Good News/Discussion Source?

It seems every time you tune-in (TV or internet) to a discussion on news or political issues, sarcasm and righteous indignation are way too often used in place of reason. That goes for all of them, from O'Reilly to Maher.

Maybe I'm searching for Atlantis, but does anyone have recommendations on good political discussion/debate?

 

I like RT honestly. People are weird sometimes cause "they're Russian" but sometimes you see things clearer from the outside looking in...

http://rt.com/usa/

 

I suspect, Pokerguy, the best source of good debate/news is not attributable to one news source or political forum. You do meet people from all perspectives here. But it's where you feel comfortable.

 

Ahhh, that's why you act the way you do.

 

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RT, also known as Russia Today, is an international multilingual Russian-based television network. It is registered as an autonomous non-profit organization funded by the federal budget of Russia through the Federal Agency on Press and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation

Russian State TV? Russian Propaganda Station?

I don't think you even know how the BBC 'operates'.

 

I like elements of AP/RT/BBC/BBCRadio/ITV/ITN and Reuters...along with CNN/MSNBC/CBS and others.

 

I just take a look at what is on Google news. I cannot be bothered to make much of an effort in terms of news at which I barely even look.

 

I can't say I have used a news news aggregator before. I suspect that is a good source of varied information/news and debate. There is so much out there it's hard to make much sense out of it all, to be honest. But, good call, Maelstrom.

 

You certainly get a different perspective. Doesn't mean that perspective is any more clear though. RT has a bias just like every other media outlet.

 

I just catch things from many different places and I can hear the diff spins people are putting on things and usually figure out something close to the truth, and some other of it is just noise. If something is really interesting or important I'm not gonna hear it from just one news source.

 

Stop muddying the water with your annoying facts, Odon.

 

I find that PBS has as its guests ,participants on both/all sides of an issue and gives them plenty of time to develope their viewpoints. I also get the BBC news(it's a wonder with just rabbit ears) and they,so far,seem to just report instead of shilling for any particular viewpoint. If I want opinion,I watch Bill Moyers on PBS,as I agree with his opinions, and has excellant guests on that are extremely knowledgable on the topics on which they are brought on to discuss.

 

It depends. If you get the BBC world service, perhaps not. The one where a British News outlet says things like: 'The British Prime minister - David Cameron' - or the daily drudge of BBC output. There are whole websites dedicated to BBC bias. But, I still do use them sometimes. Nothing is 100% worthless, I guess.

 

Thanks guys - some decent feedback.

I was just starting to think that Vice's programming was looking like an oasis...and then I watched a special on the Koch brothers. VERY disappointing. The first 20 minutes dedicated to accusing them of saturating the media with a catch phrase (something like 'Social
Security is going bankrupt'). The showed short clips of talking heads repeating the phrase ad nauseum, without ever addresses/substantiating whether the claim was true or not.

Did anybody see the Oliver Stone's history? Some really interesting claims...but much of the 'footage' was taken from (fictional) movie scenes. Not exactly substantive video journalism.

 

The problem with much media is that it is time limited and often doesn’t have high expectations about their audience’s attention span and often of it intelligence.

In such cases sarcasm, righteous indignation, bluster and black and white certainty work a lot better than rational argument which is often reasoned, calm, carries a certain amount of uncertainty and shades of gray. In other words the former is more sensational TV than the latter.

I agree with others about using multiple sources and questioning them all – but I’d also put in a strong argument for the long source, (the short sources being newspapers, radio , tv or web article etc) - I'm talking about books and not just those written about events today.

Read the great works of political thought, Machiavelli, Hobbs, Mills, Rousseau, etc the great economic thinkers, Smith, Marx, Keynes, etc and history were real politics took place, ancient Athens, the fall of the Roman Republic, the English civil war, the French revolution etc. You often need a background to understand a foreground.

 

I usually use Google News, and set certain media outlets like the Toronto Sun and Fox News to show up 'rarely', and have the media outlets that I trust more (CBC, Al-Jazeera, Reuters, etc. show up more often).

 

Sure! But at least you admit they all do!

I laugh when people say CNN doesn't have a bias! They're just as bad as Fox, but on the other end of the spectrum.

 

Idc if it's funded by the Russian Government, the US government is only gonna show you what they want you to see. They even legalized war propaganda here in the US. Meaning, American News doesn't even have to be TRUE anymore!

Not to mention our government is spying on The Associated Press and Fox news.

"The only people who wouldn't want to reveal the truth, is people who got something to hide"-President Obama

His administration is hiding a shitload from the American Public.

Obama has prosecuted more "whistle blowers" than any other president.

They've also been fighting tooth and nail to eliminate the freedoms we hold dear. Our freedom of Speech and the press has been narrowed, as they're also fighting every other Amendment contained therein.

Speaking of independent journalist; (I actually can't stand Alex jones or infowars) But Adam Kokesh from AVTM is def. who I watch the most. He's an Iraqi veteran, who since leaving the Army, believes that governments should never be used to imposed force on non violent individuals.

http://adamvstheman.com/

He fights for the founding principles of this country. Much like I am hated, for trying to do here.

 

You're "hated" because of your tactics, not your politics.