Ask Me A Question About Conspiracy Theories

I believe a multitude of intelligence agencies spanning multiple countries were involved in orchestrating and carrying out 9/11. The intelligence agencies have created and infiltrated terrorist groups for decades, so it's not hard to instill a radical ideology in people from war-torn countries, then use them to do the bidding of those who most stand to gain by simply duping them. It's an old trick. Al-Qaeda as we know it is nothing more than a CIA front which utilizes useful idiots we call "extremists" to create a convenient cover story for the so-called War on Terror and justification for a militarized police state on the domestic end of things.

 

Due to the wtc extreme size, removing asbestos would of taken 20yrs.. it was easier to bring them down in a made for movie fashion because to be honest and you know it, that was fucking awesome!!

 

Killing thousands of people is awesome? Yeah, ok.

 

did the hoax king get a heart this morning ?

 

Of all the documentaries I've watched connecting the dots, this one nails it the best. Very concise and informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc

 

I may not have a heart, but I certainly never endorsed mass murder.

 

never said you did..

but I simply dont give a shit about something that happened14yrs ago.. if seth macfarlane can make mints on 911, I can say it was fucking awesome.

 

im going to assume you watched that episode or just that clip, lets say that they did get a light source the correct distance from their miniature set. how would that change the results?

simple google seach:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/the-trash-weve-left-on-the-moon/266465/
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/09/06/7632435-astronauts-tracks-and-trash-show-up-in-moon-photos
^ the title to the second one is interesting, its title is "astronauts trash and tracks show up in moon photos"
these pics are from an American moon satellite, but a few countries have and have had moon satellites, all able to take pictures and study the landing sites.

if it didnt happen it would be pretty easy for other countries to prove. all they have to do is analyze the manned landing areas, unless the united states made a robot to stamp astronaut tracks on the moon (which dont disappear for a very long time) which would be a cartoonish level of ridiculousness lol.

its hard to say what evidence would sway me, but it would have to be pretty strong evidence. i think if you evaluate evidence for a real landing and evidence for a hoax, theres far more evidence for a real landing.

that idea is straight up wrong, other countries especially ussr would not have easily noticed that. easily.



i would like to go into the stuff left on the moon a little bit more, just to drive the point home. here is the official catolog of appollo experiments on the moon in great detail from the official nasa site:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/RP-1994-1317.pdf

it goes into great detail about the design of the american reflectors which were placed by hand on the moon. diffrent from the russian ones which were placed by rovers. now these reflectors were designed and created by teams of scientists and their bosses and their bosses etc, etc.
if it were a hoax dont you think one of the employees would have said "hey wait a minute, this is designed to be placed on the moon by robots ( like the russian designs)"

^good example of an oxymoron

 

certainly an interesting perspective. i just think it would be hard to keep a secrete across a multitude of agencies spanning multiple countries. but not impossible i guess.

on a slightly different topic, if you do a google search on public opinions and polls, i think you would have to agree that a nice chunk of islam would be considered extremist. im purposely not going to post individual polls because theres actually thousands and the wording and percentages all vary. but my point is, when about 23% of the world population, or 1.6 billion people are muslims, even a small percentage of people who want sharia law world wide is scary. as a reasonable person you must agree that there has to be at least some real, dangerous, and well funded extremist groups that are not just a cia front.

hahaha, i just cant stop laughing at this. ive said some pretty arrogant things here, and ive read some smug things on this board, but this really takes the cake. like wow. every time i scroll i just gotta chuckle. like not a text lol. like laughing in real life. in the Christianity forums especially, im pretty sure ive offended alot of folks, but this is a new level for hipforums.

just out of curiosity, nerdanderthal, im pretty sure in real life we'd be friends, but what does a smart guy like you do for a living?

 

Not really. Intelligence agencies are all about keeping secrets. Furthermore, they all work together. Nearly everything they have done over the course of history has been veiled in secrecy. These organizations are almost the epitome of the word SECRET. Then once you consider how these organizations, like all hierarchical organizations, are compartmentalized, it's easy for one hand to not know what the other is doing while still achieving the objective as seen by those at the top.

 

well if that were true, you'd have to wonder why people like me and you know this stuff. do you think there are any real extremist groups that are not a cia front?

 

Indeed.

Consider for example, the two finalists for the candidacy of President of the United States in 2004.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCBheCXIC4I

The powers that be make heavy use of secret societies. Secret rituals, and acquiring dirt on members help ensure compliance. We haven't had a real President with the American people's interest at heart since JFK. We've had handlers of the "leader" of the US. The President is a spokesman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c7eVxure0Y

A cabal, or more likely several cabals have taken shape, molded by the [SIZE=13.63636302948px]modern banking system and [/SIZE]Military Industrial Complex, as foreshadowed by Eisenhower just two years prior to that JFK speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

 

The closer the light source the less parallel the shadows will be. What mythbusters did actually gave credence to the idea that the pictures and video could have been shot at night in the desert, sayyyy by Area 51. Or on a soundstage. It would have been incredibly easy to fake. If there were visible stars, it would have been nearly impossible to fake with accuracy. Astronomers would have had a field day picking apart the mistakes.

As I said, no visible objects are able to be observed from any telescope on earth. Not even close. You can get the same pictures I saw through NASA via a google search, but once again, you're putting your faith in NASA. Never a straight answer. You're free to do that if you wish.

If you choose to dig in and investigate NASA you'll find them to be the opposite of transparent. It's a big shift in one's worldview if you commit to the investigation and understand the plausibility of a hoax and the benefits one is afforded from a perception of expertise.

We'll learn a lot about the notion of manned spaceflight through the Van Allen radiation belts if and when manned Mars missions become a reality. If I were a betting man I'd put my money on the date being steadily pushed back for one reason or another. I don't think we'll see any kind of progress in deep space flight with humans before 2040.

I do HTML / CSS coding and Personal Training.

 

holy shit! i know your gonna take this as a joke, but i do the same thing! i do html/css coding. my friends say i should be a personal trainer because im the fittest one of the group. i always said i my next business would be personal training if my current business fails. isnt that fucking crazy?

as far as the myth busters experiment goes, your wrong on that one. the clip that you uploaded, if you listen to it thats also one of joe rogans arguments and the guy explains that even here on earth shadows will not be parallel due to our perspective and also the imperfections of the surface. this is the concept they were trying to get across with their model. so the light source didnt have to be far away, there just needed to be a single light source and on uneven ground they show how shadows can go in different angles regardless of the distance of the light source, thats why it happens here on earth just like it does on the moon.

if we use math to illustrate this:

therefore the further the light source the more parallel the shadows will look, but since the surface is uneven, it will never be exactly parallel.

doesnt matter if the telescopes are on earth or close to the moon. not the point. the point is, can they actually see the objects on the moon, and the answer is yes.

as far as the information that comes from nasa, i guess thats all we have to go on. one of the things about nasa is that they are very secretive and they should be, just like the cia. they are dealing with very advanced and potentially dangerous technology which is a matter of national safety.

while i think its good to question the information they give us, we have to consider at what point can we really differentiate their real info and their supposed lies. if you just dont accept any of it, we might as well say that nasa as a whole is a farse and the sky is just a giant led screen made by the government to fool us all.

 

Here is one. Todays cabalic conflict has extended across human history and is not just a modern effect.
The players are originally the disciples and the pauline interpretation. The pauline interpretation perpetuating the patrmonial proprietary model. The jewish idea of the accumulation of wealth, verses the disciplined approach of manifesting the good. It extends then to the gnostics and the orthodox and further to the catholic church versus the protestent or humanet movement. It moves further along in history in the form of competing feudalities of the renesance and further into the colonial expansion era involving the two as englsh and the spanish. The english protestant and the spanish catholic. There are probably twelve what you would call imperial families on each side of the issue that are ensconced in the four directional quadrants of the globe which are north south east and west, which is the sign of the cross or what crosses us. If you notice in the western hemisphere the north is populated by the english protestant puritan and the south by the spanish catholics. Some historical cabals exist in the form of blue blood lines like the medici, banking, and the cortesans of france,of course the jewish estate, just to give a few examples. We have the roman conquest moving north through europe and the thrist of the norse coming down from the north. The contest is one between those who keep secrets and those who insist on acurate personal accounting. In the world now they popularly expresed as the fina ncial industry and the occupy movement

 

Washington DC - London - Rome - Athens - Babylon - mysterious Egypt

The Money Masters are as adaptive as they are manipulative.

 

exactly. Our heritage is biological not the abstract cabal of the quote unquote civilization of the institutionalized. To institutionalize is something we do with the insane.

 

The measure of peronal accounting that stands up to the slave masters is ciurage and a higb degree of personal integrity

 

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We know this stuff because a lot of it is obvious upon actually examining the presented evidence. Shit doesn't add up. The story does not check out. There are glaring inaccuracies and anomalies right in our faces. It doesn't mean we know the inner-most secrets of how it all went down.

As far as there being any real extremist groups, I would say maybe, but it's highly unlikely. If there's any extremist groups that are grassroots creations, it usually isn't long before they're infiltrated, taken over, and steered in a given direction granted they have any real influence or potential to have a real influence. If not they're allowed to do what they do (either because they serve a hidden purpose or are seen as harmless), or are dismantled by military or law enforcement.