HBWR thoughts & trip report

Took 15 seeds.
Chewed them for few minutes then swallowed.
About one hour later when I was doing some usuall activity it just 'hit' me.

I didn't have any visuals at this point, but I have felt this 'mental retardation'. I still could do stuff which required thinking, but I did it slower and less accurate.

Few minutes later, great euphoric mood set in. Everything seemed perfect and beautifull. I was happy all the time with huge smile on my face.

I have noticed that my skin feels different, and my eyes have 'different texture'. When looking at my face in mirror... well it is hard to describe, but the only thing I can track this back to are my other psychedelic experiences. Other than that visuals were still non-existant.

Music felt completly amazing. Even first time when I did them, 5 seeds, it still was really beautifull. HBWR is worth taking just for how it makes the music feel.

It is worth noticing that my stomach felt horrible at times. I've tried not to focus on it. Walking was making it worse. This can be annoying but is possibile to manage. I didn't vomit at all during the trip.

What was strange for me, was the ease of controll. I didn't have any problems communicating with other. It was hard to speak at times, but possibile to overcome.

About 2 hours after it started working, I've decided, since it makes music so great, I'll play guitar. It was getting dark by this time. I have turned lights off too make it more 'moody'.

It felt kinda nice, but few minutes into it, it changed completly. I can't describe beauty and awesomness that I have felt. I was playing perfectly, smoothly, without mistakes.

At one point I have closed my eyes while playing. Now this was wonderfull. I didn't expect it at all. Beautifull world of CEV's opened before me. For some reason I have never experienced CEV's with other psychedelics. It felt like my thoughts were being visualised and they danced/warped/changed to the rythm of the music. They weren't very intense, but easily visible. Later on I've found out that strongly closing eyes makes them more vivid and more bright.

Later, I have started sweating like crazy. My forehead was literally wet all the time. I've decided to lie in bed and listen to music. It was wonderfull, I've kept listening to it with my eyes closed, observing visuals. All this time I was extremely euphoric. I have found answers to many of my problems. Everything seemed so simple and obvious. It made me look different at my life and at psychedelics themselves.

It was something around 1 a.m. I have felt extremely tired, annoyed, sad and generally unhappy. I've turned music off and tried to get some sleep, but it all was just getting worse. It is really strange how easily great time turned into bad trip. My hearth was pounding I was still sweating. Had problems breathing. I've tried to turn it around again. Visuals annoyed me at this point, I didn't want to see them anymore, I wanted it to end.

After some time when I have stopped fighting it, good mood came back. I went to the toilet. To my surprise, patterns on tiles were moving and morphing. OEV's were like those on 1st plateau of 4-ho-met. When closing eyes I was still seeing vivid CEV's, even though it was bright in this room.

Went to bed, some time later all of these effect started to wear off and I have felt asleep.

I've took these seeds about 18:00, felt first effects bit after 19:00. When in toilet, it was about 2 a.m.

Which makes ~1 hour onset, ~6-7 hour trip.

Next day I have felt irritaded, tired, in bad mood, but it came back to normal after some time.

 

Cool report, you're very frank with some of your descriptions.

Most of your report has me eager to explore HBWR again and at a higher dose and music enhancement is one of my favorite aspects of psychedelics, having the capability to play an instrument is even better. The comedown and day after sounds kind of rough tho.

 

It isn't pleasan't all the time, due to stomach issues, but this euphoric mood makes it up for it.

I think many people just fall into bad trip when their stomach starts to behave weird and thats why there are so many mixed opinions. And others look for cheap legal high...

It sure is worth experimenting, since while having some similarities, it feels different than other psychedelics.

I can't stress out how great it makes music for me. Even when at points I feel kind of "sober", when I start listening to music it becomes just wonderfull.

Also it is great to experience nature with it, in-doors it isn't as great as in forest.


I don't know if other people get this, but for me next day was a complete opposite of trip.
I didn't feel like talking to anyone, was in bad mood, sucked into world of thoughts, music didn't give me any pleasure.

Maybe it was one time thing. Last night bad-trip and tiredness might have added to it.

2 weeks earlier, I took 5 seeds 3 times in gaps of 3-4 hours and next day I have felt kind of deteached, but rather nice. Really enjoyed watching clouds and sunrays going through leaves. They looked normal, but different...

 

For anyone researching HBWR, thats what I've found:

- tap water neutralises LSA, so if you want to peel the skin, use destiled one
- this 'cyanide in skin' is more of an urban myth, as there are no documented extractions confirming it.
- no one really knows if there are other bad things in its skin, therefore getting rid of it is a waste of time at best
- synthetic LSA is described by Hoffman as 'mild depressant', which means that other alkaloids in seeds add for psychedelic experience
- in relation to above, you might be getting rid of some of these alkaloids by completly removing the skin
- some say LSA is absorbed best in-mouth, therefore I kept chewing it for some time and moving around before swallowing
- cold water extraction (seeds kept in tea bag) works for most of the people, but I didn't try it.
- some people say that companies spray HWBR seeds with chemicals to discourage "druggies", therefore it is better to get organic ones
- only plants grown in Hawaii and Madagascar contain enough LSA, Madagascar seeds being more potent
- there are a lot of bulk seeds from India on the market

Also, got 10mg of seeds (~100 of them) for ~7 british pounds on ebay.
You might wanna watch for prizes, since I have seen shops selling 10 seeds for 10 EUR

 

Sweet

They're underrated in my opinion, definitely ain't mushrooms or lucy, but they've found themselves a nice little niche in psychedelia.

I'd also like to revisit them, and seeing as my dads got a whole wall of morning glories I may have to at some point. You mentioned Hawaii and Madagascar, dunno if that's strain specific or some environmental factor, and Madagascar's kinda nearby.. to google!

Anyway yeah, nice report

 

Very similar to the last time I did LSA. I used a morning glory extraction though. 17 Grams of Morning glory seeds Woohhhh. I remember the closed eye visuals were the best but the open eye ones were crazy too. I kept opening my eyes and staring at one point at the wall and watching it melt, then closing my eyes and finding myself in a box, surrounded by other boxes that were all part of one big box. I could move between boxes but only by forcing the boxes to come to me. it was like exploring different dimensions, The only thing was, going to the dimensions is impossible. they have to come to you. So I would close my eyes picture a dimension open them and all of a sudden I would have a hallucination like I was driving down the highway at 90MPH and it would quickly stop and the entire room would look different. I remember one time I was staring at a crack in this door in my friends room, the crack got bigger and bigger until a door appeared and the door opened shooting a burst of light which made me blink and everything was gone. Love LSA

 

I think it's where the seeds came from. Ones from Hawaii are generally considered to be higher quality in regards to psychedelic properties and germination rates.

Also, great report! I can totally relate.