666 - The Mark of the Beast - Forewarned is Forearmed

Rofl. The 'ol "if I copy and paste bible passages ill come across smart" thread.

 

Unfortunately, I think the opposite is even more true. ROtFFL

—I'm sorry for your casual misperception. You're going come across a lot of quotes here. So, if you are adverse to them being pasted, for whatever reason you may perceive, there are alternative forums & tons of things to comment about. This is a thread that I began regarding the 666, so I'm somewhat protective of it, having a genuine interest; and at least the mods like to keep people on topic so there is less trolling, flaming & personal attacks, since free-speakers can be septically full of shit. But that's anarchy for you. It can be allowed in measure within a given system but cannot govern the whole of it in the possible result of creating order throughout.

Personally I could quote most of it from memory & it just helps me to at least get that right, lest somebody start squawking that I misquoted the Bible. But liberals can be so critical & judgmental as if to appear to be were wearing tie-dyed KKK hoods. I've lived all over the World, but living in California for years I've come to realize many people think any religion that doesn't mention Jesus is considered intelligent & that Christians are all dumb fucks.

Lastly; since you posted within this topic, do you have a substantive reason participants shouldn't access the subject matter being discussed or does that seem somehow condescending?

—Or we could be as mentioned in the 'The Death of The Reference' from Essays by Malcolm Kendrick, MD; where he says students no longer read the footnoted material, but just copy & paste it into their papers & that one researcher discovered the same mistake copy-pasted into several hundred individuals' work in medical research facilities.

Reads from Psalm 8: "For thou has made Man a little lower than the Angels." ...and I might add: He's been gettin' a little lower ever since. —Mark Twain :sifone:

 

I dont think any text can be traced back to the beginning of recorded time on earth. Also there are scriptures older than the Bible such as the Vedas of India.
These myths were built up over a long period of time, and some have their origins in cultures such as that of Mesapotamia.
I very much doubt that Moses wrote any of it.
When you say "chosen lineage", its more like self appointed lineage.

 

Moses is infamous for writing down the Pentateuch which are the first five Books of the Old Testament (Think: 10 Commandments) much of which's key Scriptures have been confirmed through the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered from the Kumaran & Essene Communities of scribes during the ages. There are references through the writings of Josephus, the famous Jewish Historian of 37—100 AD accrediting him as well.

The Vedic Scriptures I've read are amazing & may have been prophetic, alluding to another time period near the beginning of this one where you actually have nuclear wars, flying ships much like today & sophisticated weaponry described with soldiers in battle bathing to wash off radiation or to the actual conflagration between Heaven & Earth & the angelic forces. These seem to have been either prophecies about Armageddon, the ultimate Battle, and end of the World or of the original battle where 1/3 of the angelic forces waged war against 2/3rds in heaven in rebellion & were ultimately cast onto the Earth. There is no evidence through excavation thus far that ancient man possessed weapons of that sort. So it could have been an account of the war with heaven from the earth's viewpoint.

The Book I'm accessing here is the Book that begins with Moses & ends with Daniel; then begins again with Matthew & ends with the Apocalypse (Daniel is in mesh with Revelations as John was a student of the Old Testament & the numerologies allude to equivalent periods of time). It doesn't deal with your Vedic account, although there are many things that were not written, the time that lead up to the Great Flood may have been technologically advanced. But the fact that until 400 years after Noah when his descendants attempted to build the Tower of Babel down the Great River from Ararat that mankind was only then 'scattered abroad on the face of the whole earth'... doesn't brook any credence that there was already some separate civilization in India. Men stuck together until then & only then did they follow their tribal tongues to places North, South, East & West of the Cradle of Civilization.

So if I can hardly place it on a timeline in modern History, I can hardly corroborate it with modern events nor sustain it. But it is written for some reason & it is ancient text. I just think it sounds like space wars between Heaven & Earth, good & evil after the onset of creation, possibly an assault on the Tree of Life to regain immortality before the Garden of Eden withered & died because where did all the humans come from to participate in a war, but the descendants of that Garden. And they didn't have technology then. It had to have involved spirits & spiritual battles with those in the Heavens & those on Earth.

The Bible as we know it only deals with the onset of the line of David which is the lineage that leads to Christ.

I really don't like theological arguments even though I can do 'em since I have a background. I find the Cemetery 'Seminary' approach to God is boring parsing of terms & shibboleths & all kinds of distant nonsense that kills (or sickens) faith & that it really just comes down to whether you believe or not: 'He that has the Son has life; and He that has not the Son of God has not life'... All that other stuff will just distract people from the truth. And the truth is never complicated but very simple. It's easy enough for a child to understand or how could it be true since children are totally pure & simple, thriving on love itself, so they must know or have come from absolute truth, pure light, way beyond reason? It's only as they grow into adults do they stray away into complicated matters & the willful frustration of negative beliefs. — LOL; It reminds me of that cartoon, Despicable Me where the kids brought him to reality of goodness rather than his steam-punk existence of figuring out how to be the ultimate super villain.

 

What astral bodies, show me one, and how does nature work like clockwork but human beings are out of control? The idea that human beings are separate creatures from the rest of nature is a purely an anthropomorphic egotistical view. If nature works like clockwork then where the universal turmoil? The turmoil we experience as homo sapiens stems from the fact that hot always flows toward cold and being warm blooded we seek the temperate zone of our own physical systems. The only thing out of control about human beings is the lack of a grasp of their own nervous system. As god says to Cain, it's desire is for you but you must learn to master it.. The best and simplest explanation for what we see as miscreant events and the way we react to them is simply ignorance, not some contest of hierarchical forces that only apply sometimes.

I enjoy your posts and your studiousness skycanvas but I would point out that such complicated symbolism is the exact opposite of simple explanation. If you could present your belief system in a way that did not rely on fundamental miscalculations about the nature of the world, then I would have no quibble with it.

There is an esoteric message in the material you are presenting and there is contrastingly an egotistical interpretation of the materials you present.

Absolutely, the facts that you present don't brook any credence that there was already some separate civilization in india but these attending facts make it entirely reasonable,

Modern humans, Homo sapiens, evolved in Africa up to 200,000 years ago and reached the Near East around 125,000 years ago.[2] From the Near East, these populations spread east to South Asia by 50,000 years ago, and on to Australia by 40,000 years ago,[3] when for the first time H. sapiens reached territory never reached by H. erectus. H. sapiens reached Europe around 43,000 years ago,[4] eventually replacing the Neanderthal population. East Asia was reached by 30,000 years ago.

We can learn to speak a foreign language and this is not confusing for us, but a lie is a genuinely confusing tongue.

 

The trouble is that there is no evidence at all to prove that Moses wrote any of the bible. The fact that later adherents to the same or similar traditions believed it is not evidence.

On the other hand, scholars have differing views about its origins. Some say for instance, that Genesis was not written until the time of the persian empire, around 1,500 years ago.

The idea that Moses wrote it is an aspect of christian tradition.

Also, it is not at all a real history of the human race or their migrations.

As regards the vedas, they are equally as steeped in a mythic notion of their origins. I mentioned them only because they ante date the bible, not because I necessarily subscribe to their content.

 

I have learned that the way the original tenach was put on paper implyed that it came from a long orally tradition as most nomadic people handled their history.

 

We are hear to make " loosh " all other texts are just meant to confuse people . You need to have read the books written by Robert Monroe for this to make any scence .
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Loosh
http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/loosh-101-tracking-the-crack-in-the-universe/
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1064
http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1160433849/1
One started by me on the now closed Pavlina forum http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/spirituality-consciousness-awareness/47510-loosh.html
p.s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Monroe

 

It makes sense that spoken language precedes written language. Historical accounts are reflections and symbols of inner struggles. There is more than one way to regard history and we can regard it as what man has become or again as what man may yet become. The esoteric, (hidden) thrust of these accounts is metered toward what man may yet become reflecting on where he has been and extrapolating from that ones tendency to be. However this is a deep account for which the majority have no desire or use for wanting fundamentally to simply be comfortable. That is to say knowledge is material but most people look for material comfort so there is plenty of knowledge available to be had and that is why you see specialists and people who document these things and people who read them and people who simply don't give a shit.

 

This covers loosh , and why we are hear , you need to watch it all the way through . Contains adult lang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71p2k1sIRHU"]Trap, Mind Field, Loosh and The Park? Why Am I Here? 4/6 - YouTube

 

Cool. & tks. I successfully co-authored a book with a person who'd had an NDE & had to thoroughly immerse myself in similar parallel texts, like Betty Eadie's etc. Life After Life, Moody; Life After Death, Echols, etc.

I subscribe to thoughts akin to http://jesuschristlsd.com & if I were a Native American, I would probably attend their mescalito ceremonies. Albeit, LSD is the white man's peyote.

I post/discuss that stuff on > Christianity and LSD & although this has to do with a 'fusion' I'm trying to find out various takes on the Mark of The Beast 666, so am focused on that here.

Maybe we should start a thread on this over there. I def believe in tripping out of body. Again, tky for your input & Have a good one

 

I dont use drugs my self , other that caffine , and beer . This post did come to mind , its based on a you tube video . This guy is stating more or less that Mathew ,Mark, Luke , John , ect chewed mushrooms to get high and see Jesus . http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/fun-recreation/68919-jesus-mushroom.html
On n.d.e. s , Dr. Moody , and a few others we have discussed them on http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/
On loosh who knows .

 

I've heard that said of John who wrote Revelations in exile alone on the isle of Patmos in 90 AD. Well, —'According to your faith be it unto you' Mt.9:29. When I first became a believer I recall stumbling over the fact that others were drinking coffee to stay awake, considering caffeine to be a 'drug'...

Maybe it's good that we may never know the answer to that question because the entire visible so-called church & a lot of the other people would be scandalized by such a claim. I mean, my mother has a hard time imagining that the California Doctors unanimously recommended to the Federal Big Gover that Pot be legalized. I mean, she doesn't even drink. Maybe that doesn't help normal people believe as they are into abstinence & keeping the "Law', (when actually believers are no longer under the Law, either Moses or Paul or any church laws, because the law is just a shadow that is passing away —we who believe are under Jesus' most recent Law of Love. That was one of His last commandments before he left the Planet: Love one another.

Now I just smoke the occasional pot & drink wine or beer. It really doesn't take much to get you off once you have the Spirit of God inside because you are already in the spirit & more prone to trip (leave your body). And I don't want to let go just yet, so I have to be more moderate than the chronic tokers I see all around me.

Like, in a sense Acid is the way I came to this & after I did it & eventually got saved I really didn't need a strong hit of anything later on. Early on, yes I still tried stuff, but eventually I mellowed. Maybe it's like the Biker Church, we all have these psychedelic experiences in common & don't think they are 'of the Devil' or something stupid.

It's like we go through acid & stuff & an awakening & then after that you are more aware & don't really need it to that extreme, except when the old body & crap we have to deal with starts nagging & dragging us down to the mundane world & you start to see yourself becoming a droid. Then it's time to drink some vodka & chew some salvia, etc. It kick starts it all up again, i believe because those newly paved neural pathways are still up there. New Neurons lol

God made this world & all of nature for us to experience & experiment with, so have at it, just don't compromise your present existence or go all the way out of body permanently on your own terms.

I write this stuff because I've come full circle around in life & realize that the so-called white-man's xtian church is very anal retentive & legalistic. Whereas, say, the Native American Church still embodies nature into their ceremonies. And the European descendants had to cap that one. —Nobody but a 25% native American can be part of that church.

PS: I suppose after what they did to the Indians, they didn't want us tripping out with them either.

"If it's not strictly forbidden, it must be generally permitted"

 

I know a few of the Native Americans will use peyota in there rituals . I dont use drugs my self for a few reasons , its too easy to get hooked , they alter your perception of reality , you could never trust your experence . Even caffine can create problems when trying to reach deep relaxation . On God there is an interesting post I could give the link to if asked.

 

I think there are two classes of drugs. (1) Psychedelic drugs, you don't get hooked on as they are not a physical high & if you ask me the experience can be exhausting. You are just tapped out of psychic energy from self-examination after an acid trip & don't want to do it again for years or never again as in my case.

(2) Drugs that give you a physical high like heroin, crack, speed or even pills from the drug store like Oxycontin have never interested me at all, probably because I have a non-addictive personality & refuse to bow to those things. But, yes, those are very addictive.

And, yes, someone is going to pop in with the fact that there is a gray area, where opiates can be somewhat of both, but i think the numbing experience is the physically addictive part the mind & body both crave. And even pot can be psychologically addictive, so there are many shades of gray. But I just left my stash in another State where it was legal & have been 6 months cold turkey without any withdrawal cravings from MJ, so maybe it's me or maybe it's someone else's personality but I'm not jonesing one bit.

PS: Yes, why not post those urls you were speaking of; I'm realizing maybe the 66s are tapped out & this thing is better left to wander, wherever... unless it's totally wacked out flaming...

 

I tried weed 2 times in the early 90s and dont care for it , so its not the gate way drug some claim . Hear is that link a lady asked to see God while out of body , this is her post . http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/w..._experiences/i_asked_to_see_god-t38258.0.html

 

desert-rat. I watched the entirety of part 4 of 6 and it took me upwards of two hours because of my very intermittent internet connection. I am wired in the woods off the grid. I have made the journey to the wilderness to be able to hone my senses in the absence of the glare of civilization and the expectations of cultural responsibilities. I agree in large part with what I heard.

Perception is not knowledge but can lead to it. Traps are always conceptual as we are conceived in the most intimate sense. My meditation is beyond symbols transcending, (going beyond the perception of,) the world or the systematic...

No mind/mine fields, one mind with many perspectives, the I am I call myself is the same I am you call yourself, I am the name we all inherit in creation.

Creation is a law without opposite and the ray of creation from our perspective proceeds thought, word, and deed. Being a ray redundancy all ideas must be cultivated to manifest in time.

 

Let's continue, I haven't missed a beat.

 

Started to watch the uTube video you posted. This break is a luxury, and also sucks being so near the grid with wireless everywhere in the place, but I'm redoing my van ready for the road. Leak free. I'd of been done if the weather wasn't fighting me tooth & nail. Extreme heat & rain, something out of South East Asia.

If I can get cellphone connection I use Foxfi tethering; works with a non-rooted android as well as rooted & a free app. If not, I get my info & charge up at a coffeshop in the morning. I have several mini appliances in my backpack like electric shaver; as well as a small rechargeable battery pack, cell phone & laptop (power supply) on a single extension cord that is all they see I have plugged in. They've never looked. But then again, I don't have a deep cycle marine battery in there either. Hmmm.... ;-> The only thing I haven't hooked up yet is solar & that only because it makes me less stealth, which I am more so in my newer rig, so if I don't need it I won't. But anyway I vowed to get the roof redone first. Was not just an easy repair. But lots of people don't realize how cool & damp it is along the ocean between that & the coastal range. Mold is very popular there.

 

There is here in the shadow of the Olympics. I chose this area because of a lack of native agriculture, that is the areas abundance and mild climate made agricultural development in this area, unnecessary.