The President Calls For Calm In Ferguson Missouri

^^no, i don't. because for one, i understand biology and the fact that evolution has no "apex."

 

I just wanted to say that I strongly, strongly, strongly agree with your last two statements.... the need to demilitarize the police.
And private, for-profit prisons being a HUGE problem.

No, seriously, man... I think that is just you.
First of all, like porkstock I don't believe ANY race is the apex of human biological evolution----that doesn't even make sense when the "races" really aren't even that different...
But forgetting about that for a moment, I feel absolutely ZERO guilt OR pride about my race.... just like I also feel zero guilt OR pride over what country I am from. None of that stuff means anything to me because I have nothing to do with how I'm born, where I'm born, etc.
Quite simply, I don't feel any race is better or worse than any other.

 

Looks like someone needs a booster shot of Anglicization.



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[SIZE=11pt]I believe you’re being disingenuous when you say you have no pride in what you are or where you’re from. [/SIZE]


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If anything when I said I have zero guilt or pride over my race or country of origin I have more shame or guilt towards those things (both) than pride.

There was a time when I really wished I wasn't white. And also had shame of this country.

But I had to get over those things, which I have. But honestly can't say I have any pride either in either one of those things. You're making me think though about if I do have any pride about anything that has to do with where I come from... don't have pride in PA or my hometown or anything. Don't have some great pride about the places in Europe that I have ancestors from... hmmm... I guess the one side of my family- I had really great grandparents and aunts/uncles/cousins/etc growing up so I'd say maybe the people in my family so maybe I am proud of them specifically...
But pride I see more as... I have pride in my accomplishments. When I have done things that have been hard for me to do. When I've fought through things and been strong. I have pride in the fact that I'm a great mom. And I have pride in some of my intellectual abilities. And my marriage... there's pride there. But that's all I can think of.

 

Militarization of police and their we face an enemy mindset is not a racial issue.

 

very interesting but at least they're politically responding this time. and a couple white reporters int he crowd for moral help lol.

 

The voice in my head sounds like Carlin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OnWnwwxNPA

 

[SIZE=11pt]I find that fascinating because not for one moment did I ever wish to be anything other than what I am. [/SIZE]


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we're all just human. I'd much more fantasize what its like to be an alien than what it's like to be white, italian, or chinese (lol for some reason, I actually have a problem with this one. small penis, weird faces, no benefit).

I'm fine being black. I can have dreads and young skin/genes.

 

What are you?

 

police state
more of its own citizens in prison than any other country
race-relations that still haven't improved/media and tv pitting people against each other
some of the most unhappy, hostile, conditioned to have image-issues poor in spirit country on earth
ignorantly happy of our own ignorance
illegal pot lol. felonies for a drug trade its own government allowed


oh, proud to be American. $$$.

 

An African American Male


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Well I'm glad you could get some fascination from it.

I'm not saying I ever wished I was a specific other race or from a specific other country.
Just... how to explain it... it can be easy to look at the typical rich white u.s. president's and rich white people running stuff in general (amongst other things) and be like "ugh, I really don't like many white people and I kinda wish I wasn't white".... I realized that is irrational though. (a long time ago).... Okay, same thing for the U.S.- It's been easy for me to look at unjust wars that the u.s. has perpetrated and say "I'm kinda ashamed to be from this country and understand why people hate us" ...BUT, again, with both of those things long ago I realized they are irrational. But coming around full circle... the same reason I realized it was irrational to have any guilt or shame over what other people of my race or my country have done (or do)--- this is the same reason I don't have any pride over either one either. I do think there are some really good things about this country. But what do I have to do with that? I was just born here. So if I can't look at myself and blame myself for what other people have done I also can't take any kind of credit for what other people have done either. It's more just matter of fact- but really and if you think this is silly, whatever. ..... I look at myself more as a citizen of planet Earth really.

 

And yes, I think that is what I was trying to get at WAY earlier in this thread. In certain circumstances there can be racial issues involved (obviously some of that exists with the police force in the media currently), but in general, the ROOT of the issue is not a racial issue. The police don't have to be so set up like they're going to war.

 

That level of identification seems kinda myopic considering all the things you could be, for instance like talented or in happy accord with your surroundings. As Carlin pointed out race is an act of genetic reproduction and not a conscious choosing but it seems you buy into it. I am homo sapiens sapiens, tasting and knowing man. No doubt there are all kinds of prejudices based on and social difficulties arise when we perceive ourselves or anyone else as somehow separate from dignified society. This goes for any race.

 

Being green...

 

That's a good definition of racism.

The town where I was born and the town when I finished high school are both total pieces of shit. Like most small Southern towns, they're loaded with dull, boring, poorly educated, overly religious people who are out of touch with the rest of the world.

 

me too. I'm not necessarily proud or guilty of being white but I'm perfectly happy being a dorky little white girl.

speaking of white guilt, its a stupid concept. I'm not responsible for another person's actions just because they look like me. One reason I'm happy to be myself is because I know I'm not contributing to all the hate and violence in the world.

 

Im take pride in my color, White power!