Goodbye U.s.a For The Great Country It Was!

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by I'll Be Waiting, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I reckon the native americans had the same thought as you. (original poster)
     
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  2. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    I think it is. The most common definition of immigration doesn't mention the word choice.

    Some of the first white residents of Georgia were prisoners, convicted of crimes in England. Other immigrants around the world in the past were often running from war or famine; no real choice to make, other than death.

    If you had the chance to move to another country for free, would you do it?
     
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  3. I'll Be Waiting

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    I think a lot of it's do with the fact that white men find it easier to get sex with the foreign chicks!
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    It is a silly argument

    If you look into americas early, how many wars there were even before the war of independance

    How close you all came to not being, thanks to waves and waves of immigrants

    Country.was made on immigration
     
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  5. themnax

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    i don't know about great. i think there are some real problems with greatness as a concept. for countries or anything else. the america i grew up in, from rosiveldt, to raygun, was pretty darn good i a lot of ways. but there have always been things, both good and bad about every country. and they always keep changing. it isn't the rise and fall of countries, and or ideologies, or even religioius beliefs, that create the conditions we experience and have to live in. all of those things are really excuses. usually excuses for screwing things up in the process of trying to impress each other, or addiction to the pseudo-sophestries of excitement.
     
  6. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    What, you don't want something like this in your country? (or any other European country)

    https://www.************/240638706109428/videos/455583904614906/?fref=nf

    Somethins is rotten in the state of Denmark.


    And lol, this is London?
    https://www.************/240638706109428/videos/452823314890965/


    If you want to live peacefully, you are welcome. But if you want to force your own rules and your culture (for example Sharia Law), then gtfo.
    The problem is not "they're taking our jobs".

    Also, what's wrong with Poles? Don't they mostly just work and mind their own business? Same with Indians.
     
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  7. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Bad. Very Bad. It's known that NO COMPROMISE is the way of those people. Frankly, I don't think that can happen here as it is happening in England. It's very disturbing and needs to be brought to an end. Respect the country that has so generously allowed you to immigrate into and enjoy the potential freedoms.( that you actually seem to hate.) In such cases as is shown,round 'em up--ship 'em out. I MEAN IT. What kind of a country do you Brits and others want?

    Their stated goal is world wide sharia law---this is the beginning. They're using freedom to END FREEDOM and taking advantage of the largess of countries other than their own to spread their poisonous brain washing.
     
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  8. Piaf

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  9. Cannabliss88

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    Ok...thats why they call us the great melting pot isn't it? If you put all kinds of chocolate into a big pot and melt it that's what happens.

    I doubt it will get that homogenous but I look forward to it nonetheless. By then all the untra-conservatives will be forced to start their own country.
     
  10. Wizardofodd

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    I was thinking the same thing. They may have the nerve to try to stage a relatively minor attack here or there but they don't have the balls to try that shit in the US. I don't think they would be met with a lot of civility and understanding.
     
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  11. Karen_J

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    :cheers2:
     
  12. BlackBillBlake

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    It's weird here in the UK. The right wing media and the government keep harping on about EU migrants such as Poles etc, and say very little about the Muslims. Maybe they are afraid to. Maybe they fear a reaction. I don't know.
    To me it makes sense to have other European nationals here. There are minor cultural differences, but nothing like what you get with Islam.

    I think the public in general are being conned by anti-European politicians. Also, maybe like me, many live in areas where there are very few Muslims. They tend to live in communities in large cities, so if you live in a small town as I do, you don't really see what's going on. A one hour drive to Birmingham, and you do see it. Whole areas dominated by Islam, large mosques.

    Definitely a problem for the future, and I worry that we could see a lot of trouble over this.
     
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  13. Karen_J

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    Maybe they're worried about being perceived as supporting religious intolerance. Maybe too many people assume that all your Muslims are liberal; the kind that gets along well with others.

    Treating Islamic fundamentalists the same as any other religion seems a bit like adopting a "pet" bear and treating him like a dog. Bite the hand that feeds him? You're more likely to get your face ripped off.

    In the US, we're more likely to err on the side of caution (and public safety) and assume that every Muslim is the violent, intolerant kind. It's not always easy to tell.
     
  14. BlackBillBlake

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    Over here you get accused of 'Islamaphobia' if you are critical of Islam. I find that offensive, as a phobia is a kind of neurotic mental condition. It just goes to show how far this has gone.

    I don't think any of our politicians know what to do, so they do nothing. They don't want public sentiment against Muslims inflamed, but they know well that extreme views are quite widespread.

    More trouble is sure to come.
     
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  15. Karen_J

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    The price of receiving tolerance is giving it to others. Or at least it should be that way.

    I wish you the best of luck in turning your situation around. You're going to need it.
     
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  16. Meliai

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    I haven't really seen the same problem with secluded enclaves of Islamic culture in America that I have heard about in the UK and other parts of Europe. Maybe it is different in the bigger cities where it can even be hard for Americans to find a sense of belonging, but in my geographical region every Muslim I've ever met was integrated fairly well.
     
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  17. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    Poles are generally well behaved, altho there are some rotten apples. And they generally don't integrate at all.
    The main problem is they are short term economic migrants. Their wages were one eighth of Britain's when they arrived. So British employers can pay them below the min wage and they're delighted. Infact, after 5/6 yrs work and saving, they can go home and live like relative kings. Unscrupulous employers know they can treat Poles as their bitches, so British workers (esp with families to support etc) don't have a chance of work in many sectors. Foreign workers are often able to avoid social insurance and income tax.

    There are similar Indian economic migrants who undercut British with relative slave labour. (They're even living in temporary metal shacks in people's gardens jammed with workers)
    But can again go home where they have enough money to retire after 8/10 yrs or whatever. There are good and bad Indians. Some utterly refuse to integrate to even a small level, are obsessed with the discriminatory caste system, see fraud as a bit of fun, and have bizarre customs like "honour killings" etc
    The bad Indians do nothing for Britain as a single country, and fan the flames of disharmony.

    Then you often find that the immigrants who do stay for any length of time will only employ their own nationality.

    As you know, I'm half East European, I'm not really fussed about Britain, and none of this has affected me personally ever. But I'd have to be pretty selfish to say "fuck the millions of Britons who are long term unemployed and millions who are under employed". Yes the Muslims blew up 60 or so people. But huge numbers of British are harmed for life by the excess ie millions of Poles, Indians, Africans etc too. These Brits feel their lives are pretty much worthless - we're often talking highly educated ones too.

    What do these British have to do to get whats rightfully theirs? Live in a shack, speak Urdu, send their family to Romanian, then retire to Calcutta?
     
  18. themnax

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    if you don't like immigration, restore indiginous soverignty.

    (no modern nation is "rightfully" anything)
     
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  19. AstralBear

    AstralBear Feed the Bear

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8
     
  20. Flagme15

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    Not all republicans are stupid, and not all democrats are smart.
    It's just that the republicans(who are mostly white)are seeing their standing in society decline. They don't like progression. They prefer to live in a simpler time, which I can understand.
     

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