Using shrooms to overcome social anxiety/gain confidence/kill insecurity?

I know logically exactly why I feel how I feel. And I know it's fucking bullshit, but that doesn't change that I still feel that way.

I need to *emotionally* understand that's it's bullshit.

 

NoxNoctum. If you feel like there is something in the mushroom for you definanetly take it.

What you expect to be there, will probably not be there. With mushrooms, you must give up all expectations, it will give you what it wants to. But if you feel SOMETHING of some sort is there, then follow your intuition.

But understand, the mushroom gives you what the mushroom gives you. It might not be self-confidence, it might not be a greater will to live. Of course it could be. But don't expect, don't look for things. Don't go in there searching for something new, you have to submit to what the mushroom wants to show you. You have to give up all preconcieved notions, you have to give up all metaphors, all beliefs. And in that, you have no idea what will come.

However. If there is a certain quality in you that you wish to change, and you know what this quality is before specifically, the mushroom can help you change it. But you will have to adhere to that want with all your life. It's in essence going before a God and asking it to ALLOW you to will something into being, it requires an enormous amount of conscious will. And once you have started such a cycle, you must finish it, no matter what, even if it's painful, even if it looks like a dead end road. You have to conciously will yourself into it and hold your resolve. And that can be somewhat diffucult because this will basically involve facing the fear associated with what keeps you back. But if you cant bring yourself to do that in real life. Then do it with the mushroom.

Now when I say that, don't misunderstand. You CANNOT conciously control the trip, the mushroom gives you what the mushroom gives you. But as you come back, you can make the choice to not reform certain aspects of your ego. But it will require a will to do so and that will can only come from you. You might say you want to change, it might sound like a good idea, but do you really want to? Do you really have the will to do so? You might be saying yes now, but would you still be saying yes if this means having to come to terms with some deep repressed feeling that you didn't even know have? Would you still say yes if it meant that you would end up feeling like you lost a portion of your mind and are now inhabiting a new, foreign, weirder feeling you?

See to will yourself into a change, it's not just that you gain something additional. But rather, your going to lose something to embody this new quality that you want. And it might scare you in what you have to lose. When you finally see what you have to lose, you might want to turn back. Which can make everything go completely haywire. But if you know without any doubt of this certain new quality you want, and your willing to give up ANYTHING in your life to get it. Then you will probably find much use in it.

 

Bad idea man. Exact wrong drug. Try x instead.

 

so wat have u tried it yet

 

No harm done in trying it, so why tell him not to?

 

Hey man I see you wrote this post a couple years ago but I desperately want to know what your experience was with using the Shrooms to overcome the anxiety. I have tripped off Shrooms 3 times not knowing initially what it would do for me. But my experience was so raw. No hallucinations but a strong sense of being comfortable and okay with my feelings. The confidence to walk down the street and actually look at things, approach people, cry I mean I actually layed in the street just to feel what these cold streets felt like. (I know I went a little overboard) But what I noticed is the anxiety was gone. And I got to thinking what if I could use this as a way to escape the anxiety which causes great depression in my life. I know it's all mental and I've tried all my life to get over it myself but this drug is a big help in the direction I want to go. So I'm curious of what happened for you?

 

I'm on the MDMA train for this.

I don't have a good repore with mushrooms. But MDMA brought me out of depression.
I couldn't use my NLP techniques or anything because I couldn't remotely relate to what happy felt like like. After my dose, I remembered what happy 'felt' like and then had a frame of reference to help me with my other therapies.

 

Haha. I totally fell for the Necro!!

 

I'm doing mushrooms for the same exact reason, literally identical reasoning. I just have trouble connecting with people, and even myself (my mind). Iv'e tried everything too, hypnosis, dieting, fasting, some therapy, etc. etc. nothing has worked, because i can't access the parts of my mind, whether it's thoughts, feelings or whatever. I know i need to dive deep into my subconscious mind, hypnosis is somewhat effective but i need to go wayyyyyy deeper. Iv'e done my research for several years, and now with all this information and research coming out from John Hopkins about depression and anxiety success i'm going in without any fear and hoping for the best.

I just innoculated 10 jars today for the pf-tek and made a liquid culture, i'm growing penis envy in honor of the great Terence Mckenna for making the strain.

I'm hoping having a background in hypnosis (2 years daily, 1 year every now and then) (they were good quality positive hypnosis cd's with brainwave technology) that i'll end up with a happy learning experience and energy to better myself so i can just be fucking happy for once in long damn time. That's all i want is to live in the moment and be happy... I'll say my prayers to the mushroom and take off. I report back what happens, of course it'll be a while, the penis is slow. :rofl:

I wanna know how your trip went too OP!

 

That's awesome man. Glad to hear that!

 

Yeah I have done them three times and each time they help with my anxiety. Not only is it almost non existent when I'm on them over the next few days I have an extreme afterglow that calms me down and helps me focus on things that matter. As long as I keep trying to do think in these positive patterns things go good. I honestly am going to start taking them once every month or so. They help tremendously I have also been doing research in the MDMA helps as well although it has to be pure.

 

I'd say MDMA is more efficient with helping social anxiety. It fosters a mindstate where the emotional walls come down and a disinhibition that makes it feel more free to interact and interestingly in turn it makes me more attentive to others. I find these effects consistent.

I've had some amazing bonding experiences with mushrooms however I've had some trips where I have preferred isolation as well, its more of a toss up with shrooms. They can definitely prompt self-realizations about the self and in that way can direct areas to work on and I have felt more connected with others but when taken out of a comfort zone, I have found that more often than not those social barriers remain intact with mushrooms.

 

Eat 0.2-0.5 depending on species and strain, daily for a week. Thats the medicinal dose ive figured out.

 

On high doses shrooms have changed me in a sense, more than any other psychedelic in the long run. I used to be the exact same way, insecure, unsure. But after a hefty 3 and half gram dose of a very strong strain changed me without me noticing it. You don't realize it, but as time passes after a enlightening trip, you begin to see tiny changes in your personality. Shrooms told me not who I was, but what was wrong with me and how I could change those flaws. Now im more confident as a whole and no longer act like a complete douche all the time.

Call me cheesy, but that was the case for me

If you want to change, all you have to do is listen to the drug and yourself.
(P.S MDMA would enhance these effects and unless you have lasting heart or brain conditions I would suggest doing them at the same time. Maybe .3-.4 of some street molly on the shroom comeup would yield best results)

 

Yup. It's potent mind medicine. I use them for this very reason. I feel that im a better individual after most trips.

 

300 or 400mg of MDMA is way too big a dose for this situation, especially when combining it with shrooms... stay in the 100-150mg range.

 

i have problems with social anxiety,
but i find shrooms make me more reclusive and inextricable.
i love shrooms and take them a lot.
but for social anxiety i would recommend alcohol.

 

"The Healing Journey" by Claudio Naranjo .

Some will know the book?
Must read for those interested in this area!

Alex Shulgin, also

 

I'd like to start by saying that in general, dosing yourself with psychedelics to cure anxiety and/or depression is probably not a good idea. I had a positive experience, but drugs affect everyone differently, especially psychedelics. I can easily see psychedelics helping you immensely or it could make things MUCH worse, so if you decide to try it use caution.

That being said, I have really bad anxiety and mild depression that can sometimes be pretty bad. I first took psychedelics about six months ago (tried LSD once, then did mushrooms several times after that). I was worried that given my high anxiety and stuff I would be more prone to bad trips than most people, but I have found the exact opposite oddly enough. Normally I'm the kind of anxious person who freaks out over all sorts of things I have no control over, and my girlfriend is a very laid back person. On psychedelics though, out of the roughly ten trips we've had, she's had two bad trips and I've never even come close to having one. I was very surprised by this, because like I said I have high anxiety, and everyone usually describes their bad trips as being caused by being really anxious or paranoid. But, instead I find that my brain becomes sort of hyper-logical. Like normally, I would think about something like getting into a car crash and get really freaked out about how fragile life is. On mushrooms though, I always get this wonderful peaceful feeling, where my brain just sort of thinks "yeah, you could die tomorrow, but why freak out over stuff you have no control over? Just relax and enjoy the amazing beauty of life while you can".

It's like when I'm on mushrooms, I ALWAYS view things optimistically. Even if I start thinking about things that normally worry me, usually I just think "seriously? People are starving in the world and I care about [dumb first world problem]? Get over it, jeez". It really just puts things into perspective, and makes me VERY grateful for all the things I have that are truly important, like my wonderful girlfriend and my college education, and makes temporary day-to-day problems seem downright silly. And what's also strange is that before I could always recognize that I was being paranoid and crazy, but on psychedelics I actually felt that everything was okay and that that was the actual truth. Every medication I've tried for depression that works just sort of turns off depression, but with mushrooms I actually felt like it was more like a therapy session, instead of the drug suppressing my anxiety and depression, it instead made me face it without any filters, and me examining my disorders in that way just made me realize I don't actually have anything to be depressed about, which again I could recognize when I was sober, but on mushrooms I truly felt it down in my heart and for the first time I really realized how lucky I am and how wasteful and stupid it is to be depressed for no reason.

So, within a week after my first trip I went off my anti-depressants, and I haven't been on them since and I'm doing great. I can say with certainty that I never would have had the courage or mental stability to go off my meds without psychedelics, so I owe them a lot. And overall, yeah the feeling wears off a bit, although of course you can always still remember what you learned and carry that with you the rest of your life. For me now, every once in a while if I start feeling down I'll make an effort to take a trip and the feeling of loving life comes back again (which is greatly preferential to taking daily prescription drugs, and way more fun). Like I said, it really is like the best therapy you could get (especially since my actual (ex)therapist just threw prescription drugs at all my problems), and so like I said, if I ever start feeling really down I'll just put some time aside for a nice trip and just spend the day listening to music, thinking about my life, and just learning about myself and gaining perspective about my life.

So, that's my experience. The best of luck to you!

 

I didn't read the whole thread. for me the big " fuck all social problems" was mdma.
I became more social permanently!