Yeah, we've got God to tell us how to think of the formal phenomenal look in Nature about Matter, the non-ens. Or maybe we don't.
Other than god are degrees of absorption and reflection. Reflecting on that I am sometimes self absorbed. I am thedope.
thedope: Liar. The part defines the whole never being apart of it. In your insistence that it doesn't, is the objection to the whole, the suggestion that it isn't ongoing, but static. I never thought I'd be offering lessons in logic. :-D I always imagined myself an artist. lol
Well, sense this entity has no face or identity, besides theories. I can refer to this being as whatever I choose to call it. Anything otherwise, would just be your perception :sunny:
Gee sounds like an objection to me. See the reason you have difficulty with this is your timing is off. No particular reason whatsoever to suggest that what I say means some kind of stopping, stable though wholeness may be. A part contributes representation to the whole but without the other parts it is apart. No more of a stasis than saying creation is a law without opposite or diminution. To describe is either to explain or mark out the boundary or limits of. The whole being itself is the explanation or dimensions of it's own mark as well as encompassing every perspective. The part can only allude to the dimensions of the whole being limited in it's own scope. To me to say the part defines the whole is like saying there is nothing more to learn. Perception is not knowledge but can lead to it. Knowledge is being shared, is ongoing Then what makes you think you are a logician? I've always found myself ably curious. Others consider me artistic and some consider me idiotic. I think you find yourself making exceptions a lot, that just means you are quick on your feet. Silence on the other hand makes room for every sound or calms the tempest.
thedope: Quick on my feet, and on time too. Untimely as I must sometimes seem to you! :-D You're wrong about the limits of description, and the allusions of 'the part'. The whole is the part it is at any moment. Everything is a thing. I am of a more lingual bent than you, which doesn't mean I'm any more loving necessarily. About your wishing me fish the meaning from your words without finding their form to be that of a lie, you may have to try a different hook! lol thedope: Is this true GEtdatdope? Is motion your daddy? The heaving mysterious progenitorial entity that seemingly sired you in your dream of its being a being?!