Are Americans Racist?

Empirical evidence huh... you have not imposed any objective measures on your empirical evidence. What you are referencing are subjective observations with no accounting for cognitive bias. You don't get that?

Yes, all the black people I've known were intellectually inferior. They don't problem solve well when dealing with complex situations, they jump to faulty conclusions repeatedly, they were unable to grasp even the most basic computer programming concepts, when mathematic requirements branched out past basic arithmetic they struggled mightily.

Within our species, (all that is required of members of a species is the ability to still procreate with one another), there are measurable differences in brain size, twin rates, and developmental speed. In general, r selected organisms reproduce more often in larger litters, develop faster to account for less parental involvement and have smaller brain to body ratios. To what do you attribute these physiological differences? If we remained on isolated continents for 1 million more years we might very well have evolved into different species and lost reproductive compatibility.

 

nerd, most African Americans have Caucasian and native American lineage as well. So in order for you to draw any conclusions from the statistics you're posting, you would have to prove any traits you deem inferior were not passed down from Caucasian ancestors, and you have no way of proving that. Therefore your point is unscientific and moot.

 

Maybe he's afraid of getting perceived as a hindu.

 

Pure African ancestry results in an IQ average of 70. Mixed ancestry raises that number to 85. Half white - Half black kids are around 90-92 and the white average is 100. Do the math. Look up the Minnesota adoption study. Easier for me to link it I guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

Let me just highlight this, once again. None of you ever seek the data. You don't look for studies, you don't look at world maps. While the various data points I've brought up are by no means 110% knockdown arguments individually, all these seemingly disparate data points point toward common conclusions. This is the project of consillience.

I bring up a study, the counter is anecdotal evidence. I bring up a map, the counter is emotional appeal. I bring up physiological divergences and the reply is moral invective. Just in case any of you missed this key distinction, I've now made the divide explicit. Whenever you seek to counter an argument, try to categorize it within this pyramid.

http://www.thewildbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Grahams_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg_.png

None of you have passed the test of providing supporting evidence.

 

Ok--say you're 100% right. Now what?? We can't isolate them--that's already completed. We can't just kill them--can we? Send 'em back to Africa? Re-institute slavery? WHAT. IS. YOUR. POINT?

 

Be aware what's happening the next time a Mike Brown happens or a Trayvon Martin happens or a Tawana Brawley happens or a Crystal Mangum happens or an OJ Simpson happens. Knowledge is power and we're at a point right now where no one has an accurate picture of the facts.

We absolutely need to stop telling black people that until they have equal incomes with whites and Asians, it means the world is prejudiced against them. Be aware the next time a vote comes up where one of the issues is affirmative action. Don't be part of the problem of misinformation, if you can do even a little bit to educate those around you into a position of erudition, you have done your part to help society orientate itself toward solution seeking.

My point is we're having a backward reality crammed down our throats from kindergarten onward. My point is, if you're lost in the jungle, it's better to know you're lost in the jungle than to be happily, ignorantly trekking deeper and deeper into the foliage, putting distance between yourself and civilization.

 

nope, I dont look up statistics to prove racist views. You are correct. I dont see a point.

 

Do you seek statistics in any area of life? Are you more of a factual, scientific person or a relativistic, ambivalent person?

 

You shouldn't regard statistics automatically as facts. It's not nearly always the case. I think you are misleading yourself or try to mislead us.

 

In the pursuit of facts, they are far and away the best we have. You shouldn't trust the theory of gravity, it's just a theory. There's still room for error in germ theory.

If one side of a debate can cite 10 studies that backs up their case, that is a considerable amount of evidence. If the other side can't find a single shred of data to refute what has been put on the table, it's very telling no?

In courtrooms there are different burdens of proof. In a murder trial, it's beyond reasonable doubt. Just below that is clear and convincing evidence, then a preponderance of the evidence, then substantial evidence, then some credible evidence. Considering the history of Africans and their intellectual ability, have any of you provided credible evidence to justify your egalitarian perspectives? I know it's really hard for most people to break out of their microscopic point of view and take the discussion into a panoramic frame. I want all of you to treat each individual fairly, and I'm sure you do. I also want you to have some grasp of what makes for productive public policy. I want you to not be profoundly misinformed when you cast your vote.

It's been 50 years since the civil rights movement and we have not seen an equalization of intellect. It's time to reassess the situation and figure out why the trend is heading in the wrong direction. No one wants to talk about it, and it's understandable why, but willful ignorance is not the way to go.

 

Some statistics are some of the best in the pursuits of facts and some are not. Gravity is already a different matter: I don't have to trust anyone's theory of gravity, I can just rely on my own experiences with it. Where it comes to social stuff it is often more an indication than pure factual. It is not exact science and so neither are the numbers exact. It is pretty much a fact that automatically equating statistics with facts is a good way to set yourself up for failure Extensive personal experience seems at least as good in the pursuit of facts.

 

ALRIGHT. YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT. I'LL ASK YOU AGAIN--WHAT NOW.






There are so, so many facets to bringing ANYONE up to snuff educationally--but especially with human machinery that have been treated so terribly. Did you know that miscegenation was law in many states until the 60s? That blacks were being lynched and dragged behind pickups to their deaths recently? Do you know about re-contruction and why it failed? You are obviously one of a type that has been around forever. You make points that are valid only in that they are results of the long standing belief that white is right and blacks are stupid by BIRTH, so why waste time on them. What do you want done with them, other than as foils for false superiority?

 

I don't know why I bother with this bullshit. There have always been racists including in my family. They're dead now, so they can't do much more harm, which is as it should be.

My ancestors "owned human machinery" in Missouri and they (not me) were not ashamed of it. Fuck 'em and the rest of the racists for helping to keep the human race just as stupid as can be.

 

Me neither. Probably because we care a little bit about people taking what he says for granted.

 

Yeah, I guess. His (and others) only point is that they are just born dumb, hopeless and not worth wasting time helping them to catch up. Fuck that.




(Oh yeah--thanks for the cool one. Fuck the bar.)

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy_h4Lc5QSE

 

I like to think of myself as the type of person who tries to see the whole story. While statistics can be important in putting something into a factual context they rarely if ever tell the whole story.

But that's beside the point. I didn't say I dont like to use statistics to support various views, I said I didn't care to use them to support racist views. You're using statistics to support your own predetermined racist agenda and its as ineffectual and pointless as presenting stats on the variation in SAT scores between redheads and brunettes. Who cares?

 

My own predetermined racist views? So you're intent on injecting motives into my head? How low you go on the pyramid. http://www.thewildbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Grahams_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg_.png

No I'm very late to the game in acknowledging racial differences. The Ferguson ridiculousness is what prompted me to examine how much blacks were actually being oppressed. What I found is what I posted here. Who's more racist white people or black people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsnuhz-Kb7k

 

meh. Ferguson was mostly staged, oh and you're an asshat

 

Perfectly put.

 

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