Christian justification for cutting food stamps

Jesus was in favor of both bread and fish stamps.....personally I consider myself a Christian Taoist in that I strive to learn and follow the way of Christ. As I see it a big part of the problem with most so called Christian leaders is that most of their sermons/teachings seem to be from the old testament, a non Christian Hebrew book. There are those folk who call themselves Red Letter Christians. They are an interesting bunch.......

 

I'm not sure that "most people who call themselves Christians" behave this way. Christians and Republicans are two very different things. The people you're talking about are Pharisees in Christian clothing--very good at getting attention for their perverted version of Christianity.

 

of course i stand by it.i always know in my heart what jesus would do. we don't have food stamps.but i'm not pro-food stamp because food got with food stamps is still food,if they are not being given enough money to buy food with.

 

Is the food you receive good quality nutritious food? Can you get a well balanced diet? Or is it all spagetti/meatballs from a can. Donuts, and a bunch of sugar filled garbage?
Not trying to criticise your decision, im trying to learn here. Because if im ever faced with the choice of either food stamps or charity food I want to know what im getting. Im pretty damn picky about my food, I mainly want healthy food. Lots of lean meats, and high fibre nutritions selections are what I prefer.. I know how the saying goes.. beggers cant be choosers. But hey if I can get healthier options thru food stamps ill probably take this route.

 

I believe you have been misled. Who told you this stuff? I don't know much about food stamps, but I believe all these so-called terms and conditions are false. I don't believe the state will take any of those things away from you. You might become ineligible for food stamps if you are no longer poor, but that's the way it should be.

 

This is a very important concept that very few people are able to grasp.

 

it will be alright if you aint white..

 

It's a mix. There's fresh vegetables and sometimes meat and cheese, too. There's always bread and other stuff (cakes and pastries, bagels, muffins). The most of it is packaged and can stuff. It's interesting how much organic and presumably "healthier" food is donated (you know those specialty isles in the grocery store, Kashi sort of stuff). I got these awesome turkey burgers from a farm in NY all summer long, it was exciting. I do get pissed off when things are expired or starting to turn bad. I once got a dozen of eggs that had to go in the trash because they smelled (and tasted) like they were sprayed with some sort of chemical. I was pissed, just as pissed off as I'd be if I bought eggs like that at a grocery store, with cash OR food stamps.

 

Orison, funny you should say that. I just looked at the presidential voting patterns and it would appear that it is the white Christians who make up most of the hypocrites.

 

I'm one of those idiots who actually reads what I'm signing. I stated what is written EXACTLY on the application / form that I am FORCED to sign. I have, in the past, crossed off their terms and wrote in "illegal", and proceeded to sign my name and receive the benefits. But I'm just not interested in it anymore. I can go to the Church and not only is that good enough for me, it is quite preferable.

 

Exactly. They just have a lot of overlap in their membership. Too much.

I'm not a Christian, but I know there are some Protestant denominations that do a much better job than others of teaching and practicing real compassion for the poor. Also, the Jesuit Catholics have this reputation.

There in Boston, I think you will find that the big United Church of Christ (Trinity Church) and both of the downtown Unitarian Universalist churches have an understanding of Christian compassion for the needy that is not entirely incompatible with your own. They don't buy into the Republican Party platform. I have talked to members of two of these churches.

Unfortunately, these are not the kinds of churches that have grown significantly in numbers and influence over the last few decades, especially in places like Texas and California. The most liberal churches have actually lost members.

 

I really didn't want to be a thread killer. Just because there are still a few socially and politically liberal christian denominations around, that doesn't let the ultra-conservative Christian majority off the hook. Actually, it makes them look even worse, to me.

I think most of these churches have become social clubs for like-minded, Biblically illiterate conservatives who get most of their information from the preacher on Sunday morning. Like almost any thick book that covers a lot of subjects, you can cherry-pick it for lines justifying almost any point you want to make. Also, the leaders tend to emphasize the role of Jesus as a divine sacrifice for human sin, while minimizing his role as teacher. That's a bullshit rationalization. If you think he really was one with the Creator, you should care very much what he had to say about everything.

Down South, the Southern Baptists (America's largest Protestant denomination), the Wesleyans, and the Pentecostals have been solidly conservative for a long time. Most of the Presbyterians (PCUSA affiliated) have been consistently liberal, while Episcopals, Lutherans, and Catholics (few in number down here) have been a mixed bag, their views based partly on personal income levels (rich = conservative). I'm most thoroughly pissed off with the United Methodists, who have shifted in my lifetime from extremely liberal to moderately conservative, hardline conservative in some cases. This is actually a return to their roots in the 1920's, when they were more uptight than the Baptists.

It seems that the further a church drifts from the original teachings and example of Jesus, the more likely it is to grow and succeed in America. Is this a sign that God is guiding and directing the Church? I think not.

 

What's this got to do with "cutting food-stamps", but close. I'd like to be such a "sinner" for the southern Baptists.

 

Compassion for the poor. It all comes down to core beliefs and values. Either you follow the teachings of Christ on this issue, or you don't.

 

I'm not confusing my Government with a charity. Thank you.

When Government attempts to cloak itself with Virtue, watch out.

The other half of USDA is subsidy to millionaire farmers in red states.


P.S. I support food stamps neverless.

 

Praise the Lord and pass the loaves & fishes!

 

Many religious charity operations only give assistance to people who conform to various moral/religious rules that they teach. That's why I'd rather see a government based on the separation of church and state giving out assistance based strictly on need.

 

"Separation of church and state" was a hard line belief of the pre-reformation Southern Baptist Church I was raised in. I see no reason both the Church and state can't follow the example set by Christ if both so desire.

 

A.. haaah; but which is the History with the alpha and omega, as the End of History is claimed by materialists in 1994 in Europa?:bobby:

 

Which reformation? The one in which the far right assumed complete control of the SBC and severed ties with Wake Forest University?