The Nature of Time

That depends on your notion of the experience and what you consider to be trapped.

Our physical form may appear trapped in the tapestry we are weaving, but the freedom of our consciousness is not limited.

You can switch forms to any...

 

Yet physicality is illusion

We have only convinced ourselves through optional brainwashing of sorts that we are the physical and bound by the physical :sunny:

 

Yes, MVW - you need to stop considering your self or your form as trapped.

As far as I understand it, you can only truly transcend back into the infinite now, back to 0-time - by realising you are always free.

The way we transcend is by methodology of thought, our thoughts are more powerful than most would have you believe.

Our belief systems are EXTREMELY limiting, we have to free ourselves of them in order to move forward/up/expand.

The physical is not so much trapped anyway, I foresee a future of teleportation and I have already sent sound frequencies through time portals, as have the beings I've spent time with... we have sent frequencies through time and a more fully realised version of my wife teleported herself...

Our physicality is illusion, even this expression that may appear trapped to most - is not... we can move them around - it's like looking in another direction into another part of the cosmic-room... just shift your focus and believe.

 

We always get hung up on this point and I guess there is an important point I am not getting across. Mainly because the first time I argued this point, it was with a materialist who argued that there is no non-physical but then insisted that we are not trapped in time.

I try to make it very clear that what I am talking about is the physical. I guess that is obvious. But the reason that it is so important that we are physically trapped in time, is because at a conscious level we are not trapped in time. That is my point of the consciousness being transcendent of the physical. We can retain and protend, as Husserl said. If each separate Now is an individual Now, then it is only mind and consciousness that gives continuity to time, causality, being, and so forth.

This is also how clairvoyance and prophecy take place (though I am convinced that prophecy is often a warning of a possible future, that we can change if we know how----this is how prophecy is among the Native Americans). This is how shamans can spirit journey. Since consciousness comes from a higher dimension, and our physical selves, which includes the physical body----our Dassein as Heidegger would say----is nothing more than a physical manifestation of ourselves in this realm, then we still have amazing abilities that we do not understand. If I wanted to, and truly believed, I could make an arm and a hand suddenly stick out of my belly, I could walk on water, fly, do all kinds of things. The only caveat is that in order to do it in the physical realm I would have to believe it as a physical reality.

My wife believes she can change the weather. She believes she got this gift from her grandparents and ancestors who were Filipino Medicine People. She doesn’t know how she does it, but every time she has tried to change the weather, she changes it. Within the next day or two it changes… (I’m joking!!!). Seriously, it changes within a matter of 5 – 10 minutes.

The Medicine Man, Rolling Thunder, was being studied by a writer, who as I recall was trained in medicine and psychology, and was commissioned by the Menninger Institute or whoever it was (I am not near my library right now and can’t verify this---but it was that big institute that did all kinds of famous studies with chimpanzees, and studies on human consciousness, and studied several medicine men and mystics in Asia and so forth). Rolling Thunder was called to some important meeting. They left his house late, and had already driven an hour away when suddenly Rolling Thunder realized he had forgotten his sacred pipe. It was still sitting on his dining room table. The writer insisted that as important as it was, there was no time to go back for it. Rolling Thunder sat real quiet and the writer thought that he was upset and pouting. They drove on in silence, and suddenly Rolling Thunder spoke up, “Here it is.” He said, just as nonchalantly as if he had misplaced his glasses and looked down on the seat to see them. There in his hands was the pipe bag and pipe. He had teleported it.

If you sit in a sweat lodge or a yuwipi ceremony, you go into the sacred. On the one hand time seems to go very slowly, but on the other, it goes very quickly. So in this sense when thedope argues that we are not trapped in time, he is right. So I am ‘being difficult’ by arguing this point with him. But the fact is that the our physical is still there in the ever-present Now. And the fact that we can break free of that is proof that non-physical reality also exists.

The physical is an illusion. But we are here to experience this illusion. I personally enjoy and value my physical experiences, and exploring the non-physical as well. My book, which goes with two others, is intended to help those who are struggling in the physical realm, with their own mortality, or the loss of a loved one, or going through their own existential crisis or questioning their beliefs. I hope to open up the possibility that there is a rational way to understanding what seems to be a very irrational side to the universe. This is in order to open them up to experiencing a little more of who they are and what they can truly be, and that death is not final, that there loved ones are not gone forever (Or however they understand the universe and how they believe that such things are---that the non-physical is real). I don’t claim to have the answer, but I hope to offer a possible model that is very rational and fits in with just about any existing model of the universe, and to thus provide a way of cracking the real trap of Modern Man----his objectivistic rationalism. And maybe even a bit of framework or perspective that will get others to explore the same---maybe this is the key to finding the illusive Unified Theory. On a philosophical level, I hope to take us further down the rabbit hole that Heiddeger started into, a path back to essentialism, and a new understanding of a universe where the Gods (or God or however you want to understand a cosmic mind) do(es) exist. So this book goes with the other two I am writing which all together deal with the Post-Modern crisis, and altogether they serve that philosophical purpose. This is my academic attempt to close the sacred hoop.

I think that man will be able to achieve teleportation and other amazing things too—but not until he gains an understanding of the nonphysical, and who he truly is. This involves mending the deep and widely divided rift that exists between philosophy and science (or science and religion) ever since Immanuel Kant. That rift has served its purpose and it is time to move to the next level of human development before we destroy this earth and our species.

Remember, while we may know that the physical is illusion, much of society does not. -----And good LSD is not easy to come by and is illegal, and many of them would never take it...

 

Thank you for expanding on your comments about dimensions.

Is this perhaps the moment of Now? Fascinating!!

This is similar to how I see it, have even experienced it----therefore I really like Heidegger’s concept of dassein as a cloud of being. Of course as an animist, I believe that everything is actually alive----and I have communicated with things that my rational mind tells me is not alive, or alive and conscious as we are. But yes, when we interact here, this interaction reaches into the depths of the non-physical as well. I really like your description.

As it is below, so is it above.

Yes, I can dig that. I have a korg MS2000 analog synthesizer, and one time I hooked it up to an oscilloscope and spent all night watching the wave forms as I played different notes and chords. I did that quite a bit actually, but now my brother has the oscilloscope.

This is very fascinating. (Message me your name, I would love to work with this in my book if that is ok).

It’s not real, and not the same thing, but any hold a picture I am in a sense holding a 2-D universe in my hands, though being one physical dimension higher, I would imagine a 2-D universe would actually stretch to the ends of our universe in those 2 dimensions but, you know…

From a higher dimension to a lower dimension, I certainly understand that. From the lower dimension to a higher one, I think we can understand the separation because the next higher dimension is very hard for us imagine if we haven’t experienced it, and just trying to figure out which direction is it? What is a 90 degree angle from our current 3 dimensions? (the past and the future of course, but where are they?) It is hard to imagine and as I said, we only see an infinitely small sliver of it, as long as we are in these 3 dimensions.

I’m very sorry-----that mandala was so beautiful, but when I got in closer to get a better look, I sneezed-----now its all ruined. All those of you who haven’t clicked the link and seen the Mandala yet, sorry… I didn’t mean to sneeze…

 

This is still an expression of duality and while we are currently residing in a dualistic experience, I believe we are beginning to evolve beyond the perspective of such duality... back to our natural state.

While physical embodiment and spirit appear somewhat separate, yet entangled... from our higher perspective, there is no separation. Once we can truly move into this realisation, we can do much with it.

The apparently physical, is physical... in a sense... the holographic projection that we are is condensed to such a state that it could be physical and our consciousness is segregated in such a way for this experience... it's like we take a slice of cake away from the whole thing (even if we put it back after rather than munching hehe) and transpose it into this form... we are still a projection, our own projection and that projection can be altered. I think if we simply stop projecting in one location and project into another - that is how we can project the illusion of teleportation. In "reality", there is no movement as the basis is stillness... it only appears as such to the rest of the projection.

I believe you - I've been watching the weather seemingly follow our emotions (although I suppose it is possible our emotions are the ones following the weather!).

Awesome

The one teleportation story I have is a small one and of a person, my wife in fact. While this one doesn't have any witnesses, I am certain it's true as I clearly remember the whole sequence of events. She was making her way to the bathroom, me with her - she walked clear past the door and started getting smaller and smaller until a weird little explosion of light occurred as she met the wall. The next moment she appeared in the bathroom in another flash of light, coming from a wall she would not have stood next to, above the cats litter tray.

I have telekinetically levitated crystals on a couple of occasions - this time with multiple witnesses - however it has only been a few mm so far, not yet a full cm. I'm working on developing this skill, once I manage a bit more height I will be sure to share

Rational and irrational are only a matter of perspective, a form of perspective that has been taught to us - forming limitations we perhaps should never have formed - although I can't claim to fully understand the purpose of the experience... "it just is" is usually the best answer I get, although I feel I have pulled a few purposes out of the ether.

I too am keen to still peoples' fears of death and the unknown. Before my own experiences, I was stuck in materialism - agnostic, bordering on atheistic. Of course the experiences I've had took that away very quickly and being free of such fear of my own mortality is a great feeling - although, to be fair, it was more the fear of losing others. I have interacted with dead family members as part of my experiences, which is wonderful when it happens

It is funny how so many consider themselves truly able to express or consider things objectively, every thought is subjective. One of the primary points of this experience is subjective thought, I believe... subjective consideration and experience of the divine. It's another limiting concept... sure they could try objective thinking, just realise it's an attempt rather than final

Yes - I'm sure the unified theory will be much closer to realisation when science finally takes into consideration the observer. It has been experimentally proven on many occasions now just how powerful the influence of the observer is, yet what does science do? It tries to remove any observer possible, not realising than even an atom itself is an observer, so the results will always be skewed. Also, as this is a co-creative universe - what we search for, we will find - one way or another. So we keep creating sub-particles in this fractal loop as much as we look for them. It will start simply by respecting that the observer has an influece, wherever that comes from... then finally it will be realised that things spring from consciousness.

I agree, plus telekinesis, clairvoyance, clairaudience, instant manifestation... plus i'm sure more. We already have many of these abilities waiting for us, it's simply a matter of finding the belief and faith that will move the mountain. Unfortunately that's not a matter that's simple. Plus, when you have the ability to move the mountain - that is when you realise either you should not or that you were the one who put it there in the first place.

A shame, searching through non-psychedelic means takes a lot of belief, patience and perseverance. Psychs give you a wonderful snapshot of what may be possible, they show you that you already hold all the keys and all the knowledge you could ever want or need... now the task is realising the same state without such substance.

 

There are many infinite nows in the cycle of creation, yet only ever one :sunny:

Me too

I was putting a new desk together after we'd moved to Switz and it was a real pain, the screws were at such an angle that every time you turned the screwdriver, your knuckles whacked against the metal legs. Then some were just too stiff to secure completely. This caused me quite a bit of frustration and it bubbled up to such an extent that I decided to vent by stabbing the bottom of the desk with the screwdriver... oops... next time I had a raised experience, I had a wood spirit come to tell me off for taking out my anger on it. I realised consciousness was in everything by then, but I had not realised to what extent... even our desks are sentient, lol!

I've interacted with others too, can't quite remember all - but there is, at the very least, a collective consciousness for each type of material, each unique type of formation.

There do seem to be multiple expressions of infinity

With the fractal nature behind it, I think things spiral down into an a relative nothingness when it become pointless or unable to observe.

I think it is more that - we exist in all dimensions - every single one that exists. We have many differing experiences at many different levels of consciousness simultaneously. It's only our attention for this part of our travels is "limited" to the perception we've both given ourselves and the world around us has imparted. I think we're here to transcend the limitation.

lol :sunny:

 

We can be deceived by appearances. Multiples of is an expression of finite proportions.

Having suggested we go beyond the idea of limitation you suggest our purpose is to overcome limitation?
Attention is not limited to perception and to transcend is to go beyond the perception of. Perception is symbolic representation. Communion is translation of the symbolic into knowledge. I think our purpose is to learn to create or learn to manage our energetic dynamics, the ray of creation proceeding thought word and deed. The purpose of time to give you time to bring time to an end.

 

Yes, the conceptualisation of a seeming separate set of infinities is redundant with respect to the truth of infinity... yet from our perspective, it would seem there are many.

 

Yes---that is the book. My son just gave me a new one too, The Voice of Rolling Thunder, written by his son and Stanley Krippner, PhD.

You are right, anecdotal stories cannot be confirmed. Which is why such deeply spiritual experiences are so subjective, and are ultimately meant only for the people who witness them.

I first read that book when I was a teenager. I thought that was a cool story, but I had a lot of doubts about what could have really happened.
If I would have read it in the 1980's I would have doubted much more. Today I have seen enough crazy and amazing things on the Red Road that I am sure it probably did happen. This includes the way that Boyd wrote about it. He has that matter of fact style without putting too much into it that expresses to me that part of him still is wondering what really happened, yet the other part says, "Ok. I saw it, I'm just going to write what I saw, that's it---and let readers decide for themselves." I've been there.

Coincidentally, about 4 or 5 years ago, in February, I was digging through my library late one night when I came across that book. I thumbed through it a bit, and thought, "I don't think I ever finished this book." I set it down on my desk.

The next morning my wife and I were woken up to a loud thunder that rolled across the sky. It is unusual for us to get thunder and lightning in Colorado in February. I immediately remembered that book and decided it was time to read it.

 

That's why I am permanently banned from museums worldwide...

 

I have quite a few books on the subject and even know a good number of the authors or co-authors, but I am not familiar with that one or the author.

Based on the short synapses on the link in your post it does look intriguing. What makes it controversial?

 

Hmmm... reading the reviews makes it very interesting. Is he Native or White? One of the reviews suggested he might have the 'religion' wrong. But another said it was about the Medicine Wheel, but later points out a criticism that he got the colors wrong (What? There is no single color scheme for the Medicine Wheel. Different tribes have slightly different color schemes for what ever they use on their websites and what not. But more importantly it is up to the individual medicine man----even if it seems that there is several general patterns).

The continuous transition to new main characters is interesting as well, and could easily reflect the Native multiplistic concept of life. Stories told by Natives can wander all over the place as they tell them. I'll have to check this out.

 

That is a good story.

If you enjoyed that you would probably love this book written by a Lakota author: The Lakota Way, Stories and Lessons for Living, by Joseph M. Marshall III.

http://www.amazon.com/Lakota-Way-Stories-Lessons-Compass/dp/0142196096/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1386717167&sr=1-1&keywords=the+lakota+way+stories+and+lessons+for+living"]The Lakota Way: Stories and Lessons for Living (Compass): Joseph M. Marshall III: 9780142196090: Amazon.com: Books


His name doesn't sound Lakota, but Lakota was his first language. The book takes you through the Lakota Virtues and provides stories like this that teach these virtues. The stories are incredible and come from his grandparents. It is one of my favorite books.