There is sort of a villain-esque energy to Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, and I have been very much known to scare people with my intense stare. I can post pictures if you would like.

Since you haven't met me in person, it may be difficult for everyone to fully sense into this. But it is undoubtedly part of my existence.

All of these are next door to my Sun and Mercury conjunct in Sagittarius in the same house. A much more positive sign. This is a mutable fire sign, as opposed to Scorpio being a fixed water sign. Sagittarius would account for my broad-stroke language, much more jovial and people have even said almost borderline-blind optimism, visionary and grandiose ideas, the constant need for mental and physical expansion (the love of open spaces, getting high, expanding my mind, anything to do with expansion), the love of traveling, and going along with life one moment at a time and a lack of a distinct plan. Also, my enjoyment with philosophical debate would absolutely stem from here.

Sagittarius regards Religion, and my Libra moon mixed with my Sagittarius is where my exploration of religions and various philosophies comes from. Sagittarius is a mutable sign, so I'm very much able to adapt myself to different people, surroundings, etc., which goes hand in hand with the love of Traveling and explorations of cultures that is Sagittarius. Sagittarius also rules sports and competitions, and i still have a deep love for sports, and have played many sports since i was a kid.

My exploration of Spirituality, Psychedelics, and Esoterica are fueled by both Scorpio and Sagittarius in my chart. Sagittarius is always seeking expansion/freedom at any cost (drugs, and Magick are both attempts at this), and the Truth, while Mars-Pluto in Scorpio is the detective who actually will be willing to dive into the deep depths of Consciousness and borderline-madness to find it, no matter how dark it gets. I can post my arrest-story on LSD again if anybody needs to read that. I have had some DARK trips in my day, but still had the courage to not let it stop my investigations. The interest in Ceremonial Magick also rests here.

In the House next door, I have Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus all conjunct in Capricorn. These are the outer, generational planets, and speak more in regards to generations than specifically to your personal self, but it can also still be personal. This is a part of my chart that I feel will get more and more important as time goes on, as i have been more in touch with my first and third house up to this point.

But in general, one sign I feel tapped into a bit would be Uranus in Capricorn. Uranus is all about revolution, radical and sudden change, freedom. Capricorn is rather the opposite. Capricorn is very practical, goal-oriented, conservative. With Uranus in Capricorn you have a combination of both, which being a generational thing would regard to my interest in bringing a practical application of esoteric ideas to the real, concrete world of material reality. Also, my interest in 2012, countercultures, and trying to reshape popular culture would stem from here. While my Sag would account for the studious research into these ideas, Uranus in Capricorn would account for applying those studies to the world. My way of doing this includes but is not limited to Rock Music.

In the 5th house I also have Venus in Capricorn, which essentially means that I want a loyal and committed partner, and is a rather traditional and conservative outlook on being in relationships.

My Jupiter is also in the sign of Cancer (my current and past girlfriend happen to be a week apart in the sign of Cancer). Jupiter is the ruler of Sagittarius, and this would account for my keen interest in Cancer women, even though it is a difficult combination with Cancer and Sagittarius. But Jupiter in Cancer would imply that I feel that I can expand in the nurturing environment of a Cancer woman. But I have also been known to hurt these women with my words. Cancer's tend to be very deep-feeling, and regard the emotions with high value, so my blunt language of Mercury in Sagittarius, triggered with sensing unfairness by my Libra Moon, and activating my extremely explosive anger with Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio (which would be the detector of unfairness) has caused me to greatly hurt these women with my words in the past. Cancers tend to at this point emotionally shell themselves off, which I have very much experienced with both of these women before.

This is a general look at my chart without getting too heavy into the house positions, which I'm still trying to understand more.

 

Can't think of 2 persons who (because of their own peculiar focus points) deserve eachother more in a debate than Mr. Writer and Chinacat

 

1) while being practical and methodical, goal setting isn't a strong point
2) perfectionist.....LOL not by a longshot
3) craves attention....nope, actually the exact opposite
4) being diplomatic with others is called being polite and doesn't everyone value fairness?
5) isn't everyone aware of injustices in the world? we may not agree about what is an injustice, but everyone notices it when it happens in their world. the rest of it already answered
6) Uhmmm, that pretty much applies to every person on Earth, doesn't it?

 

Well like I said, I really have never met this person. Getting to know your own chart is a life project. I have shown how the signs apply to myself. I'm not great at reading others' charts as of yet.

 

but, as you have said previously, you shouldn't have to meet them.

Isn't it time to concede that the value of astrology is just what thedope mentioned, that interpersonal exchange that uses the astrological crap as the "common ground" in which to essentially conduct psycho-analysis.
In that respect it is essential to have that face to face relationship.
But remember claims were made that all the info required was the birth particulars, by and by astrologers at large.

and what about astrologers who do charts for people online or via other correspondence without face to face interaction? You saying they are fakes?

 

Actually I have been the one saying that the face to face is the most essential way to get a good grasp.

Yes, there's lots of surface Astrology, unfortunately.

Apply all of this to a Psychologist and it's the same deal. Without the interaction, it's going to be more difficult to understand the person.

 

as far as your chart is concerned, who cares?
None of us know you personally to confirm what the chart says, so you could tailor to anything.
I provided you with details of one of my kids and I will honestly acknowledge any uncanny results and if specific enough I will concede that there is more than meets the eye to astrology.
But as of yet all you have done is make excuses for why your initial results were completely wrong and then post your "chart" as if that negates your errors.

 

yeah, but psychologist don't make the claim that they can get info from the stars and from the outset it is understood that a face to face relationship is required.
Not so with astrology.

 

I haven't even given the chart to the Astrologer. And we are talking about one of your kids. In the same light as Psychology, their characteristics will only come into crystallization as they age. So what may be incorrect now, may not be later on.