Freedom Of Hate Speech

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  1. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I think we should prohibit words from carrying weapons.
     
  2. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    i'll second that one.:2thumbsup:
     
  3. Karen_J

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    Or more likely, they would have beaten the shit out of you.

    Don't be getting all the Second Amendment people pissed off again! :D
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    People should be allowed to say whatever the fuck they want, other than threatening and slanderous remarks. When you allow for the regulation of supposedly free speech, you set a dangerous precedent where eventually anything can be deemed off limits by the system. What exactly constitutes hate speech anyway, and who determines what is considered hate speech? Eventually having an unfavorable opinion about the government will be considered hate speech.

    In Canada and I believe some other countries, you can be jailed simply for questioning the official version of the Holocaust, as was the case with Ernst Zundel. To me that is pretty fucking scary.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Especially if it pertains to speech which you don't personally agree with. I am sure every dictator would agree.
     
  6. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    well done canada:2thumbsup:
     
  7. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    People should be able to say whatever the hell they want period! I don't care if its 'slander' or not, Free speech is 'free speech'. They try and pull the bullshit race cards and 'you cant say that', But last I checked there was not a list of 'free except these ones' section.

    Im glad a group of words strike a blow harder than anything physical, That's when you know you are on the right track. People who sit and complain of said words, Are nothing but hypocrites who are doing the exact same thing using their 'free speech'.

    So, If you don't fuck with them, They wont fuck with you! Kinda common sense that if you don't like what a group or person has to say, Walk away!
     
  8. themnax

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    the freedom to rob the freedom of others, results in a net loss of freedom, rather than gain. hate speach, which is by definition, an expression of bigotry, itself a form of evil, is a form of robbing the freedom of others.
     
  9. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    he was here because the US deported him here

    you guys didnt want him either
     
  10. trndpage2006

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    I have to disagree,words just like weapons can be used for good or evil ,It all depends on the user,book are full of radical Ideas should thy be band if some one disagrees,I often told people I was predigest that I hated stupid people but love lots ignorant people the defiance's being ignorant people just don't understand , which I am among in many areas ,but stupid never learns,
    But thy have there right to be that way and say what thy say,no law can change that. and if the word is never said ,it dose nothing to change the mind,only the behavior of speech has changed ,if there going to be violent it just saves them time ,Hate laws are written for government by governments to stop designation , if you get to much notice thy can say hate crime,in violins cases it s not need the act is a crime in its self. the only area I can think of were words of hate should be considered a crime is in child abuse cases ,because of the damage thy do to the minds of the young .but on the other hand you do have a lot of post I do agree with so I defiantly don't place you in stupid category.who knows maybe you will change my mind on some thing,I hope IM never to old to learn for that is when stupid happens LOl ,have a great night
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Should never be illegal in Ireland, you've all been getting drunk and busting peoples heads that dont agree with you for centuries. Maintaining your cultural identity is important
     
  12. GLENGLEN

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    Cheers Glen.
     
  13. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    slander is a criminal offence.
     
  14. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    the biggest evil that comes from it ,be it in reality or online are the amount of suicides.:2thumbsup:
     
  15. Ranger

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    from what I've seen pc speech has merely taught hate groups to watch what they say in public, but does little to change their thoughts or actions. as one who fought the kkk in the south in the '60s and ended up with the kkk putting a price on my head. I would much rather have a bigot expose himself through speech than actions.
     
  16. thedope

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    Not if they are de-weaponized. Sticks and stones may break bones but names or statements to the contrary can never hurt me. Rudeness and taking offense are the same truth. Words are symbols for conditions
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Right on to this!

    Very well-stated, indeed!
     
  18. AiryFox

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    You have the freedom to state whatever you want. It does not mean you cannot get in trouble for stating what you do.

    People have this misconception that freedom of speech means they can never get in trouble for stating what they do. Freedom of speech simply means that you do have the freedom to state whatever you want.

    Just be prepared to face the consequences of exercising your freedom of speech.
     
  19. roamy

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    t'was very arrogant of the kkk ta think they could afford you head ranger. ha! ha! welldone on standing up and against their evil.:2thumbsup: you get a medal for that.i get the point your making ranger bout words verses actions,but unfortunately pc hate speech words without actions are killing people,in the same way they do offline.:love:
     
  20. *Yogi*

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    We have free speech, But slander is 'illegal'. That's nothing more than a double standard and splitting hairs.

    Funny people keep bringing up the 'klan', Yes the numbers have dropped, That's because there is another organization of the same like that many business owners are members of and the media love them. They are in parades and everything, Just no bed sheets and pointed hats.

    The numbers of their organization has doubled every year and more so since Osama administration. Yep the klan is the first to jump to, But all they are, Are little groups of bark and no bite!
     
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