Another Fake Isis/cia Beheading Video

Fake or not radicals want us dead. Put our proud men and woman on our border instead.

 

why would the cia fake the videos?

 

It's questions like this that tell me people are not even awake.

Why would the CIA fake the videos? To instill the fear needed in the public to justify a long, drawn-out war, which will include ground troops.

To me ISIS is a fucking joke. Anyone who thinks they pose any kind of threat to America is a moron, especially when all the big terrorist attacks have been state-sponsored false flag operations.

Anyone who has their facts will know that out our government provided funding and training to ISIS in the first place, just like we did with al-Qaeda.

 

so your saying that this american agency made fake videos to scare the american public to justify a war?

im not saying that its not possible, but you would have to explain why it came through channels that were established by the ISIS organization. also, you would have to explain why ISIS would take responsibility for these beheadings if they were staged and did not happen. if it was fake, what happend to the reporters and their families? also, i think if it was staged, ISIS would say something about it wouldn't you?

they also have videos and images of them executing alot of people. i think everyone agrees that these are real, so why wouldnt beheading 1 person be outside of that scope?

i think all the evidence shows that it is real, unless you have some information that shows otherwise.

also, why do you think its the CIA? why is it not the FBI? surely you have some information that links them to the videos?

hows that for awake?

 

Anyone can create an organization or group, call itself ISIS, and release videos online. It doesn't mean that it is ISIS. ISIS is just a name our government came up with because it always needs an outside bogeyman to fight, just like the name al-Qaeda derives from a CIA database on Mujahideen fighters which we funded to go up against the Russians 30+ years ago. There is no proof that any of the "channels" through which these videos have been released are connected with ISIS, but then again ISIS could be just about anything, including our own government. To me it's just a name they bestowed upon some rebel fighters who just so happened to receive funding and training from our own government. The may be wreaking havoc within the Middle East, but they pose no threat whatsoever to American interests until American interests become involved. All these attempts to link ISIS with domestic terrorism are bullshit at best and amount to little more than fear-mongering.

Why would ISIS take responsibility for these videos? Well, they haven't outside of the videos themselves. But even if they did, I still don't trust anything the media reports because the media is in bed with the government to create propaganda designed to manufacture consent. The media and the government are essentially one and the same entity at this point. The media is nothing more than a tool to churn out propaganda and mold people's minds according to what the powers in control want.

What happened to the reporters and their families? That is an unknown, but the government has endless amounts of money at its disposal to pay people off and establish new lives for them in some remote and distant country. I am sure it would not be the first time. But that is just a theory. In truth, I do not know what the outcome of the reporters is, but I do know that Mark Foley was linked with USAID, which is a known CIA front. The CIA and Mossad has been known to use deep-cover agents disguised as journalists and "aid workers."

Why the CIA and not the FBI? Because the FBI works domestically. The CIA has its hand in every country. The use moles to infiltrate and radicalize certain groups abroad, and the FBI works within the US to set up patsies and call them "home grown terrorist cells."

Our government does nothing but lie and murder people, yet some of the shit I read indicates that some of you are so fucking brainwashed that you don't stand a fucking chance of ever waking up and getting a clue. The truth is not what the fucking media presents to you. Wake up already!!

 

so isis is just a name.

they haven't taken responsibility for the beheading videos, but very strangely (if they where fake) did not take the opportunity to point out that they are fake and were not in fact their work.

its unknown what happend to the reporters.

and your only "connection" between the cia and the videos is that they "have their hand in every country".

as you can see, you don't really have any evidence that the videos are staged by the CIA. therefore i think it would be logical to assume the possibility that they are real.

 

Because ISIS is not some ultra-vast, ultra-sophisticated organization the media is leading you to believe that it is. ISIS, in reality, is just a bunch of "ragheads" with US weapons in the middle of the desert who the US have declared their latest enemy, when we are the ones who helped to set them up to begin with by providing them training and resources. This is fact -- not theory. 90% of what you hear about ISIS on the news is just made-up garbage to make you scared so you will submit to another prolonged war and an increased loss of your freedoms at home. I am so sick of explaining to people what should be obvious. This is why Obama (and Bush before him) were elected into office twice... because we are a nation of gullible idiots who place football at the pinnacle of their daily lives. People don't strive to understand shit outside of what the controlled media forces down their throats.

Sure, it's possible to assume the videos might be possibly real. But knowing what I know, and just by looking at how utterly laughable these propaganda videos are, I would wager that they're fake as a three dollar bill. The first thing I ask myself is who has the real motive in releasing these ridiculous videos. If the goal of ISIS is to scare us, then we would be witnessing actual beheadings within the minutes of these videos. Every beheading video released by "ISIS" thus far has been nearly identical. Same desert. Same orange jumpsuit. Same agent with a British voice. Same calm delivery from the soon-to-be victim (obviously read from a script). Same absence of blood upon the neck arteries being severed. Same fade out before the actual beheading can even be witnessed....

This shit is so asinine you have to be almost retarded to believe it.

 

ok calm down. take a deep breath. i agree with you.

even though i agree with you.... you are missing the fact that you have not stated any real evidence that the video is fake.
your reason for blaming the CIA for the videos is that "they have their hand in every country".

now im a pretty sleepy guy, like you said, but you have to get up pretty early in the morning to fool me with that type of logic. its bad logic, you didnt think it through, and you thought nobody would call you on it. SURPRISE!!!!!

 

also, this is kinda strange, you started your post with "because" as if you were responding to my thread but actually ignored it. are you asleep bro?

 

The evidence of the video(s) being fake should be obvious to anyone with critical thinking skills and a modicum of knowledge about how our government operates and how propaganda works. It should be self-evident. You don't need proof beyond that. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it's probably a duck.

 

i just want to point something out. you edited your post and added this second part in which you see my logic and agree that it is possible that the videos are, in fact real. i think its because you had no choice but to realize that you have no evidence and your logic was flawed.

im not pointing this out to make fun of you or anything because, like i said, i actually agree with almost everything you said. the reason i am pointing this out is so that in the future, when you are in any public forum, be it online or in real life, and you treat other people with respect and always keep in mind that there will always be people out there that will know more about any given subject than you. saying that im not even awake isnt cool bro. as you can see i just made you change your mind, publicly. ouch. so lets keep the personal insults out, and the logic in!

 

lets follow your logic:

why would the CIA want a drawn-out war which will include ground troops. remember that the CIA is an organization not just one person.

 

The logic behind ISIS doing them is just as mind boggling. Do something that will fast track America retaliating and bomb the crap out of them. A cunning plan

 

Neither ISIS nor the U.S. government are ducks your lameness.
That the videos were edited is obvious. That the videos are produced by the U.S. government is not at all obvious to any one with critical thinking skills but of course seems it seems to be obvious to those with such beliefs. Belief can cause you to bear witness to preposterous things. You have offered no evidence for what you say other than your suspicion or belief. You quack like a duck. Of course it seems self evident to you as we cannot escape the effects of our own thinking and what we see is equal to our own regard. That the ISIS videos are edited is not proof of U.S. government involvement. That the U.S. government has a history of deception is not proof of U.S. involvement in the making of ISIS videos. Fact is ISIS has been artful in the use of propaganda through social media.
I suppose by virtue of your style of critical thinking we should find Japan complicit because they filmed the video on a Sony camera.

 

The machismo is there for recruitment of the stupidly virile. It is an asymmetrical warfare tactic.

 

I think there's maybe a .02% chance of the beheading videos being real, and that's about the extent of it. I simply said what I said to sound a bit more agreeable. This is a weird world, and I have gotten to the point where I feel as though anything is a possibility. I go with my intuitions more than based on what people on the news tell me to think. I look at the government's track record and their extensive history of lying and staging false flag attacks to get the public to capitulate to what they want. Sorry, I just don't believe most of this crap we're being told about ISIS. It immediately sets off my bullshit detector.

That's YOUR opinion, and so be it if it is. But let's face it, you're basically trusting of a government that lies more than it tells the truth. I don't trust anything this government says or does, especially when they put out such bad propaganda. It's logical that anyone who isn't trusting of the government, and rightfully so, is going to question whatever said government tells us, especially with regard to going to war.

 

what about all the videos and images of ISIS killing people execution style? are we going to conclude that those are real but the beheading videos are fake? that doesn't add up. I think the videos are part of what jihadist have always done which is use fear as a weapon.

correct me if im wrong, but i believe that you are part of the camp that believes that America wants to go to war for some kind of profitable gain, be it the war industry or oil. This line of logic is very hard to follow because CIA as a whole would have to be complicit in lying to the world by making these fake videos. Then they would have to have some kind of connection to the companies that make money during war or companies that make money from oil. although this is possible, those are alot of connections that we just dont have evidence for. i think the simpler conclusion would be that ISIS did in fact make the videos to generate fear, and to get their message out to the world.

this is where your logic falls apart. What is it that they want? to go to war? so your saying that everyone in the government wants to go to war?

its one thing to be skeptical, but its another to make these kind of connections without any kind of proof and say that these connections are obvious when they are only your opinion. I am as skeptical of the government as i am that this is some kind of false flag operation.

 

You would think that the families of the beheaded would raise holy hell if these were fake, unless they are chained up somewhere with gag orders.

 

Or if they're paid off to keep quiet, too.

 

The evidence should be obvious to anyone willing to go on wild conjecture and pretend that no evidence whatsoever is still evidence.

Go on....