Is hippy a form or religion?

angelgodiva - well said!

 

Itz duh titz===== HAIR an bein hip 2 whoz fuckin who.
Bow-wow and suplicate uhrselvz 2 your new God, Me.

 

To me Hippie is a state of consciousness. I believe that the young hippies are even more hip then we were, they know what we (old hippies) know cuz what we did is in their history books. They know what the world has evolved into since then as do we also. The younger generation could take what they have learned and go out and spread the love around and take it even further. There is only one faith: The faith you have in yourself or your godself. By being true to yourself your being true to Creator. Blessed Be.

 

A lot of very good things were stated on this thread. I agree with Duncan...

And with SchulBelberg...

But, Angel... I take comfort in the Random Chaos of the Universe. I find that M Theory gives me hope, and has me looking at the very small and the very large. I find Quantum Tunneling a fascinating probability. But believing in a god or gods that created the universe... nope.

 

I would be sad to think that there was nothing beyond myself.If there was no great plan for humanity, that when we leave this concsiousness there is nothing beyond. That our time here is for nothing and the ones we love are meaningless, that love it'self is meaningless. If I did not have my faith I would be faithless in myself. I can DO, I can Think. I AM. I have Faith that there is something greater that we are all a part of. People strive basicaly for the same things in life. Having a home and a family and means to support them, we mostly all feel love and compassion and care for others. There must be some sort of plan that we base our humanity on. Pity us if we don't. I choose to have faith, I choose to love my brothers and sisters and pray to my GOD to bring light into our hearts and LOVE one another as we would love ourselves. Blessed Be.

 

Well, you see Shameless... some of us are as tough on others as we are on ourselves. I didn't like to see you claim to be this and that and give yourself away with your usage of the language.

I'm tough on myself in this respect because I feel that words are like the pigments of paint. One can paint truly marvelous pictures with words. Words can take you on a voyage through the solar system or to the furthest realms of this unfathomable universe. Words can bring you up, or make you cry. Words, to me, are an art form. And to see someone claim to be an artist, and yet obviously have no knowledge of how to hold a brush, makes me sort of cringe inside.

Mediocraty is not an option as far as I'm concerned... and stating this is only my own opinion.

You can't, or rather, I can't say; "well, I've done it. It's not good, but it's good enough." There is No good enough in my book. 'Good enough' gets thrown on the rubbish pile, and the process of learning continues.

I have found through my years... not your years, or anyone else's years... that in order to find the lessons we need to learn, we need to suffer. I know that I have needed the pain that I suffer... and I've taken the steps that I need to take in order to heal myself over these long years. I have not asked for healing from others and I don't want it. I haven't asked to be prayed for either... that's one thing that really trips my trigger and is liable to get someone, other than myself, hurt.

I also understand the principles of Non-local healing (prayer). I understand that it has been proven with petri dishes of bacteria being altered by means of distance-thought-direction (also prayer).

So... you've been following my replies with yours, saying the same things over and over, to get a response from me. You've gotten one. Let's call it a day. I won't argue with you or discuss topics of healing or of religion... it won't prove a thing. I won't convince you of Anything(which I'm not trying to do), and you certainly won't convince me of anything, other than the fact that you proselytize shamelessly.

If I could do something for you, I'd buy you a dictionary. (I live in mine when I'm writing.) But there is one at your fingertips... on the web.

 

It's truly a shame when an intelegent mind is wasted on such a narrow path. Not to look beyond spelling or lack of such is petty and shallow. I don't have time to look up every word I type and waste energy because it ruffels your feathers, what pray tell doesn't ruffel your feathers. Just because you hate yourself for who know why, you want to critasize me for doing good works. That's your hang-up not mine, when I say that I'll pray for you, I am saying I will put out good vibes for you. I do this only to dis-spell all the negative vibes you put out to me. You have made it personal and my only recourse is the pray, vibe, chant or whatever I need to do to dis-arm your poison arrows. If I wasn't able to stay sober long enough to see or feel, I'd have to call it a day too. Sam it looks to me that you have deep emotional problem of your own to deal with instead of worring yourself about my spelling. If I have been repeating myself maybe it's because you haven't heard the message. Sober up and take a look at yourself.

 

Now, you see, that's what I'm talking about.

It's not your spelling that pisses me off. It's your claiming to be a writer and a "well read" herbalist". Then going ahead and proving yourself seriously lacking. How, just how, can a person claim to be well read and not have the craft of using words rub off on them somewhere along the line?

This is not an isular, cozy little world here on the forums. What you write here is open to the world-at-large to read... and if you're going to claim to be a writer, well honey, you had better be able to write like one.

You are not qualified to diagnose my problems, nor to reccommend treatment for said suppossed problems, here on this forum or in any venue of society, girlfriend.

Is that an admittance that I have the "suppossed" problems you and your PM buddies have labeled me with. Not A Chance.

My colleges don't seem to think that I hate myself... nor do they think that I'm a drunk. Nor does my husband or my friends. And as far as I know, from the friends who attend AA... one cannot call another person a drunk. Only the drinkers themselves are qualified to do so.

And no... you don't seem to be repeating yourself because I haven't 'heard' your message. What message? That you're full of yourself, that you think you have the answer to the world's problems, that you offer advice when not asked? You seem to think that you're talking to a child of yours when you speak to me. That's part of the problems with the world as far as I can see. People who become parents stop being themselves. They think that they're parents to the whole damned world, and as such have to offer suggestions at every turn of the corner. You aren't a parent of mine, you aren't qualified for that job either.

No Baby, I've not called it a day with myself nor with the world... it's you and You alone that I'm calling it a day with.

Sam

"God save us from the arrows of the Hungarians."
~ a Bishop in Pesh, to the Pope in Rome. c. 1600's

 

I don't have to know how to spell a word to get it's meaning, your just spouting off. If miss-spelling was life or death I would hate to think of how incidious life would be. You say I claim to be well read, Well, I read. I don't copy what I type. It comes from my heart. Because I am writing a book without going to journalizum school you think I should be outlaw'd. Maybe you should write your own book Sam and spend your time on something that will take you further than your selfpity. You think your the only one who suffers, think again. There are ones out there that have gone throught more pain then most and don't wallow in it. Your wasting your energy by trying to put me down. I'm not buying in. Your need to harm someone that has never harmed you shows the underling problem. Your need to be the one to bring the, (whatever you have labled me) down then it's quite appearent that I'm not the one with the problem. You keep refering to my ability to heal. I never claimed to heal, I give advise on herbs and I read eyes and I muscle test. All these things I have been trained to do, ON HANDS as well as from books and tapes and other sources, like lectures and seminars and many many classes. I was the most promising student they had and was asked to work with them (my teachers) at their clinic. As I had been studing herbs and alterantive healing for two decades on my own. I hold certifications in these three fields, Herbology, Iridology and Muscle Responce Testing. Spelling was not required to heal and no one had ever noticed it or cared to mention. I know the first thing I always do when I visit a care provider is ask how high their spelling score is.
I am mearly defending my self and the theachers that taught me. I have no little PM buddies that I conspire against you with, maybe your paranoid. One doesn't have to have a deploma to see that you have problems and it's all over the forums that you tend to drink and attack people. Are you so pure that you can accuse me of being unreal. I'm as real as they come. I ask nothing from anyone here and I give freely, I also hold the same freedoms as you do on these forums to post freely and speak freely, take it or leave it, it's up to the reader. As far as my writing goes, have you ever heard of an editor. Even the almighty YOU would have an editor go over a book before you had it published ey'' Sam'. Your blasting just makes you smaller to me and your only making Karma for yourself. I have not said any thing that wasn't true to myself or my books, teachers, and so forth. There are no doubt many many people more knowledgable than myself around the world and I have no problem with it at all. If I choose to use myself for good and to help others why would that bother you so. If I choose to post healing remodies in my forums why would that bother you, there are others that post, in fact I saw a thread a while back where you were discussing herbs and vitamins your self. Are you quailified to judge me now. Why do you keep bringing this up. It makes you look like a jelouse bitch. I'm sorry to be so harsh but that's what it sounds like to me. I am free to state my opinons just as you are KIDDO, so that's not an issue, so Sam what is the real issue here, why can't you except that I'm gonna post weather you like it or not and I will heal when and where there is a need. You "girlfriend' are need need of some healing yourself. I'm trying to find some good in you. I don't know why you want to hide it from me. I mean you no harm. I don't know why you would want to cast harm to me. If your 'done with me' I can only feel blessed.
I have put it to the universe as to what is to be done about your problem, maybe you'll get devine inspiration and get a clue as to what it takes to be a true human being and in the meaning of unconditional love. Blessed Be

 

Oh Pa-leeze!

You! All by your little self, has put it to the universe as to what to do about my problem?

To borrow a reply from someone I've learned a lot of really good lessons from;

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

 

I disagree. knowledge may be a treasure but experience is the key to the treasure. Today's young people have far more knowledge at there finger tips than we ever did;there is no question about that. But, I would rather experience life first hand than read about it in a book or view pictures on a given subject over the internet.

 

There seems to be an excess of self righteousness banging around the walls of this thread. A little kindness goes a long ways, Sam, I agree with you about the spelling issue, it is so easy to compose in word with spellcheck, it makes the words more powerful when they are spelled right.

But I think you are being a tad harsh on your sister, and I don't see where she deserves it. Since this is a forum, all open to the whole world and all, I feel ok throwin' my mouth into the mix.

And Shameless, Sis, you seem a bit defensive, and lashin out don't help nuthin'. (I figure maybe I can make ya hate me, and then you'll have something in common and maybe get along...can I dream here?)

I wish we all could sing a song together or somethin', do a group hug or some other equally wimpy and uber-positive warm and fuzzy thang. But alas, I am just a hopeless dreamer...and a non dairy creamer.

BTW: Sometimes, no often, it is in vogue to re-spell werds on the inner-net, ya git my meening?

Peas and loaves, Vivian the guy with the funny name, and funnier bank account, expounding verbage linguistically from my oratory aperture to stimulate the sensitive cerebral cortex with insidiously inflammable rhetoric of a meaningless and realatively benign nachah!

 

Sam, that was a typo!

 

For ME, Hippy is a way of life. Example: I just had my heart broken. I have no intention of saying anything BAD about the lady who did it. (See, I still call her a "Lady".)

 

Well, I for one do not believe in any sort of supernatural being that has written out a script for the universe to follow. The universe is the way it is because that's the way it is. I can never understand why the vast majority of humans have the need to postulate the existence of a supernatural being to try to explain everything.

And I certainly don't see how having "faith" in anything has anything to do with one's quest for enlightenment, which, as I previously posited, means seeing the universe for what it is rather than what one imagines it to be.

 

For me its just a way of life

 

Schlubelberg, while I basically agree with your statements in theory, you say them with an air of authority that makes me wonder how you have come to know the nature of the Universe, while billions of us are still trying to figure it all out, he he.

"The Universe is the way it is simply because it is the way it is"... can you prove that? Or is that your theory? I would counter that this may be how things appear, but nobody who inhabits a vehicle of gristle, muscle bone and flesh knows for sure if there is a reason for the Universe and furthermore what that reason may be. At least that's MY theory.

I feel that the reason that humanity consistently postulates a supernatural being is because those are both terms that we can identify with and comprehend better...and because it is the ultimate ego-stroke. If we create a God in our own image, which we love to do, then that makes us mini-Gods...God Jr.'s....the Universe can be a very dark, cold and lonely place, so I think it is a natural tendancy that we have to project our own idenity onto that of a higher power. a father figure to comfort us in our isolation.

Where I disagree with you is on the issue of faith. I think that our faith and our quests for enlightenment are intrinsically related, but I do not mean faith in the dogmatic sense of the word. In my humble opinion, the person who has the most credibility is the person who is willing to admit that we just plain don't know the answers to the questions of the Universe (other than 42, of course), and that we may be defining the very answers we seek as we are creating reality in real time.

There is no human being alive on this planet that is gonna get away with telling me "how it is". Tell me how it is for you, and I'll tell you how it is for me, but I cannot accept any authority on the existence of all creation who is still walking on two feet and peering out of two optical orbs.

Great exchanges though! Much blessings and peace to you, man!

P.S. you state, with authority again, that enlightenment is seeing the world as it is as opposed to how we imagine it to be...but the world IS as we imagine it to be to us in many ways. I see that statement as ironically relative. It is assuming that there is a concrete way that the Universe is. I think that is confining the Universe when it may BE an endless amount of "ways". But hey, I am one of the folks who have not yet figured it all out.

Ultimately it is all speculation. Ain't it?

 

I believe that Faith is stronger then words, words are mearly a tool we use to comunicate with one another. Faith we have deep within us, a knowing that there are bigger things about the universe then just mankind. I have notised that a lot of ones with no faith, are insecure and deppressed about life and their place in it.
There was a time when I visited with around three hundred peoplea day in the clinic. The ones that were disillusioned and lost that came looking for a way to cope, seem to be in a place of no faith, non faith in themselves and no faith in anything else. They were generaly lacking in proper nutrition and not using all 'cylinders' for lack of fuel. After becoming nutritionaly balanced they were able to think more clearly. The now have faith, faith in the herbs and themselves. Faith is faith. I hear a lot of noise about Creator or no Creator. I believe in Creation. I believe that there is something biggeer then myself, that has a plan for mankind, If it helps me to get through the day why would you want me not to have it. I don't come in here and preach to anyone about GOD, Budda, or any other deity. I come to talk about love and peace and healing of the body mind and spirit. Are the freedoms we faught/fight for and so many died for worth nothing, did we not come to this land to be free from ridicule in our differences in our beliefs. Can we forgo love and compassion in the name of spelling to the point of hatred and belittling our brothers and sisters for their shortcomings. Is that hip?
I choose to spend me time in here helping and healing myself and others. I did not come here to fight or go round n round with some usless BS. Everybody knows I can't spell as well as I'd like to. Big F'in Deal. I'm sure without your spell checks and your funken wagnals you may not be as well spelled as you think. I never said I was here to save the world... too funny.. but while I am here I would rather spend my time helping then hurting. My motto is' If you not part of the solution, your part of the problem'.
I have come here with love and healing, not to be judged for my spelling. Everyone is intitled to their opinon but no one has the right to judge me or my motives. I have done no harm to anyone. I spread peace and love and bring healing light. Take it or leave it, but don't spit on it as you walk by. You don't have to like me, but you should love me as a sister. I have faults like everyone else but I don't intentionaly go around disrespecting people and their beliefs.
We are at the table together here, we all brought something to share. You can either dig in and get ya some, or pass on it. It would be rude to degrade a person for what meager offerings they brought to share because you brought more. We bring what we can. If it's all we have and give it freely with love and the ones who gives the more just gives because they have the more, who then is giving up the most.
I follow no religion. I read, discuss and draw my own conclusions. I think we all come from the same source and are in that sence we are brothers and sisters and we are all in this together. I think we are energy manifested. I can't prove that this is truth but I would rather have that than nothing to keep me humble. It harms no one and I'm happy with it. You should be happy for me too, that I have found something to make it through the harshness of human exsistance. I choose this over Desolation Row. I can be only who I am and no other. Take me or leave me, the choice is yours..Peace

 

Maybe the ultimate ego stroke is ((( giving it a big hug ))) and telling it they are doing real fine.

And then again open the doors to let it out into the vast darkness of the universe, so that it may gather more experiences it is so eager to help us out with.

Just another dreamer

Sending a hug your way

 

well said, hugs