NRA planning Gun Appreciation Day

I agree. You're trying to say guns are bad while talking about the DEA (DRUG enforcement agency)


These are the same people who kick in doors, shoot dogs and scare the living SHIT out of children and babies, over dirty marijauna pipes!!!

If anything, that's another good reason to let us KEEP our guns!! Our government is the true terrorists! We SHOULD be able to protect ourselves from THEM!!

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”~Thomas Jefferson~

 

Lapdog for the NRA's Unsubstantiated fear mongering. No different than the DEA. No debate? No discussions? No 1st amendment, just the misinterpretation of the 2nd. No one wants your guns troll. Just assault weapons of mass destruction kids get from irresponsible parents to shoot other kids. You can still hide your little pee pee behind a deer rifle. Punk!

Countdown for Wango-Tango Countdown until Ted Nugent Is Dead or In Jail

My Countdown is on Sunday, 14 April 2013
at 12:00, EDT timezone (-0400 GMT)

Wango-Tango Countdown until Ted Nugent Is Dead or In Jail is in 59 days, 19 hours, 53 minutes

What their Fearless leader does without wmd's...

 

Assault Weapons of Mass Destruction? That's a new one. Shame we rely on people with little to no knowledge of firearms to tell us what an "assault weapon" is. The blind leading the blind.

 

It's been known for a long time that the Koch's were the money behind the "tea party", that it largely was an astroturf movement and not just composed of real activists. Little did we know that they bought the name change also.
Study: Kochs Tried To Start 'Grassroots' Tea Party In 2002

☀"A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth that is what I am after...
I will have no intellectual training.
Knowledge is ruin for my young men."
Adolf Hitler quoted by John Gunther "The Nation"

Where are all of the Taxbaggers and Norquest?

ALEC the Koch Brothers Led CABAL
Efforts to Rewrite Americans' Rights; Changes that Imprison More People for Longer and Make More Money

Heston died, NRA's Mandatory Minimum Didn't
NRA Slavery: Another Fine Product Still Made in the USA!
Koch Roaches A.L.E.C. Drug Detention Centers

Drug Czar is Required by Law to Lie
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters
cannot be trusted with important matters.
-- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

 

What is it you want to know? Guns are guns and weapons are weapons.

One is for hunting and protection, the other for war and little dick loud mouths selling guns and prison cages. Not really difficult except for vested interest. My 30 30, 410 over and under, 16 gauge and 22 pistol were guns and no one wants to fuck with them. Just weapons designed to take out massive amounts of humans, especially little kids. Military weapons or semi autos have a place the same as NASCAR and professional boxing. Not in the streets or schools. Trolls can't see it and they want to make policy? Follow the money and stop the gossip...

 

ehhh, not much you could teach me when it comes to firearms. What I do know is that these so-called "assault weapons of mass destruction" account for a fraction of a percent of homicides in this country. Your 22 pistol, statistically speaking, is a much bigger weapon of "mass destruction". Do you also advocate the banning of pistols?

That said, I agree that semi-autos have no place in schools. What does "in the streets" constitute, in your opinion?

 

No one can wipe out more people than is held in the clip. 6 or 100. Each year your statistic grows so does the fraction of a percent. As long as it is not addressed it will not be stopped and your wmd's will be in the news again. When I was in school we settled differences with our fists after school. Guns were for pheasants and bucks. I wouldn't want dynomite for trout fishing either.

"Streets" are a common reference to lay persons without training. Not for the general public, or in public places. Geared more towards the profiteers manufacturing than responsible owners. I'm not trying to teach you about weapons or firearms, you ask. You probably agree most of the crimes with guns are by criminals and yet no accountability or methods to stop it. The NRA bought and paid for mandatory minimums are used more on pot growers. If there was accountability and responsible owners then the illegal guns on the streets doing the most harm, would be less. No one is going to stop a determined wingnut seeking vengeance. But we don't have to help them by making it easy. In the 60's we took our shotguns to woodshop to refinish the stalks. On the school bus in a hemp canvas duffle bag. We had limits to shells in the magazine. Same with deer rifles. Not wmd's. They are as unsportsmanlike as shooting wolves from airplanes.

Walmartians don't sell anthrax or jet fighter planes either. Letting the Military sell assault rifles and weapons to qualified users would be appropriate and lessen the deficit. Most welfare is spent on the Military, this could reduce the amount. Instead of Koch rentacops paid by tax dollars, improve the schools and teachers salaries. Smaller classrooms. Those small amounts of massacres are moot. The irresponsibility of the parent not securing her weapons for her mentally disturbed kid would not have happened to a responsible user. Permits or hunting licenses are not to stop shooters. Just to make non shooters safe too. You have a right to bare arms, I prefer long sleeves. Assault weapons or hand grenades can be fun. Just do it out of harms way and by those trained for such use. We train truck drivers, bulldozer operators and railroad conductors. Assault weapons capable of mass destruction are no different. 80% of NRA members agree, only the profiteers whine about it. I don't want fools firing up bongs in kindergarten or on greyhound buses either. This is not a second amendment issue anymore than the right to bear nuclear arms.

Where are all of the Taxbaggers and Norquest?

 

What Are Mandatory Minimums?
Mandatory minimum sentencing laws require harsh, automatic prison terms for those convicted of certain federal and state crimes. These inflexible, "one-size-fits-all" sentencing laws are popular with Congress and state lawmakers because they seem like a quick fix solution for crime. But mandatory minimums undermine justice by preventing judges from fitting the punishment to the individual and the seriousness of their offense. Because of mandatory sentencing laws, the population of federal and state prisons has soared, resulting in exhorbitant costs to taxpayers and excessively long prison sentences for too many people in the United States.

National Rifle Association and mandatory minimum sentencing

Some people don't know that the National Rifle Association had a large part in causing the huge increase in the U.S. incarceration rate. The NRA strongly lobbied state-by-state for mandatory minimum sentences (also known as "Truth in Sentencing"), and "Two and Three Strikes" laws. Mandatory-minimum sentences are the root cause of the astronomical US incarceration rate according to a New York Times article. The majority of people incarcerated in the U.S. are in prison or jail due to drug-related offenses, crimes to get money for drugs, or drug-related parole or probation violations. For more info see National Rifle Association and mandatory minimum sentencing.



More cops, more guns, more jails!

Whatever good the NRA has done is far outweighed by its part in creating an incarceration nation. See Portalrug war charts and maps. See Wikipedia: Mandatory minimum sentencing, and Two and Three Strikes laws. On the day of the Mayan apocalypse, Dec. 21, 2012, the NRA marched in: "LaPierre announced that former Rep. Asa Hutchinson [ex-DEA chief], R-Ark., will lead an NRA program that will develop a model security plan for schools that relies on armed volunteers." Many of them trained and indoctrinated by the NRA. NRA Press Conference: Wayne LaPierre Calls For Armed Police Officers At Every School. Huffington Post, Dec. 21, 2012.

History, quotes, sources.
NRA's lobbying for mandatory minimum sentences.

Dr. Mollie Fry gets 5 ******* Years! MandatoryMinimums

Lynching Charlie Lynch
After numerous delays and even a request for guidance from the new Obama administration on June 11, 2009 Judge George Wu sentenced Lynch to one year and one day in Federal Prison. The government was seeking a five year mandatory sentence but the Judge applied the 'safety valve' and gave Lynch a sentence below the mandatory minimums.

Court Upholds 10-year Term in Eddy Lepp Case
Eddy Lepp is a Vietnam War Veteran, Rastafarian Minister and Medical Marijuana farmer who was growing marijuana for patients under California State Law. He was raided and arrested in 2004 and is currently serving a 10-year sentence. U.S. District Court Judge Marilyn Patel threw the book at California medipot grower Eddy Lepp, who received the federal mandatory-minimum sentence for cultivating more than 1,000 plants.

ALEC the Koch Brothers Led CABAL
Efforts to Rewrite Americans' Rights; Changes that Imprison More People for Longer and Make More Money

C.C.A. Used in Drug Sweeps of Public School Students in Arizona

Gun Control Debate:
Newtown School Board Agrees With NRA,
Seeks Armed Guards in Schools

The Police State Cometh by Rep.Ron Paul
The emotional frenzy surrounding the war on drugs has allowed Federal police powers to escalate rapidly into the areas of financial privacy, gun ownership, border controls and virtually all other aspects of law enforcement. Many see this trend as dangerous to our liberties while doing little or nothing to solve the problems of violence, gang wars, deterioration of the inner cities or the decline of the public educational system.

Got SqWAT?
POLICING FOR PROFIT
Forfeiture $quads

 

Yet pistols are, by far, the #1 killer when it comes to guns in this country. They were also the weapon used in the deadliest school/mass shooting in the US. Why aren't you calling for a ban on them as well? I mean, if you were really serious about stopping this sort of violence, why not go after the weapon of choice?

For me, this is very much a 2nd Amendment issue and the banning of so-called "assault weapons" essentially neuters its intent.

 

DDC, you're the troll!!! Gun control doesn't work, and semi-automatic assualt rifles are not near WMD, they just enable people to fight off groups of people.

A 14 year old boy alone with his 12 year old sister, protect himself from a group of burgerlers with an assault rifle!!! Meanwhile, bad guys buy fully automatic guns from the black market either way.

I'm from NY, and we have many many gun laws being a blue state; But NY is still plagued with gun violence-- why? CRIMINALS don't give a fuck about the LAWS!!!

 

You realize Ddc calls people troll whenever he feels butt-hurt and lacks the mental capacity to retaliate with on-topic facts

 

Do you know your lies can be seen by those you think are too stupid to look? You post the most ridiculous crap and expect no one to check up on it? Thats borderline retarded. I call trolls, trolls when it fits. When they become stalkers I turn them in to the Justice Dept. Like yours. You think your ISP is invisible? Like a fingerprint punk, Simple. Trolls leave their unsubstantiated dribble and ad hominem when they have nothing else to say. I haven't seen much out of you except denial and accusations. A punk. Nothing different than those getting minimum wage posting diversions. You suck up to all the NRA profiteers you want. People can read the post or pass them by. Only dirtbags think they have some say in the matter. Believe me, you don't. Your little pissing contests have absolutely no bearing on what I post or what I choose not to post. Go play with your toys punk. Your masters calling. You bore me.

 

This thread is about the NRA selling guns and private Koch prisons, Diverting attention to gossip about pistols is obvious. Bring refs, your word is losing value repeating this nonsense. Pistols are guns protected by the 2nd amendment. Pistols hold a half a dozen rounds. Not used for mass assaults. Your diversions only prove you can't be trusted to state reality. The NY ban doesn't eliminate guns, just weapons capable of mass destruction as I said and as you avoid. I don't think you're a troll just confusing the issue so why not be straight up about it? Pistols may kill more and they should be registered and have some accountability when abused. But even that is too threatening to the NRA profits. I'm only posting corporatism here. Showing the NRA is a business of selling guns and a lobby for the gun industry. You protect them at the expense of kids getting blown away by the little dick people needing big guns.

Virginia Tech and Colombine had armed guards. No help. Large round clips were used making them assault weapons. I think you know that and still you continue to portray false allegations blaming normal pistols. Assault weapons can be many shapes and sizes. Assault rifles are military weapons and banned for general use. Semi automatic should be in the same category and that is the gist of the post. The private prisons and private cops the NRA lobbies for are for profit, nothing else. When most incarcerated are non violent drug offenses making Koch and CSA profits. That is corporatism. Nothing to do with you making bang noises and the trolls must think you're too ignorant to read the post and the reason for posting it. Nothing to do with you having assault weapons if you can show you are capable of handling them and storing them. Unlike the mother of the kid shooting the little kids. As repeated, hiding from the argument as the NRA does only shows cowardice. As also stated, many jobs require training and competency tests and it doesn't take away guns only assures people i know how to use them properly. That used to be a standard for gun owners. Now the goal is to sell guns. Most of the bombs in the wars were dropped by airplanes so you think we should outlaw flying? At least wanting pistols on the banned list seems to indicate that. I just want assault weapons kept from the untrained kids and their untrained parents. But that isn't what the post is about.

As I said and as you avoid reading, they typically hold 6 rounds in a revolver, not enough to wipe out 20 kids. Reloading gives authorities time to take them out. 100 and 30 round clips don't. It doesn't matter where the clips are, pistol or rifles or shotguns. Limit the numbers and you limit the casualties. None of the massacres were with hunting weapons, all were geared up for military use. Including the homemade bombs. Once again, the original post, pre-troll hissy fits was about the NRA renting cops and selling more guns and private prison space. Not outlawing guns. Or outlawing weapons of mass destruction, only regulating them the same as driving a car or building a house. Codes and standards. Don't be afraid. They won't hurt you unless you sell them to kids at flea markets.

I'm not trying to stop anyone from playing cowboy as long as they do it with cowboy guns and not military weapons. You keep trying to divert attention from why this post was made to your same silly fabrication and like the trolls try to label me with what anyone can see isn't the case. I don't want a ban on assault weapons of mass destruction. Just want to show the NRA serve international corporations not gunuts.

As I said military weapons aren't the rights of rednecks or the second amendment anymore than grenades or nukes. Get over it. If you are qualified then I suggest the Military sell them and use them on the grounds established for that purpose. If you want them at home for kids to get then too bad. The second amendment was blackmail from Virginia threatening to not sign the Declaration unless the slave owners had weapons in case of a slave revolt. As I've shown militias were people mustered to assist the government in taking down tax rebellions and not to protect the people from government oppression. What is more oppressing than private prisons? But for argument I'll give you the second as your way of justifying guns, just not weapons on the open market such as by walmartians. Pistols with 30 round clips are not guns anymore, they have one purpose and that is to kill humans. Personally I find that disgusting to want to own one, but that is your choice.

The NRA is not a political party. TH,com
It may comes as a surprise to Wayne LaPierre, but the NRA is not a political party. Apparently no one's informed him of that, as he'll be delivering the gun-group's official response to the State of The Union tonight, on TheSportsmanChannel.com. Talking Points Memo is reporting that LaPierre will respond to the President's Tuesday night speech from the annual convention of the National Wild Turkey Federation.

The news of LaPierre's speech was released in conjunction with an op-ed he published on The Daily Caller. The op-ed, which the Think Progress Blog called a “bizarre, paranoid screed,” outlines some strange, unlikely reasons why LaPeirre thinks every American should own a gun. The fear-mongering gun advocate listed reasons ranging from violent Latino gangs - to the end of police protection - to the complete collapse of civilization. Apparently, Wayne LaPierre is very afraid, and he wants you to be to.

In his column, he wrote, “Hurricanes. Tornadoes. Riots. Terrorists. Gangs. Lone criminals. These are the perils we are sure to face – not just maybe. It's not paranoia to buy a gun. It's survival.” Thankfully, the NRA has lost the power it once knew, and voters are now less inclined to support a candidate because they're backed by the organization.

In his address Tuesday night, Obama said gun violence victims deserve a vote. Wayne LaPierre and the NRA deserve to fade into obscurity, where they belong.

Just a bunch of GOPervert slaves in love with their masters.
They call that a concubine. I call them Kochroaches...

Tell the NRA: ENOUGH!
NRA Slavery: Another Fine Product Still Made in the USA!
OUR 'WELL REGULATED' MILITIA?
ALEC, the Koch Brothers Led CABAL
NRA History of Mandatory Minimums

NRA = Not Relevant Anymore? | The Iowa Republican

Tawawa House, where wealthy Southern slaveholders would take their slave mistresses for open-air "vacations."

God’s thoughts on the morality of owning people as property – don’t covet your neighbor’s slaves. Well, it’s clear: God has standards. At best, God has an issue with other people owning Jews as slaves, not a problem with slavery in general.

Leviticus 25:44-46 (NRSV)
As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you, and from their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness.

Slave Labor - The "new" Debtor's Prison concept -
ALEC and KOCH Industries
Many over the past few months have said more than once, "Next they'll be trying to bring back Debtor's Prisons." Well as I answered then, many states have done just that due to lobbying by financial, investing and loan companies and corporations.

Why is there debtor's prison, and not bankster's prison?
You thought debtors prison was just for the Victorians and slave states like Dhubai? Think again:

In jail for being in debt
You committed no crime, but an officer is knocking on your door. More Minnesotans are surprised to find themselves being locked up over debts.

Alabama Judge Rebukes Private Correctional Company For Running ‘Debtors Prison’
I can’t believe that in these economic times for middle class and low income workers, that this exists at all. Are we in France during the 16th century as in… Les Misrables?

Why is there debtor's prison, and not bankster's prison?

Exposing the Koch brothers

Report: Debtor Prisons on the Rise
New reports by the ACLU and the Brennan Center for Justice have found a sharp rise in debtor prisons across the country. Poor defendants are being jailed for failing to pay legal debts. In Ohio, a man named Howard Webb, who earns $7 an hour as a dishwasher, has served two stints in jail totaling over 300 days for being unable to pay nearly $3,000 in fines and costs from various criminal and traffic cases. In Michigan, a twenty-five-year-old single mother named Kawana Young has been jailed five times for being unable to afford to pay a few minor traffic tickets. Eric Balaban of the ACLU said, "Incarcerating people simply because they cannot afford to pay their legal debts is not only unconstitutional but also has a devastating impact upon men and women, whose only crime is that they are poor."

The Religious Right's Ralph Reed rides again

Koch-Affiliated Group Campaigns To Make Wind Tax Credit
‘So Toxic’ Republicans Won’t Back It

Private prison industry helped draft AZ immigration law
October 29, 2010
A private corrections company helped write and lobbied hard for a draconian bill that'll help fill their cells. Corporations and interest groups like R.J. Reynolds, ExxonMobil, the NRA, and the Corrections Corporation of America host a regular conference for state legislators in DC. At last December's conference, the Corrections Corporation of America and Arizona state Senator Russell Pearce drafted the bill that eventually became the Arizona law.

The Hidden History of ALEC and Prison Labor
The breaded chicken patty your child bites into at school may have been made by a worker earning twenty cents an hour, not in a faraway country, but by a member of an invisible American workforce: prisoners.

Louisiana Leading Way in Prison Privatization, Rest of U.S. Catching Up

The Good News About Prison Rape
by: From the Trenches
The Department of Justice finally addresses an epidemic of sexual abuse.

ALEC - Centralized Conservative Legislative Clearinghouse
ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, does just that. Funded by the likes of the Koch brothers, Exxon Mobil and PhRMA, a trade association for the pharmaceutical industry, legislators are paid to come to ALEC meetings, where they are wined, dined, and handed "model" legislation to make into law in their state.

Koch Brothers, ALEC and Their Corporate Allies Plan to Privatize Government

Brownskins and greenbacks: ALEC, the for-profit prison industry and Arizona’s SB 1070
By Beau Hodai, June, 2010

Activists Question Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio Election over Uncounted Ballots in Maricopa County
Activists in Arizona are challenging the re-election of controversial sheriff Joe Arpaio, citing a large amount of uncounted ballots. Arpaio has faced widespread accusations of discrimination and civil rights abuses against Latinos as well as financial misconduct. Election officials in Maricopa County have acknowledged some 415,000 early and provisional ballots remain uncounted, a total that could wipe out Arpaio’s election victory of 88,000 votes. Activists have been holding vigils outside the Maricopa County Recorder’s Office, demanding that the votes be counted and alleging Election Day irregularities.



Sheriff Arpaio’s Armed Volunteer Posse Coming Soon to Maricopa Schools

How Private Prison Corporations Hope Arizona’s SB1070 Will Lead to Internment Camps for Illegals

Sheriff Joe Arpaio doubles down on the "extremist" charge



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Kyrsten Sinema and the private prison industry lobbyists, a marriage made in heaven


Sinema will do anything for that coveted congressional seat

 

Then all laws should be abolished since they only serve the prison industry? Bans and regulations are two different things. Lame as your example. If kids are in need of protection, call 911. If the 14 year old doesn't spook and shoot his sister, then he or she can use guns, not assault weapons of mass destruction. Criminals get guns because of lack of enforcement on the laws already on the books. Lazy cops are not justified reasons for any military device. Including assault weapons. The black market will be what it is and if cops weren't wasting their time chasing stoners they might have time to remove guns. If guns were registered and tracked then less would be on the streets. Your excusing ineptness with more ineptness is as silly as the troll spewdom. Again this post is not about banning your popguns, its about the NRA profits on caging growers along with the Koch and ALEC. Multinational corporations with no allegiance to the US or its citizens. So again your diversions only serve to show others what trolls do.

 

Stop too much gun deaths needlessly and stop all hateful gun violence today!!

 

Well that was insightful

 

Yes stop gun violence!! Also stop cancer & Aids!! This is the New American revolution! Shouting out what would be done in a perfect world!!!



STOP JUSTIN BEIBER!!!

 

You don't know much about guns, do you?

It's not a "clip". It's a magazine.

Most mass shootings (which are on the decline) were perpetrated with handguns using standard capacity magazines. Of the roughly 11k gun deaths, only a couple hundred were caused by rifles - of any kind (not just scary military looking kinds).

Google FBI crime statistics.

There is no such thing as an "assault rifle". There are rifles. And there are assaults. The term originated with Hitler's PR team and is now used by the media and the ignorant to describe automatic weapons.

The dreaded AR15 is not an automatic weapon. It COSMETICALLY looks like the military's m16 but, functionally is quite different.

More people are killed every year from fists and feet than guns. (again, FBI stats). Waaaaay more people die from automobiles. Do you call those "assault cars"?

 

Thomas Jefferson never said the second sentence. According to monticello.org

 

thread is crazy

anti-gun folks

shut the fuck up

police show up after the crime. remember that

shut the fuck up