A Series of DPT smokeable freebase pyroassays

Last week involved a lot of projects including a multi-step chemistry and cleanup project to convert 1/2 gram of DPT HCl into smokeable DPT freebase. I was skeptical, but this was well worth the effort!

I ran the chemistry (dissolved with dilute ammonia & pulled with toluene) then BEFORE evaporating, added 1/2 gram of harmalas (freebase) and 1/2 gram of changa herbs (just the herbs). Then cleaned up by re-dissolving (except for herbal components) the mess into acetone and evaporating (this helps to remove ALL the toluene). Final yield was 1 1/4 grams. Lost 1/4 gram of something somewhere. Saved all components for future pulls.

In the past 24 hours, there have been 3 bioassays of this weak DPT harmala changa. 40 mgs last night without pre-dosing on harmalas. Reminded me very much of the insulffation of 50 mgs but was much more physically comfortable - no purge and no clogged nostrils. Also, the peak was more like 10 mins than 40. Completely baseline after 2 hours.

Then today, 65 mgs AFTER predosing heavily on harmalas. Reminded me of last night plus something else, a "flash" of something I can't quite name. Then 30 mins later 100 mgs. Three hits. Here's what I wrote right after:

Wow. Amazing. It is instantaneous, like between NN and 5-meo.* It hits with a momentary tryptamine signaure/body load, then there is a FLASH and an infinite moment of EXTREME lucidity/clarity descends.* I almost doubted that it worked I was so far gone at this point.* Then the trip really begins.* Blew Isis (my cat) right out of my lap.**

On the flash I've never felt anything like it.* It was very pure.* Very without like subjectivity, limitations, enculturement.* Without language or math.* It truly just WAS/IS.

Lots of distortions and hints but still no real overt visuals. A sense of the yellow/white light field of 5-meo.

Main, peak effects seem 5-10 mintes, about 7 this time. Getting continuing strong effects 20 mins. in.

During peak was somewhat disconnected and dissolved but simultaneously very much aware of a fast, stressed heartbeat and unhappy lungs.

20-25 mins: God, again like last night, vision for screen going black and white except for reds. Very weird. Does not last long.

Waves with harmalas. Strong one at about 25-30, back in for 5-10 mins.

Really starting to come back to self after the 1 hour mark but I'm at 1 hour 20 mins now and still feel no motivation to get up. Feel the heaviness of the trance trying to gently pull me down.

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I'm at 1 hour 45 mins now and everything feels calm, lungs feel much better, though I'm still tripping a bit. Hope to try again at 150 mgs later tonight and if my lungs can take it hope to combine with N,N, DMT.

I will report updates as my pyroassay data become available.

Peace, Love & Harm Reduction

 

Very cool, so you found the smoked DPT less vibrational than insufflated? How does the "gentleness" compare with smoked NN? Also I am a little worried at the thought of you mixing the two. Start low please <3 no more FBI flips.

 

I'd say it was equi-vibrational with eyes open but much calmer with eyes closed. Very weird, I know. Hella intense Kundalini energy. Inexperienced user would fear seizure.

There is no "gentleness" per se here other than the usual, familiar, "soul is now home" tryptamine signature. But, after peak effects, (before my second big wave) there was a wonderful melty feeling of warmth. Like floating on a cushion of pure softness and warmth about 6 inches above the ground.

I appreciate your concerns and am sure they are well founded, but I always start low and I am NOT at all considering mixing breakthough doses of each. I do understand the concept of synergy and will proceed with extreme caution along these lines. I am doing this sitting up, with purge bucket and a sitter who knows the DMT territory as well as CPR on hand.

 

Interesting experiments spiceycat I did a 50mgs + 50mgs at the 1/2 hr mark via injection with dpt one night and your reports reminds me of that trip in particular quite a bit. Kind of a hint of 5-me0 dmt but fairly unique. Distortions but nothing that particularly translates well into language necessarily. I remember that trip very layered and 'shadowy' that's about all I can verbalize. I have seen 'the light' on dpt as well.

 

This is definitely interesting - there aren't too many reports about smoking DPT around, at least not in comparison to snorting DPT. Too bad the duration seems to be so much shorter, though.

I'm interested in hearing how the higher dosage trials go.

 

You rule Spicey Cat. Careful with the FBI flips. Seriously, I know it's sad what happened to the guy, but I think FBI flip is the funniest name for a drug combo ever. It's just so perfect. Anyways, very interesting thread Spicey, thanks for posting.

 

very interesting, spicey. i have no desire to try DPT, which is interesting because i bought a gram that i never recieved. i've had DMT for months and haven't tried it, so i know i'd just sit on DPT forever. i hate to snort things, so i have basically ruled that out. i considered trying to vape the HCl but read that it may not work...so yes, very interesting. the stressed heart worries me, just reading about it, and kinda just puts the icing on the cake of me not wanted to try DPT. my harm reduction side would be weary of dosing over and over again in the same day.
good to see you around the forums again, lady

 

Well, I tried 150 mgs of the weak changa and got similar effects to the previous 2 trips (65 then 100 mgs). Still no strong visuals and definately no breakthrough. Taking a week or two off before trying again to extinguish all tolerance effects then will load 250 mgs of the weak changa. REMEMBER there's really no way that my actual DPT doses could be more than 1/3 of the mgs of weak changa, so in this planned case it would be about 83 mgs max.

I have NOT mixed with DMT yet because I have not yet achieved truly profound effects with the DPT alone.

But, seriously folks. I appreciate your warnings on what you call "FBI flip", but here's my take on the situation: I am going to be 43 in a few months, not 19. I will never start out with 200 mgs DPT then try to chase with a breakthrough dose of DMT. I prepare carefully with meditation, journaling and sobriety. I have a sober sitter who is experienced, medically savvy and stronger than me. My freakouts involve sitting quietly while shaking and crying after ego-death. I don't even stand up.

I mean, seriously, I know that kid disappeared from the forum and was reported to be in trouble with feds and/or spending 6 weeks institutionalized, but LOOK closely at that. Something stinks. I have never read such a hyperbolic, hystrionic, melodramatic tale that was so adamant about being the truth, and yet felt like lies throughout. 1.) The heroic dose. Ridiculous bragging. 2.) The mention of FBI involvement with the computer. Give me a fucking break. This is either a lie or this xdynamnickid and his drunken buddies (or whatever, I'm sure some other substances were involved) were SO stupid, so public in advertising their activities that they brought this down on themselves. 3.) Psychedelics can precipitate a psychotic break (or defer it) for someone who is pre-disposed. That is, it's gonna happen folks, but mega dosing on crazy doses of new combinations can certainly bring it on a few weeks or months early. 4.) His "friend" coming on and saying over and over again, it's true and if you don't believe me, call this number, skype me etc. Seriously, for anyone who believed all this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in investing in.

More updates on the pyroassays as they become available. . . .

 

the whole thing is fishy, but i believe it was supposedly at his house with his sober wife and sleeping children. he was more like 23? than 19, which although is a significant difference, as i matured quite a bit in those years, i'm sure still looks like a "kid" to you.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you, just a friendly reminder to be careful. I realize you are older, but one thing I've learned, especially in this last year, that age often contains little insight into a person's character. I've seen too many humans of all ages act like petulant, ornery, little children to really put much value in the age argument. That being said, I understand you are much more prepared and responsible about your psych use than he ever was, so I know the warning was pretty unnecessary, I just felt compelled to mention it.

Also, I believe the FBI rumors came about when his "buddy" said the cops found lab equipment along with drugs at his house. I can see this happening: the cops get a call about a madman raving in the streets shouting that he killed his family, they show up and see all this lab equipment and find all these psychedelics and they think," hey! this guy may be big time, we may have huge drug bust on our hands!" But I'm not here to debate whether it actually happened, I just think it sounds more plausible than you seem to think. I agree though, something definitely stinks, but I'm not sure if it's because the story is false or because it is true.

 

I really enjoyed reading this! I haven't ever gotten to convert my DPT, so I've never smoked it.. only insufflated it. But oh, do I know what you mean about that divine clarity. There is a huge reason that DPT is one of my favorite tryptamines! Thank you for sharing this... I hope to try this ROA with this substance soon.

^I have a trip report actually, where I did precisely that (smoked DMT on top of DPT) and results were nothing short of wonderful. In fact, one of you two may have even commented it already.. I know that Mr Writer commented on one of my TRs.. but eh, too lazy to check before posting.. anyway, here it is!:

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=469120

 

I hope SpiceyCat is doing ok, I know I'm not the only one who misses her around here. Sending good vibes :grouphug:

 

Ahh same here- sending good vibes too!! Does she just not come on here nowadays? I actually sent her a message, reaching out to a sister DMT witch I guess . Guess she might not see it anytime soon?!

 

Whadya mean too bad? short duration on DPT could be a benefit. If DPT were more like DMT in duration, more people would probably use it. I mean the insufflated experience was intense, but you're not always looking for such a long last ting trip

 

Yeah hmm... I personally *love* that DPT lasts so long, yet can still be on the same level of intensity as DMT... but to each their own.