Julia Gillard is finally sent packing

I don't know if you all follow the news in Australia, but after three years of the worst governance in our history, the Australian Labor party decided it was time to knife our first Female Prime Minister in a coup on Wednesday night. The weirdest thing is, in their caucus vote, they put the same guy, Kevin Rudd back in who they kicked out when they put Julia on the throne. Even after his first challenge last year, he promised he wouldn't challenge the leadership again.....so much for promises. How in hell could people even believe these people again? Nothing but lies and false promises since they came into power in 07. The only good thing that can come out of this is that they are voted into oblivion at the next election.

 

Nothing but reasonable jobs, and GDP numbers since they came to power.

"worst governance in history" Go back to sleep Melanie

 

Exactly

Australia was one of the few developed counties that did weather the GFC.

Not that the government runs the country, big business does, and when it comes to running the government, the faceless public servants do.

Gillard, Rudd, Abbott are just figureheads, spend most of their time doing speeches, they arent the ones that form policy.

Ones like Swan and Abbott arent terribly smart, everyone else with similar qualifications and half a brain are earning ten times as much or more in private industry

No use blaming Gillard for everything if basically no one else really wanted to be the rebound PM

 

Yes

I think the Bavarian Illuminati may be involves as well.

 

They came into power with a huge surplus in their hands and squandered it within a few short years on so many failed schemes. Pink Bats, BER, NBN, oh yeah and Border Protection.. lets not forget that. Not to mention "There will be no Carbon Tax under the Government I lead" Similarly "I will not challenge the leadership" from Rudd. How can you believe people like this?

The jobs market is now starting to fail as is our GDP under their watch. They have also slashed 5% spending from our Defence forces which will take at least a decade to be repaired.

 

Border Protection? Australia's thousands of miles away in the middle of the Ocean, that must be one hell of a boat ride.

 

45,000 illegal immigrants since 2007 Mike...yes it is one hell of a boat ride, with now over 1800 deaths making that journey since 2000. Most of them since 2007 when the law was changed by the current Government.

 

Where do they come from and what law was changed?

 

The break down of countries is something like, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and now African countries like Somalia.

Prior to 2007, all boat people were processed off shore, in places like Manus Island and Nauru, they were given temporary protection visas while their claims were processed and if found ingenuine they were sent home. In 2007 the current government scrapped all that and tried to process them within Australia. Therefore the people coming here and the people smugglers knew that once on our soil, it is harder to send them back. That opened the flood gates and became unstoppable; they have since tried to return it back the way it was, but its too late now.

 

LOL@ her futile tries, the survival of the weiks' is at stake.

 

The survival of everyone is at stake now. Rudd is back and the Titanic is now Rudderless even more. More spin, more hype, more of the same. And I can't believe people are actually swallowing it.......

 

Lol, shows you what you are up against, Rudd gets back in, labours popularity shoots back up, nothing really.about the issues its cos he ' looks' more like a PM, oh and he can speak chinese, that must be good.

 

Exactly.We would have had a mining boom irrespective who was in power.
There are minor differences between the major parties but they are just minor differences.

 

We would not have had the mining boom if Labor and their screwed up alliance with the greens were in at the time it began. They didn't want mining such as we have and would have killed it off with taxes as they tried to do of late

 

God I love this thread

 

"They came into power with a huge surplus in their hands and squandered it within a few short years on so many failed schemes. Pink Bats, BER, NBN, oh yeah and Border Protection.. lets not forget that. Not to mention "There will be no Carbon Tax under the Government I lead" Similarly "I will not challenge the leadership" from Rudd. How can you believe people like this?"

Melanie I will let you onto a little secret maybe jobs and employment are more important than surpluses and the ambitions of coalition politicians.

Non of the schemes you have mentioned have failed as you say and global warming is an Issue that any responsible government will need to deal with.

"The jobs market is now starting to fail as is our GDP under their watch. They have also slashed 5% spending from our Defence forces which will take at least a decade to be repaired."

Since when was the job market starting to fail. Why do you mention defence spending. I thought you were interested in surpluses and it seems prudent spending.

 

Surpluses create a safety net in hard times, to squander it so wantonly on socialist ideals and welfare as they have is bordering on utter neglect. During the last Coalition government we had more jobs, more net wealth per capita and less unemployed. Current spending to support so called asylum seekers is now running at 2.7 billion..

didn't fail? omg lol... 4 deaths from the Pink batts scheme, two and half thousand homes were not reimbursed, they actually stopped reimbursing households because the kitty was empty. The BER was a total failure, no extra jobs were created,in fact unemployment rose immediately after that disaster. Like why would your spend $250,000 on a primary school canteen? in a school of only 250 students? The NBN, projected cost was originally 40billion? cost now, if it ever gets finished is almost double and who pays? We do and to what benefit to the broader community? If they had gone for wireless as in Europe, it would have been one quarter of the original estimate and would have been more advanced technology as well.

The jobs market started going down in 2010. It was 4.3% under the Coalition when Labor came into power, one of the lowest in the OECD, it is now 5.6% and rising. Only an idiot welfare vote chasing desperate government cuts defence spending, as its the easiest scapegoat. Greens and Socialists think we can do without the military. I quote the then Senator Bob Brown in 2005 "We should disband the Navy and simply have a Coast Guard. The Army should be made up of a ready Militia."

 

Indeed the coalition along with much of the country enjoyed the good times during most of the first decade of the 21 st century which as we all know proved as the GFC demonstrated to be quite unsustainable. The bubble burst over much of the global economy of which Australia is a part.

Many of the losses that big players in the global economy incurred where socialized. Many big institutions were nationalized outright while public debts everywhere mounted. The evidence suggests that the coordinated response by governments certainly averted something far worst.

I did not think it would take you long to mention asylum seekers. In any case around 80% from what I know are finally accepted into the community. Most of which will go on to become highly productive members of the community.

All claim that these programs did and do not create any new jobs is silly. In the case of the pink bats Many argue that the housing and construction sector has become under regulated to the point that abuses where bound to happen and did. An argument can be made for extending the program to improve the overall energy efficiency of homes. That could lower peoples energy bills and reduce carbon emissions. Not a bad idea.

New class rooms and new computers in just about every school everywhere all over the country for every student. What do you think many voters are going to think about come September.

You can throw about any numbers you like on the NBN cost but the official estimate is around 43 billion to cover roughly 93% of Australian homes gov and businesses. The claim that wireless technology would be superior to fiber in most situations is simply not true both in terms of speed and cost.

I thought most libertarian types would be able to share allot of common ground with bob brown and the greens on this particular issue. Oh well maybe not. It is a simple fact that allot of defense spending does nothing or may actually harm the defense capability of this country.

 

When the Coalition came into power in the 90's they inherited a 93billion debt from Keating, when the Labor government came in 2007, they inherited a 13billion kitty. If god willing the Coalition gains power at this years election they will inherit a 123 billion debt. So much for Labor financial management.

Most of the computers in public schools have had to be replaced at either the parents or schools costs. Of the money spent on the BER overall, across all schools throughout the Nation, a total of 23 new classrooms were built. Many schools nominated projects that they would prefer to have been built, such as improved gymnasiums and security, the government though in their wisdom chose what they wanted to waste the money on. At a school near where we used to live, they spent 350,000 on an assembly hall, when they already had one.

You are so dead wrong with this statement

Almost 73% of those who have arrived in the last six years and have been given permanency are unemployed. As well, this disasterous policy coupled with the migration we are experiencing now, is dividing the country. New immigrants that are coming now, especially from those of Muslim backgrounds are unwilling to assimilate into the broader community. This will only cause more social friction.

Labors own latest estimates put it at over 90 billion when completed, if completed. Latest targets hint at a possible finish in 2020. By that time and even now, the technology is outdated.


I would not share the same room with a Green. Our defence capabilities have been on the downhill slide since 1982 under both Labor and the Coalition. Neither of them have had the balls to commit to protecting our nation. I say this as the daughter of two former officers of the Australian Navy.

 

I would assume from your tone that you are a communist thinker? That or someone with their head in the sand. We are trying to conduct a meaningful debate, so if you can't add a little intelligent opinion, try to refrain from adding anything at all.

I think you more than likely believe in the fairies at the bottom of the garden to.