Is it Christian to work in a bomb making facility?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by humanbeaing, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. vance2335

    vance2335 Banned

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    Not saying the devil made anyone do anything. But people do things they often don't want to because they have to. And in this story line someone works in a place that maybe they don't want to or maybe they do, but that does not make them not a christian or make them not believe in God and that Jesus died for us.

    In todays world we will not and can not know peace when we ahve people willing to fly planes into building and hate others because of religion. Modern day Crusades.
     
  2. sunfighter

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    If we cut off food stamps for the poor, the reason is not because we are human. This is a conscious choice to be un-Christian. Asking God to forgive us doesn't make it right unless we also restore the food stamps.
     
  3. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    Now we're all so moral. the absolute absolved morals of the white, have come to make the worldly emotions anything on trial for lying as the excuse to the famous genocide. What about the fear of death?
     
  4. vance2335

    vance2335 Banned

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    That is a while different situation then a person and his job.
     
  5. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    If you're catholic, sure. Just make sure to hit up the confessional before you die so that you still get into heaven. While you're on your way to get the slate wiped clean, might as well kill a few hookers as well.
     
  6. Okiefreak

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    Is it moral for a Christian to defend himself when attacked by someone threatening deadly force? Does turning the other cheek mean non-resistance in that situation? What if the aggressor is threatening your wife and children? What if it it's some innocent bystander who's being threatened? Does turning the other cheek mean turning somebody else's cheek instead? I'd say using deadly force against another human being should be avoided to the greatest extent possible, but if it appears necessary to save innocent lives, go for it! Jesus said:"let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one" (Luke 22:36) Governments occupy positions as trustees for their citizens, and have a moral right to protect them. I'm a utilitarian at heart, and think that it's okay in extreme cases to risk individual interests to protect the greatest number, subject to Rawls' contractarian qualification that it must respect general principles and practices which are fair to all.

    So war is hell, but in a world of bad actors like ISIS, alQaeda, the Taliban et al , bombs can be a necessary deterrent against greater loss of innocent life. I see no reason why a Christian beliving this couldn't make bombs. Of course, the political reality is that the United States has used them stupidly in pursuit of unjust and unnecessary conflicts. The Iraq war is a case in point. Then it becomes a matter of judgment whether or not an individual Christian thinks more innocents would be protected than harmed by such engagements. Christians who recognize the legitimacy of a "just war" acknowledge that war is an evil, to be engaged in as a last resort under narrowly specified conditions (Catholic Catechism):

    • the damage inflicted or threatend by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
    • all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
    • there must be serious prospects of success;
    • the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
    If Christians had been too squeamish about war in the 40's, more Jews would be dead and we'd be eating sour kraut and shouting sieg heil.
    Why pick on Catholics? All Christians believe in repentence. Protestants believe that true repentence even on your deathbed can get you to Heaven, but Catholics believe you don't get there until you pay for the sins in purgatory. In both cases, the repentence has to be sincere--not just an effort to game the system. God can tell the difference.
     
  7. sunfighter

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    Why? They are both moral choices.
     
  8. vance2335

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    The overall situation is very different. Can't compare an apple to the moon.
     
  9. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Sorry, but you're babbling.
     
  10. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    As long as you dont work on sunday
     
  11. Deranged

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    As long as its the good guys bombs. God loves exploded heathens
     
  12. pensfan13

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    I was gonna say something like that but didnt feel right in my post about working on the sabbath.

    Working in a bomb factory might actually protect christians from the muslims working in their bomb factories.
     
  13. TheGhost

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  14. vance2335

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    This forum is not here to belittle faith, so if you want to do that take it some where else.
     
  15. pensfan13

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    yet he just did it and is still here. so i question if your statement is correct.
     
  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It is not the primarily reason the forum is here but it still can be used for it. On the other hand it can also be used for the contrary, yay!
     
  17. pensfan13

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    love all the people thats what i say, some of my best friends are christians, some of my family members are. but that wont stop me from chuckling and a joke aimed at them...(or any other race religion or nationality)
     
  18. vance2335

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    Just as they do to you.
     
  19. Piney

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    OK,.........Suppose one works in a "smart" bomb factory, that only kills a half dozen; Does this change your calculus?
     
  20. eggsprog

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    Free speech.
     
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