666 - The Mark of the Beast - Forewarned is Forearmed

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by skycanvas, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. skycanvas

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    So you found yourself a nice microclimate off the grid...nice
     
  2. thedope

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    Lot of steps between finding a treasure and being able to claim it as all thoughts must be cultivated to manifest over time, effort toward a desired aim.

    An analogous statement:

    the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearls who, on finding one pearl of great value, went and sold all that he had and bought it

    I too take joy in any success you may find.
     
  3. skycanvas

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    Learning never ends
    Here & now for there & then
    Sell all buy that Pearl
     
  4. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o"]Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast - YouTube
     
  5. skycanvas

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    :punk:...So, —You're living it, right?

    :rockon:​
     
  6. bosnian420

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    when you learn massacres genocide wars in school you learn
    know that you been desensitized you ready for more wars
    don't be a fooled and get directv try free tv off the internets
     
  7. Asmodean

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    Yeah, how dare they teach us about war and genocide in history class.
     
  8. bosnian420

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    think abou tit
     
  9. Asmodean

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    I'm not desensitized nor prepared for war. Perhaps you just were in a very peculiar school or something? :p
     
  10. bosnian420

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    what exactly goes through ur mind when the indian gets his pay back against the stranger
     
  11. Asmodean

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    I see where you want to go with this. Life is not that simple. Neither is history. It's worth studying. It just happens to be shaped for a large part by war and it's outcomes. Not sure why (or even if) you think we should not learn about the existence of such horrible happenings in the past.
     
  12. thedope

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    I agree.
    If our previous learning had taught us well then our mistakes wouldn't persist. There is always much to learn about this day as skycanvas points out in his haiku.
     
  13. thedope

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    Not sure if you are speaking to me skycanvas but I am living life if that is what you mean by it. I don't understand why you would regret a choice to garner information. I have managed to set up a self sustaining enclave based on the economy of my natural surroundings, chopping wood and carrying water and experiencing a direct relationship of reward for effort. Whence the sunrise determines the quality of day and night or wrong or right and not some abstract economic principles.

    To return to your treatment of biblical symbolism, the bible has several points of divergence where one section is not related to the whole, being a collection of writings from different time periods using different local time specific vernaculars. The book of revelation addresses the specific interests of john in symbolism that is meaningful to him but not meaningful to the esoteric curriculum, i.e., do not worry for tomorrow for today has enough trouble of it's own. The only interest served by the inclusion of this book of difficult to comprehend symbolism is job security for the clergy.
     
  14. skycanvas

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    The clergy (of which I have never been a part of) in the visible church building system doesn't deal with The Book of Revelations because they make more money telling people the shit that is going down there will never happen because of the stuff countries do to one another & commercialism, pollution, war & all forms of exploitation of the human spirit. Plus they generally lack understanding since the have no external viewpoint because they themselves are part of the Beast that the Babylonic Whore is riding.

    These guys make more money by keeping their people asleep at their jobs & keep them putting their money in the church building fund waste basket every Sunday to perhaps hopefully be seen by God & get checked off the Hell list for their contribution to the Preacher's fine Estate. They would never even tell their guests that their dogs had bad breath let alone that the country is going to Hell through the deceitful commercialism of arms dealing to destroy human souls in distant impoverished lands & how their job is connected to that Beast out there that the Great Harlot infused with the blood of those true martyrs is sanctioned by my church. Nope, no way.

    I'd say Hollywood has made way more money on Apocalyptic notions & Doomsday scenarios, exorcisms, 666's & Beasts than anyone even though their fake blood movies are riddled with doctrinal bullet holes galore. They twist it into a story & make a horror movie out of it with exploding cars & buildings. No, c'mon, Script writers have people crapping their pants over Armageddon & The 7th Sign & The Exorcist & Zombies & Vampires, Alien Invaders & Nuclear Warfare... They are making megabucks on Biblical misinterpretation & sensationalization of the same, getting people to sit on the edge of their seats & thankful to go back to their mundane little lives & jobs Monday on Penny Lane.

    Oh, yeah, maybe those Hal Lindsay type of writer guys, but when I think of clergy 'Clear-G' —besides thinking of a wireless phone signal I think of those geeky priests who never get out much. No, those guys are as confused as ever about Prophecies of which Nostradamus was more visionary born back 500 years ago concerning the things of today. They'd need to drop out, live in their parents basement, & stare into a candle for 20 years smoking opium to ever have interpretations of visions. They'd never do that.
     
  15. thedope

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    The scribes and pharisees allow no one to enter nor do they enter themselves. The existence of the book itself within the confines of the bible is symbolism enough to entrance.
    Council of clergy stamped official version. Clergy are not a special class but belong to the devotion to mammon. What is a whore but one who prostitutes themselves for money. The two systems contending for our attention are god and mammon not good and evil. The money changers work on variable exchange rates or relative worth. God creating all things good, all exchanges of energy are equal, the measure you give being the measure you receive. For every action there is an equal and complementary reaction.

    My house was meant as a place of devotion for all nations, (natures,) but you have made it a den of robbers and thieves. Mammon insists we trade away, (tradition,) our natural talent for devotion, insisting that our offerings in life be converted to shekels. This perspective does not apprehend the value of things that it sees, it certainly doesn't see a world as god supposedly created it, but simply evaluates what it sees leading to the saying judge not lest you be judged. Be vigilant only for good, for sound understanding as if the eye be sound the whole body will be full of light.
     
  16. skycanvas

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    Right On!
     
  17. thedope

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    To remain innocent I need remain blameless and point out that there is no evil conspiracy.

    To sin meaning to miss the sign, the sign being the sign of god, the sins of the father are visited on the son generation after generation not through inheritance, (original sin,) but through education, the lesson that to be godlike in nature or sane in the world is to be able to tell right from wrong. And who is not duped at one time or another thinking he had happened on a good thing only to find it dissolve into regret and feel the goodness of life seemingly ripped from them. You shall not eat of the tree in the midst of the garden nor shall you touch it, lest you die, (become dispirited), but the serpent said when you eat of it your eyes will be open and you will be like god, knowing good and evil. To view the world as coming at you with varying motives leaves you in a position only to be suspicious at best to vicious at worst and is a product of a split or not whole mind. Life has one motive only, to have it's good and reality supports it's constituents.

    Nothing real can be caused to become unreal. Nothing unreal exists.

    The truth, all things are lawful but not all things are helpful and helpful is a matter of timing and place, a time and place for all things under heaven. Since there is purpose in all things, and by purpose I do not mean destiny mapped out, we need use our powers of distinction not to tell right from wrong, but to ask what a thing is for and distinguish whether the form fits the advertised function. We do not need value judgments to organize our lives.

    Honesty is consistency, when what you say and what you do are the same and when what you see and what you say you believe to be there are the same. Many will say I believe in god but i see much evil in the world. Well, we see at a glance that this is not an honest statement. We have not because we ask not. Who does not insist bad things happen all the while saying they long for good and when the rabble is given a choice between the criminal and the innocent, they cry give us Barabbas.

    The devil means slanderer , a forked tongued serpent, a liar from the beginning who's slander is against the child of god. In suggesting that they would be like god, he convinced them they were not. The only thing we bring on ourselves in the endeavor to distinguish good from evil, is shame. It is a choice we are making in the present believing falsely we are indentured to choices we made in the past and in so doing perpetuate our hardness of heart.
     
  18. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    lol
    And point that out? :-D To remain innocent, you only need remain so thedope.

    All exchanges of energy are equal only to themselves. Giving and receiving are not the same truth, but of it, that is exchange... but there's no good in telling you again, and again, and again, is there?! :-D

    LOL Oh? You mean like this one? "We do not need value judgments to organize our lives. " Honestly? :-D
     
  19. thedope

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    Hello Dejavu. Knowledge is being shared. How would any one know I was without blame considering the conversation in this thread at large if I had not said I see no conspiracy?
    To remain innocent I must not blame.

    They are the same truth because having and being are the same.



    If you set aside your value judgment and use right judgment what I have said is like saying a car needn't be a station wagon. The world is invaluable.
     
  20. Dejavu

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    Hello. You're saying you wouldn't know without declaring the fact to we others?!

    Having and being are the same truth, but how is giving then receiving?


    Well, you know me, let's dispense then with the question of need. How would you know the world is invaluable without valuing it? How would you know without, at the very least, wanting to find its value? :-D
     
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