Who was the Conservative Republican Senator who gave this speech?

Might it be possible to remain on topic and address the question asked in the OP?

Why does most every thread seem to deteriorate into personal criticisms based solely on perceptual implications not explicitly intended?

 

From economists, and business sources who are astounded that the public doesn't get this as if it were common sense.

It also makes common sense, given that the Veterans Administration and even the IRS said that their workforce being reduced during the shutdown made work stockpile for the remaining unfurloughed staff to deal with, that common sense would tell you that costs money.

 

So the remaining workers just needed to work a little harder?

 

I think she was referring to STP, not to yourself.

 

Anyone care to comment on the speech?

 

yeah,,,This happens way to much....Sometimes people are just too picky.sometimes people dont know how to take criticism, sometimes ,,someone simply made an honest mistake in thier post..and they get jumped on before they can fix it or explain ....whatever the case..your above quote is right.
Lets move forward _---:driving:

 

That's perception. Perception is not reality.

Well, I wasn't, I was talking about his supporters.

I didn't call her a liar. I was saying Obama's speech was lies. I wasn't yelling at her, I was yelling at Obama supporters.

My post is only hostile and insulting IF you support Obama. Otherwise, it wasn't directed at you. I'm not gonna apoligize for my beliefs.

I re-read the post again just now, and evidently it upset Obama supporters cause I told the truth. I'm not going to apoligize for that.

The only thing I can really apoligize for,is making it sound like it was directed at her- but it wasn't, so I'm not apoligizing, for calling Obama supporters out.

 

I agree, constantly raising the debt ceiling is not a real solution for anything, just a band-aid to get you through until the next time it needs to be raised. The obvious options are to either cut spending or raise taxes, or a little bit of both. I think that the ideal thing to do would be to cut back on military spending drastically, raise taxes slightly (especially those on corporate profits, maybe have a tax system that offers tax breaks for companies that create good, full-time jobs) and use the extra money to begin to pay back debt and to fund social programs.

There is so much arguing in the US about funding health care, but it seems that the ridiculous amounts spent on military never make it to the forefront of public debate. Seems to me that America could cut their military budget in half and be no less safe than they are now. If anything, ending military operations in countries across the middle east may in fact cut down the number of America's enemies much more efficiently than the current non-declared wars being fought.

 

Raising taxes wont help our bottom line. Why do you think the middle class is shrinking? The average American pays more for government, than their home. That is to say, we are already greatly overtaxed.

Although I agree to an extent, the way you worded it isn't possible. The only reason oil-yielding middle eastern countries take our gold, is because we protect them with our military. If you "drastically" cut military, our paper money would become worthless- fast. Therefore we can't expect that we'll have free insurance and free pre K, but instead, we'd have to live within our means, and make cuts around the board.

The way to stimulate job growth is less taxes and less regulations. However, they've built up a system, around a fiat money system. It's not as easy as 1,2,3 as some Liberals suggest. We're gonna need to cut government drastically, not just military.

There is so much arguing in the US about funding health care, but it seems that the ridiculous amounts spent on military never make it to the forefront of public debate. Seems to me that America could cut their military budget in half and be no less safe than they are now. If anything, ending military operations in countries across the middle east may in fact cut down the number of America's enemies much more efficiently than the current non-declared wars being fought.[/QUOTE]

 

Since I live in a country with a very healthy economy and fairly strong social programs (including universal health insurance and some funding for pre-kindergarten), I have to disagree with you that it is impossible for it to work. We also pay much higher taxes than you, but the majority of Canadians are happy to pay taxes in order to receive high quality services and the knowledge that, if disaster strikes and we lose our jobs or get sick, we won't be left out in the cold.

 

Re-read what you said, then, re-read what I said. I'm saying it wont work, cause when Nixon suspended our gold, he promised middle eastern countries military protection for taking our dollar. This means we need a big military, if we wish to continue using fake money. I agree we should cut the military, but then we will lose our world reserve currency status. We also would have to learn to live within our means, as we wouldn't be able to print money as we please.

 

every once in awhile - -we do agree
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As long as we take care of the veterans that were in these non-declared wars.even though it was thier choice,(no draft).
The programs that are available have gotten better thru the years. Promoting awareness is a key-
I don't think enough vets are aware of them, or simply don't take advantage of them-
The much publicized backlog of VA disability and compensation claims > is an example of the inefficiency that veterans face when comin home-.

When someone enlists, they really only ask for three things, Pay for thier service, * to be taken care of if they break(psychologically ) * and a burial if they die. At any given time the national government is failing at least one of those.
Things are much better now than 45 years ago,,but the fact that these issues are still around is a fuckin shame

Sorry, didnt mean to throw a commercial into this thread- kinda just happened
JaCk

 

You agree because he didn't actually say that, he just messed up the formatting of the quote and made it look like he did when it was actually me

 

Then learn to live within your means and stop murdering people so that you can buy fancy things. Seems pretty simple to me.

 

For the record, I do agree with that statement, s we all have common ground there.

Also, I think the government should do just that. I think we should massively cut government. But typically people freak out about that thought, because they are in an illusive mind-frame where they believe the US government does more good than harm.

I know people in Federal Government agencies, and they agree with me on this stuff.

 

Aaahhh- -No wonder* *
HAha- - I do agree with you more often than not...I thought this might have been a breakthru for stplsd25 & i

 

If I had a government as dysfunctional as yours, I would probably be inclined to share more of your opinions. Mind you, Harper is trying his best to take us on that path - shutting out the media, preventing government scientists from speaking to anyone without permission from the government, and trying to put more people in prison for drug offences. He's trying to make us America-north and it's fucking scary.

 

Cool! I'm glad we found some common ground. Cause if we had a good government, I'd probably share your views as well. That's why I try not to speak for Canada or the UK, cause every body of people have different cultures, values and, governments.

I feel like once we abolish the Military-industrial complex, we'll have some money to fool around with, but I think the State governments should take care of foodstamps, drug laws, schools etc, and the federal government should be only to protect us, only when we are attacked, or it's Constitutionally permissible .

 

Well, Bush was the big spender.

 

He was definitely one of them.