Relieving back pain

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by TheGratefulPhish, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. Jennifer19

    Jennifer19 Senior Member

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    I know the feeling I am fused all the way down with rods in my back it makes me have perfect poster so I look stiff all the time I have been in physical therapy for years I take muscle relaxers and I am fortune enough too have more ways of getting weed I do exercise's that the therapist told me too do not much ell anyone can do for me when my hips get out of place I need someone too pope them back into place hurts like hell but feels better after words
     
  2. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    Me too scratcho, I was against chiro because too many use them for headaches and even loneliness believe it or not but they do good stuff if it is meant for you.
    I have a seriously short leg too and it explains why I walked funny even as a kid and lived with pain I thought was normal. Now those nerves in my back were crushed over time causing lots of other medical issues. Hip pain is gone to very rarely now, I can do things I couldn't before and I avoided a wheelchair my GP said I would be in by now but did nothing to help me avoid it. What's more my other medical issues are controllable to the point I have a fairly normal life.
    I can't give him all the credit tho, I do lots of natural stuff for my medical issues and it helps, but more changes for the better appeared after seeing him a few times,,, and on the shorter leg thing,,, you stand for the X ray, not him and he didn't lie to me about my past issues. They are real, just weren't realized by me as real issues till he pointed all of them out and I saw the memories of the pains I dealt with.
    If you watch me walk you'd see, it's there but less now then a few years ago when I began to have a serious limp and shuffle. My BF says it's kinda cute but I hate it ever since I saw myself on TV many years ago.
    One other thing, I had a serious test by a physio speciallist ordered by my work place (many years ago) who does all them measures and because I didn't trust the chiro guy at first I never said a thing about the testing or the eight pages of reports she made on all that was wrong with me till he said his bit, that's when I knew he wasn't bluffing me and then I showed him her report. He works on much the same level as the physic pros do and his Xrays backed her up too. In the end they treat it differently but they both came to the same conclusions neither knowing each other.
    Chiros are given a bad rap because some people rely on them for stupid stuff and whine when they can't get to one like babies.
    My issues seem to start with one much shorter leg and scoliosis and then many other medical issues as time went due to crushing and no treatments by what we call Real doctors,,, if I had known. I feel better then I did 7 years ago when my work place fired me because I could not do anything anymore. Luckily for me as I said before, I had all my ducks in line and I do better now physically, mentally and financially then when I worked for them assholes and yet it paid very well and they were a well established company with all the bells and whistles before new management came in and kicked out all the disabled and slightly disabled and kept the slackers... Ya what a mistake and they are still paying for their losses.
    It's a treat to run into peeps still there when they tell me I look good and if they could figure out some other work they'd quit there in a heart beat. Get some help, what ever it be but don't rely on a Real doctor for everything, they don't know shit anymore then other practitioners in many cases, open your doors and try other stuff.
     
  3. TheGratefulPhish

    TheGratefulPhish Member

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    I'm sorry to hear about all that :( At least the chiropractor helped. My mother refuses to believe they do anything at all and won't take me.
     
  4. MindControlledShepple

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    ^ Chiro is like religion. For some people its great and the best thing in the world and then theres others who have never even tried it but dont want a thing to do with it and dont want to hear a thing about it.
     
  5. TheGratefulPhish

    TheGratefulPhish Member

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    Until I can drive and have a somewhat decent job, no chiro for me.
     
  6. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    It is but so is naturopathic medicine and many other things like food nutritionalist, reflexologists, massage therapists and the rest to nearly every person walking this earth, it takes trying it out for yourself and seeing a difference for yourself.
     
  7. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    I think the biggest problem with chiropractic medicine is that it was initially touted as a "cure all" and many made ludicrous claims of miraculous cures of ailments that haven't the slightest thing whatsoever to do with spinal alignment.
    Therefore it quickly became the realm of quackery without being given a fair appraisal.
    I still believe there are some pretty far-fetched claims being made, but it is also simple logic that adjustments to the skeletal structures would relate to pain management with musculature issue.

    I have a friend who goes to one regularly, unneeded IMO because all he really needs to do is get out and exercise more and I'm sure much of his pain would subside.

    Same for me,as I have lost my gut, I have alleviated some of my pain, but torn muscles that never healed properly is my problem.
    Some morning it takes me an hour or more before I can stand straight.

    So like any other field of medicine, it has it's good valid points and it's quacks.
    The bad rap is mainly due to outrageous claims of healing.
     
  8. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks Phish. No, I'm fine now. The broken disc was in '74 and until an operation a few years ago(4) for a very different reason---I was working my ass off roofing. I hope you have another relative that will talk some sense into your mom, otherwise you may get bad enough to NEED an operation as I did. Print these answers out (probably not wise to let her see the sex stuff here) and show them to her. I hesitate to say this--but if you could go to one on the sly---and explain to them how your mom feels--------maybe-------Awww man I wish I didn't have to put it that way, but the rest of your life could change. Maybe an uncle or ? could take you. Anyway, I'm sorry for your pain. Back pain will change your personality---and not for the better.

    Sally---glad you're so much better! Makes life easier for sure.
     
  9. TheGratefulPhish

    TheGratefulPhish Member

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    Very glad to hear that you're fine now. Unfortunately my family isn't the most approachable of people. I'm going to try OldApple's suggestions of using different foods to combat pain for now.
     
  10. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I can add that it is extremely easy to see why chiros do what they do, when you look at the chart of the spine they display and how the nerves emerge from between the discs to connect with ones interior organs. Disc gets out of line and presses on a nerve?? Doctor says--"here--take these pain pills." OR--"SORRY. NOTHING TO DO BUT OPERATE." " Manipulate the disc back into its proper position, relieving the pressure on the pinched nerve--------PAIN GONE. No operation and no harmful drugs. Some folks say "well, it hurt worse after I went." Of course!! When you have a slipped disc, your muscles around the area will seize up and hurt like a sonuvabitch and will continue to hurt for a few days. In what state do you reside??
     
  11. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    OK. Good food is ---well--good food and is --uh--good food. We need it and it's important to attempt to eat a balanced diet to insure maximum benefit/ natural healing power, for everyone. But it will not fix your spine. I've said my piece. It's your life and I wish you well and to some day have a pain free existence.
     
  12. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I wouldn't discount seeing a doctor so easily. Might be worth it in case there is something that they could do for you (back brace, physical therapy, etc).
     
  13. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I think that's been covered.

    #1-chiro. Hopefully, remedial action before--(see below)

    #2-doctor. When something is actually broken.
     
  14. OddApple

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    I think you miss that the food suggestions are targeted chemistry, used for therapeutic purpose just like drugs with a reduction in what is causing the symptoms as the goal.
    Some Chiropractors are very much into "foods as drugs" and I can't agree with your generalization of doctors by designation - It is true that many are just business people following the industry herd but the good thing about diet based therapies is no one school has any monopoly on them. Allopathic (md) students surveyed a couple years back expressed interest in food and other therapies as well as a desire for mechanisms to include them in practice. I have my insurance codes for "reishi"....the insurance companies are very, very slow about allowing those codes to become "live". Just like Marlboro trademarked a pot name years back, so with the so-called "alternative" therapies. Many doctors across all schools have codes already and have for years now.
     
  15. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    With all due respect, brother--food will not fix a broken arm. Food will not fix a slipped or broken disc. Not to minimize the need for good, healthy food so that the natural healing properties of the body will not suffer, but broken is broken.
     
  16. TheGratefulPhish

    TheGratefulPhish Member

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    My back is not broken, yet. Just deformed. Hasn't interfered with too much in my life, money is scarce here, awful insurance, and I'm pretty much left fending for myself. Have to do what I'm able to do.
     
  17. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    I am with scratcho,,, and the rest of you. All things good in good food and diet and many other therapies available.
    Good food never hurt us and some have super qualities we could never imagine could help, they won't do what a surgery or manipulation will tho for those who need such but will help in healing in general living, repairing after an action to fix the issue and such.
    The thing the op needs to do is research her very own issues as Docs begin to say what's wrong and decide what to do.
    Ever have a rash show up for no reason? Look up rashes and then pin point what yours is like, Web Md is a great place to start and home remedies sites, but research it and if it seems too good to be true this is where you could go to a natural path and ask more. My issues are not being repaired by a chiro doc, they are being worked on by him and many other things I am doing to help but he has made changes that didn't seem to be there with my many improvements before him.
    I also take a lot of natural meds that have made changes for the good. Don't hold back but definately don't just jump into anything because someone said it worked for them. You need to take action to heal yourself, even if it was as simple as meditation or yoga, ty chi (spelling).
    To hope foods will correct it is to hope a lottery comes in. To build on health with good foods is to feel your best as time goes and repairs are done.
     
  18. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    Deformed is like broken, things aren't where they are supposed to be and in the back that means very important nerves to your liver, pancreas, heart and many other organs could be getting crushed, trust me. Surgery will be suggested to unbreak it or fuse it,,, There could be things that will help and I am sorry insurance is slight, but is there any physio or chiro allowed on it?
     
  19. OddApple

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    I'm thinking the only thing broken is you like a record? I keep talking about healthful arthritis strategies and you are adamant about breaking something that isn't broken, but could be?

    Check health food stores locally, some farmer markets and such can take food stamps. Also, some places give fixed income discounts on the costy medicinals. Wellness ministries let poor people buy cheaper with them etc.
    You'll be able to sense if it's people helping each other for real or just another profit palace with "nonprofit" on the door. Finding things can take awhile but can be worth it when you do.
     
  20. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    hahaha. OK. Got it.





    PS: Look up the word= preclude.
     

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