Psychedelic Bump XXXIV

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by Octopus.Tenticals, Apr 19, 2014.

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  1. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    that's cool, CS. i would be shocked if i felt that much 2c-b. i think i either have a naturally high tolerance to that one, or i've been dosing degraded/impure material.

    or maybe it's because i never really dosed 2c-b after a long time without psychedelics.

    ...come to think of it, i've never really tried a low dose of 2c-b (lowest was 20 or 25 mg). i dunno how good i am at discerning mild psychedelic effects, but THAT could be because i've been dosing them somewhat frequently for the past six years. i "only" tripped 9 times in 2014 - fewest number of trips since 2007.
     
  2. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    To me that's alot. I usually only trip once or twice a year.

    That being said, does anyone else find that they only trip of even think about psychedelics during specific times of the year? As for me, tripping season seems to be winter. I understand tripping in the summer would be fun and almost preferable to most, but I get so busy in the summer with work, fishing, being outdoors, and being at social events surrounded by people, that I find I lose interest in it. When autumn rolls around, I spend more time alone, indoors, in the comfort of my home. I get more introspective, more philosophical, and usually that's when I start thinking about drugs...
     
  3. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    yeah 9 times is a lot that's why i put quotes around "only" :)

    i think it's pretty easy to think about psychedelic drugs if you happen to have them in your possession, and therefore also easy to (over)do them sometimes.

    i'm with what's probably the majority and think more about tripping during the summer though. being outdoors is the single best part about tripping for me, so summer is when the outdoors are more accessible. summer also seems to be when things like LSD are more available, and certain events like festivals and camping lend themselves very well to tripping on LSD :)

    i think a good amount of tripping would be once per season. even that is a little much maybe, but it would be a step back from what i've been doing.


    some drugs seem to lend themselves to certain seasons more than others. i think we did something on the forums before like a drug for every season:

    spring: miprocin (because spring is really colorful and miprocin gives me nice trails - i would also "accept" something like 2c-b for springtime)
    summer: LSD
    fall: mushrooms (mushrooms bring an "earthy" vibe and the colors from mushrooms seem to match up really well with fall colors)
    winter: 2c-e (i first tried 2c-e in the winter, so that's probably why i'd choose it. 2c-e also makes me really hot if i take it during summer, so i can go outside on 2c-e in the winter and not worry about over-heating. 2c-e makes everything sparkly, so that goes really well with snow too)

    what would your psychedelic seasons look like?
     
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    I would actually pick shrooms for all seasons ..

    only a few synths make their way around here and LSD is way to rare these days.
    DMT is to short lived but easy to deal with all year round..
     
  5. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    most synthetic psychedelics don't really "make their way around here" either. but somehow they make there way to me :)

    it HAS been awhile since i tried any DMT...
     
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  6. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    I could see how DMT would go well with any season.
    When your whole reality melts before your eyes, the temperature outside is kinda irrelevant haha
     
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  7. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    My first experiences with 2C-B were not good ones.

    The first time was at an amusement park - 25mg of 2C-B and 25mg of 2C-E. I went on the biggest roller coaster they had, sitting right at the front - that felt amazing - but then I got the idea to eat lunch afterwards and ended up puking. The visuals were nice though.

    The second time I went to a show with a friend (Michael Franti). We both took about 35mg of 2C-B, and neither of us felt anything for the entire show. Then we got out and smoked a joint and the entire world become a collage of pastel colours, coupled with extreme stimulation and discomfort.


    Anyway, after those experiences I decided to see what a low dose was like. It's very functional as far as low dose psychedelics go. I was reading somewhere earlier today that some pills were sold with only 5mg of 2C-B to produce "ecstasy-like effects". Although I would wager that was 5mg 2C-B combined with MDMA.

    This is a different batch of 2C-B than those first doses came out of. If I am not mistaken, that first batch was 2C-B HBr, while this batch is 2C-B HCl. And I did read online that the two different salts give different effects.

    It also turns out that 2C-B was used as an entheogen within certain groups in Africa - "The medicine of the singing ancestors"!
     
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    I sort of have to stick with all naturals since after my helicopter ride. nothing more worrisome than having <3 trouble tripping.
     
  9. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Well if you are missing your 2C-X drugs, then you should get yourself some mescaline. :)
     
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  10. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    Speaking of Mescaline, My cacti have been growing for like 3 years now and they are nowhere near as big as I would like them too.
     
  11. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah I feel you on that one.

    I've left my cacti in the care of my family when traveling internationally in the past few years, and so far out of the many that I had originally grown, 2 are left. And they've been near dead many times.

    I just hope the theory about stressed cacti being stronger is true, haha.
     
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    hello cacti.. surprise buttsex..lol..
     
  13. ragamala

    ragamala Spiritual Entertainer

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    I've never had a seasonal association. Just for logistical reasons, I've only ever done 2C-E and Miprocin in winter, and Shrooms and Mescaline in the summer. LSD I've done both ways.

    Had a beautiful Miprocin trip in April (which is still winter here, but warm enough to ride a bike outside), on Bicycle Day, so that was kidna springy.
     
  14. ragamala

    ragamala Spiritual Entertainer

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    I am really enjoying the Terrence McKenna video. I wonder if everyone would be willing to compare/contrast with McKenna's description of the DMT experience (it starts around 1:12:45). For my part, I only had three DMT experiences, all on the same night, and only one that MIGHT have been a "breakthrough" type experience. Although we weighed out doses of 40mg, we never succeeded in emptying the pipe. I suspect I never ingested more than 25mg. Recalling the experience, I would say the following:

    -I do remember a body-sensation being a precursor to the mental phenomena...I wouldn't call it "anesthesia" as he does, but more a flushing or warming on the skin.

    -I don't remember "The Chrysanthemum". There were 2d CEVs prior to the emergence of 3D CEVs, but I don't recall them being a single flower, nor do I recall them being orange. My closed eye CEVs (prior to entering the 3D space) were more geometric/jewelled, like a tesselating interlocking wallpaper of gems, and they were purple and green primarily.

    -His description of "the tunnel" corresponds most closely to my experience...perhaps this is the furthest I progressed. Particularly his description that "the walls and ceiling flux and come to meet each other"...this is spot-on to my experience. I did not experience the tearing apart or the progression of rooms, rather this fluxing 3D-space was my stationary arrival point at the peak of the trip.

    -It also somewhat matched his description of "the dome," particularly the highly-reflective futuristic surfaces (I remember thinking it was like the inside of an Apple store, with shiny white-plastic panels lit from within). I also definitely felt that it was underground (it made me think of a Subway stop). I don't remember encountering discrete entities there, but I did have a feeling of "a presence," a third party or intelligence (which I personified as "the drug") which I felt nearby but which never introduced itself. His comment that the DMT entities are "made of grammar" (and "they speak in a language which you see") reminds me that the walls of the 3D space I visited were running with an unrecognizable language, like a news ticker flowing over the surfaces and around the edges--I realize, though, that this is not the phenomenon he is there describing. I don't remember thinking "I must be dead," or anything of the sort. In fact the whole experience (apart from the nervousness of the take-off) was very euphoric and wonderful. I felt totally safe.

    -Since I didn't encounter the entities, I can't relate at all to his descriptions of their behavior...the production of gifts, the metamorphoses, etc etc. Definitely didn't speak to them and certainly didn't utter any noises out loud during the experience.

    -He makes no comment on the open-eye world. I did open my eyes at the peak of the experience, and I found the whole world to have taken on a cartoonish aspect...my friend looked like a computer-animated version of himself, and the whole room had an unidentifiable "carnival" or "jester" -ish atmosphere.

    He does say at the end "your experience will differ."

    Also the line about the entities "speaking in a language which you see" reminds me of the line of Ginsburg's from Wales Visitation, "Of mouths and eyes interknit ten centuries/ Visible orchards of mind-language manifest, human".


    Anyone else care to compare/contrast, or comment on my experience?
     
  15. ragamala

    ragamala Spiritual Entertainer

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    Decided I'll be doing 14mg Miprocin later today and try combining it with weed for the first time
     
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  16. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    I literally did not water mine all summer. They all survived, but if I would have watered them weekly during the growing seasons, they would be much bigger by now. I should be taking better care of mother peyote so that she takes good care of me when the roles are reversed!
     
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    The dieffenbachia is a beautiful, if sometimes confusing, group of plants. The so-called dumb cane gets its name from its milky sap, which is a mild irritant and should be kept from bare skin. The sap can cause temporary loss of speech...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieffenbachia
     
  18. thismoment

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    Low dose scopolamine is used primarily to decrease the secretions that sometimes cause a "death rattle" in the last few days of life. It's thought to be better than suctioning because suctioning can be physically and mentally traumatic - and the secretions usually return in hours or less with suctioning. Not that common actually.

    Not to disrespect anyone's experience, but from the perspective of (my own) old age and more experience than most people with death (combat, hospice work, refugee work, family, and clinical/academic study) I am completely confident saying that dying in the western world now is far, far better than it was 30-40 years ago. It is true that there remain serious deficits, e.g., depression is too often untreated. Pain is much better managed these days - especially at major medical centers with palliative care teams or hospice care.

    As for psychedelics near death, psyches have the potential to make huge changes in people who are despairing, can help in healing relationships, and are even helpful for some people with difficult to treat pain (probably by helping with spiritual distress). However, they should be taken early in the process vs. days or hours before death so that maximum and lasting benefit can be gotten for the patient AND family. Still, HUGE THANKS to Aldous Huxley and Laura Archer (his wife) for setting us on the path!

    The effects of MDMA in these situations hasn't been explored, but think for a moment what could happen if someone took it with a loved one shortly after diagnosis/prognosis and before serious debilitation!!! Wow! WOW!! Can you dig it!!!

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  19. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    Good post.

    I'm just saying this in case anyone doesn't know (which would surprise me, because everyone here is well educated on those matters), but they HAVE been using psilocybin to treat end of life related anxiety/depression (i.e. when someone is terminally ill and knows they only have X months to live).

    I commend you for what you have devoted your life to TM. I don't know everything about you, but from the bits and pieces I've read on here over the years, you seem like a ''next level'' selfless individual....Much respect to you!
     
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  20. thismoment

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    Thank you Shivaya. If I'm next level, I'm in good company around here.

    One of the major motivations in coming back to psychedelics was that I'm a lot closer to the end of my life than the beginning and I was thinking, what will I do when I turn up with cancer or whatever and realize I need to trip? Go hang around a college campus?

    What a great scene to come back to, though obviously different in many ways. Just a great, great scene. All set.
     
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