New Georgia Bill Requires Bicycle Registration And License Plates

Tax trucking firms to help pay the fees.

 

Who's gonna lie to the cops about their identity and risk fraud, obstructing justice and who knows what other charges...Yeah criminals and they are gonna do it regardless.

 

*chuckle* why?

 

That's what we do in Massachusetts when they try to fine us $100 for smoking herb in public. We just say, "I don't have my ID with me, but I'm John Doe and I live in Swampscott." The cops never drive you to your place to fetch your ID. No one has ever paid the fine. Basically, weed in small quantities is legal.

 

Another reason to not live in Georgia. Then again, i cant talk much, as i live in the most corrupt state in the country...

 

Not one person in this thread seems to have a balanced view.

 

well no one knows why they tried to make the law including you so quit making shit up and acting like you're smart

 

uuhh you tell them your name and they look it up on the computer.
A person doesn't really even need the physical I.D anymore, a cop even refused to look at mine once, it's all on the computer anyway.

 

So, you give somebody's else's name, somebody who looks a little like you. If they actually give a ticket to that person, they just contest it and the judge dismisses. This is the way it works.

 

OK, point taken, but we have an entire thread raging about something and none of us know what the reason behind it is. Seems like knee-jerk libertarianism.

 

Sounds like typical libtard thinking to me. But that's just my opinion.

Yes, the government will protect you and keep you safe. Just hand over some more of your freedom (and your money).

 

so then you catch two charges.. one for weed, one for false ID or whatever

 

You keep saying that, but that's not what happens. In fact, in Massachusetts the cops don't even try to bust anyone for less than an ounce of weed, because they believe the ticketing process doesn't work.

In the future it will be increasingly important for cops to be able to identify bicyclists.

 

i don't subscribe to libertarianism. as a resident of georgia it feels more like rednecks trying to fuck with cyclists.

 

to many things to answer not gonna quote you know who you are.
you cant compare a major city to a small county, hell.. gainesville is the only town i heard of in hall county.
just because cops dont enforce laws about one thing in one area dosnt mean they dont enforce laws about something else in a different area. they enforce j-walking in seattle but it is expected that people j-walk in ny.
not sure about the no id thing but i do know that cops pull up your record when you give them your licence. so if you give them wrong info could they pretty much see that you arent a 7 foot black man that is 180 lbs when they look up your name.
on a slightly related note i have been given a ticket with no id because like someone said it isnt worth the trouble of lying.
not sure what its like in other places but where i used to live in nj you used to be able to register your bike if you wanted to, it didnt cost much at all if anything and it was for the life of the bike. so the $15 sure does sound like a money making scheme.
if i am ever in hall im gonna strap on my rollerblades and skate around and flip off every truck driver i see.

edit:when i got my ticket while having no id on me i was asked my address, so i guess you can get away with ticketed crimes if you say you have no id and look like someone that lives at your address.

 

you talk to a cop and try to lie to them they will catch you in it so fast... "oh ok John Doe, what's your address? What side of the street is it on? " so yeah i guess you better have a doppelganger all meticulously planned out

 

If you're right and I think you might be, then I accept pensfan's comments that what I said applies much more to a big city than this situation.

But still, people should be aware of what's happening with biking in cities.
It is causing some big changes.

 

Pretty big shot in the dark that a person could come up with a name of someone who just happened to resemble you. When they look up your fake name and it's the wrong race or someone obviously not you, whoops a real criminal charge.:bobby:
Doesn't seem like a large percentage of bicycle riders would have that kind of criminal audacity. Not enough to warrant more bureaucratic meddling IMO. Next it'll be peds wearing numbered ID vests. Plenty of reckless pedestrians cause grief to drivers and bicyclists thats for sure.

PS Missoula is a university town and a major bike town.
We have so many idiot bicyclists and idiot drivers the cops got sick of it and abolished the law banning bikes on the sidewalk except downtown.
Now it's rude skateboard dudes flinging their boards around in the middle of crowded sidewalks.

I don't know the solution for rude and stupid.. a good body block as they try to pass makes me feel pretty good, especially if they bite it heh heh :devil:

 

Rep. Lee Hawkins

I have always considered patient and constituent safety to be of the upmost importance. HB689 was dropped to address the safety issues concerning both cyclist and motorist. As a delegation, we have had numerous complaints from motorist who are concerned about these safety issues. Some of the complaints had become very heated. I was asked to sign on to this legislation as a response to the concerns of these constituents. It would be irresponsible to ignore this issue until we are forced to do so by resulting fatalities. While I do not support tag fees for bikes, it does address a recurring complaint of identifying those cyclist who are creating a safety issue for themselves and motorist who will be ultimately responsible for an accident. While the vast majority of riders are thoughtful and courteous of motorists and other bicyclists , there are those who are not so thoughtful, resulting in dangerous situations. I have had complaints by individuals of bicyclists who attempt to prevent motorists from passing them by moving to the left as the car comes around them. I have personally seen this occur and saw the truck turn back so as to speak to the folks on the bikes. I live on a road which is often used by cyclists and 95% are single file on the right shoulder, causing no problems and enjoying the day. Frankly, I like to see them out and often wish I was one of them.

Although the present law addresses the issue of riding close to the right side of the lane, there are exemptions, one being a narrow lane road, which allows the rider to ride more to the center. It does not designate nor describe a narrow lane road and thus becomes the opinion of the rider. There are those who are reporting bicyclists who are riding 3 or more abreast forcing motorist to cross center lines in order to pass them.

While this is a seldom occurrence, it does become a great concern for the safety for all.

In conclusion:

The legislation was drafted to bring focus to the concerns of the before mentioned citizens, to promote safety, and provide for a method of identifying those who are not obeying the present laws. At the very least, we will hold hearings to allow citizens to voice their opinions and explore amiable solutions.

Sincerely,

Representative Lee Hawkins

http://weblog.larrydburton.com/2013...-license-plate-on-that-bicycle-and-give-us-15

 

thanks, odonII!