Do You Think People In The Military Are Heroes? Are Brave?

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  1. naughtygirl12

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    It's horrible that people forget that human life is so precious and to let you country use yours to protect others has lots of honor. Yes there are those who use the system but there are many men who have a sense of duty. And many of them end up fucked up because they chose to help. can you even think about wanting to be an emt in the army there are some that go in the field and pick up mangled half dead or dead guys and bring them back and the guys that do that have a survival rate that is extremely low because they are going into unfriendly zone. How could they not be hero's they singed up knowing they are probably going to die. So please have some respect. Every country has a army there will always be a need to have one history shoes this very well if you don't like them feel free to be one that gets killed by who every wants to bomb us or kill us then you can't complain about soldiers protecting you. Better yet move to the middle east and if ices rolls buy and just to happens to kill you you can rest easy. To error is human. We don't do everything right but done chastise the wrong people for it.
     
  2. Joker8six

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    Unfortunately =( i think military science has transformed into this disgusting, manipulated half dead - wheezing barley breathing - red headed step child monster thats blind. the decision maker has extremely oppressive nature (and if u don't agree your rich). in previous times ive read that there seem too be a sense of duty/ honor/ respect/ skill/ sincerity/ service - but i havnt seen that. or read anything like that exists? and it sucks cos i dont think that the soldiers quite under stand what they are getting them selves into. tricked. and only find out the "extremely oppressive nature" and start to realize that all their shifts are about maintaining trade routes after its too late.
     
  3. Pieceofmyheart

    Pieceofmyheart Grumpy old bitch HipForums Supporter

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    There are good, brave people in every job....there are assholes in every job....

    Anyone who lumps all Military together is simply stereotyping.

    And...unless you have been in, served some time in the Armed Forces, you really do not have a single clue about it. You are just flapping your ignorant jaws about something you "read" or "heard".



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  4. Moonglow181

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    If there was no one to fight any wars, would there be any?
     
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  5. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Soldiers are not automatically heroes, but they can certainly be heroic.

    They can also be cruel, or be made to perform cruelties.

    It would be nice if they all had different jobs.
     
  6. rambleON

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    no and no.

    I am an air force vet of two foreign wars. I Am not proud.

    Most people I knew in the AF joined for the money and jobsecurity.

    The military is a criminal organization.
     
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  7. themnax

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    i think people are dumb to want conflict. i know "conservatives" hate peace, because it would put them out of a job.

    i have simpathy for those who get conned into killing each other. i respect their pain.

    but i don't think killing and dying make the world a wonderful place.
     
  8. Bud D

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    I don't have any heroes, military or not. I do think it's kinda dumb to look up to military people because they have expensive or cool looking weapons. I am not sure if the military are tools or the public that looks up to them are tools. They are probably mutually equal tools as there are programs used to control mass media (.psyops). I have had bad experiences with military people, some times were nice but they were not heroes but assholes and dicks.
     
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  10. broony

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    I not selling my soul when their is nothing to buy.
     
  11. Joker8six

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    "And...unless you have , served some time in the Armed Forces, you really do not have a single clue about it. You are just flapping your ignorant jaws about something you "read" or "heard" and i love you"

    -what ?





    Remember, my head is like an ass, everyone's smokes crack in it.
     
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  12. broony

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    Shut the fuck up.
     
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  13. guerillabedlam

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    My grandpa's on both sides of my family were in the military. One fought in World War II, the other in The Korean War.

    I lived with an extended family growing up including my Grandpa who fought in World War II, so I did find him a hero of sorts, perhaps more due to the fact that I grew up with him. I did find his war stories fascinating too, but he had PTSD and I never really felt any desire to join the military myself.
     
  14. themnax

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    my dad was in world war two. i was born only a few years, much less then a decade, after it ended. i was in the air force during viet nam, because that was the only way available to me, to keep from being drafted into the army. they respected my wish to remain non-combatant and i respect them for having done so. no law required them to. they could have sent me anywhere they wanted to.

    but armies aren't something the world wouldn't be better off if there weren't any of. the real barbarians have always been the concorors.
     
  15. Pieceofmyheart

    Pieceofmyheart Grumpy old bitch HipForums Supporter

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    Kiss my butt Joker :daisy:

    ah...just checked your profile...a kid....a kid on a skateboard. pppffftttt
     
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  16. SouthPaw

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    Conservatives hate peace?

    A Democrat put us in WWI.

    A Democrat put us in WWII.

    A Democrat put us in the Korean War.

    A Democrat put us in Vietnam. His Dem. successor orchestrated a massive escalation. A Republican ended it.

    Desert Storm - the stated goal was to liberate Kuwaiit. We accomplished our goal and left.

    Afghanistan - 9/11 demanded a response. A Dem. President wouldn't have ignored the WTC bombings. Congressional Dems all supported the invasion of Afghanistan.

    Iraq - Yep, that was a war of opportunity. Shouldn't have happened. Bush negotiated a complete withdrawal of US Forces back in 2006 (voted on and approved by the Iraqi Parliament) to be completed by 2010 that Obama likes to take credit for.

    Current Democrat in the White House escalated the war in Afghanistan, defended bombing civilian villages in Pakistan as "a moral imperative", orchestrated the overthrow of the governments in Egypt and Libya handing both countries over to a terrorist organization (Muslim Brotherhood), is funding and supplying rebels in the Syrian Civil War to include ISIS, bombed opposition groups in Yemen who now control the country, and has been stating since 2008 that Iran is entitled to nuclear power (we'll see how the current negotiations go but not holding my breath).

    You might want to rethink your statement. Dems have quite a resume when it comes to waging war.
     
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  17. hotwater

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    Actually the Zimmermann Telegram precipitated our entry into WWI

    It was a Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor which precipitated our entry into WWII

    Actually the United Nations Security Council voted to send troops to South Korea after an aggressive move across the border by North Korea backed by Chinese and Soviet forces

    To be continued.....


    Hotwater
     
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  18. SouthPaw

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    There are always a string of events leading to war. The US didn't have to respond to Mexico (yeah, a real threat, we took Mexico City less than a century earlier). Hawks were looking for an excuse to get involved and they found it. We weren't obligated to take the lead or make any real contribution in Korea especially considering we essentially controlled the UN so did more to make it happen than anybody else. And Japan is not a European country, yet we went to war with Germany and Italy.

    Good luck explaining Vietnam away. Democrats own that war.

    You're missing the point anyway. I don't disagree with our entry into WWI or WWII and fully understand why we fought in Korea. I was pointing out the idiocy of the "conservatives love war" comment. My point stands.
     
  19. themnax

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    you've never heard of a conservative democrat? really? i think you seriously have no idea. i didn't mention political parties for that very reason. we have no liberal political party in the u.s.
    you also i think, completely and deliberately miss the point i was getting at. so to keep it obscured with smoke and mirrors you drag in the names of the dominant political parties.
    this is a complet nonsequiter.
     
  20. Bud D

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    I've never been in combat, so far I am disappointed in what was once a heroic outlook towards the military. When countries lose wars people don't see them as hero's. I suppose if I was in a war I would be dissapointed or find my mates as heroic.
     

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